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Post by weston2 on May 21, 2024 7:04:23 GMT -5
I answered it five years plus four days ago ... The question I asked was...are you now classifying them as employees since you used the word "salaries"? If so, are they employees of the school or the collective? Is their tuition and meals then a taxable benefit ... what about clothing and shoes provided by the school? Peel the onion back. Tax the new 1%. Next thing you know, they'll move based on no tax states.😁 Have fun with the Philly wage tax. Early start with their Social Security, we need their support😁. What a path this mess is creating. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 21, 2024 7:48:08 GMT -5
Ok, we're veering into move threads to the off topic board territory. Take the taxes talk elsewhere thanks.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 21, 2024 12:16:44 GMT -5
Continued deflection. Nice. Amazes me how you can't answer a simple question. Ask me a one sentence question and I promise you I answer it. Unless it’s “does X getting paid by Y somehow make them an employee of Z” which I kinda feel like I did? Since you used the word "salaries", is your stance now that these student athletes are now employees getting salaries, essentially classifying them as professional athletes? |
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Post by MisterD on May 21, 2024 13:40:10 GMT -5
No, because they're technically not being paid to play basketball. Salary might be the wrong word, but whatever you'd call revenue derived from like Cameo or something like that is what I'd consider this to be analogous to. The payment is because you're a celebrity/athlete, but indirectly.
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 21, 2024 18:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 21, 2024 18:50:50 GMT -5
That's a 3 star recruit that I'd take...
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 22, 2024 9:10:15 GMT -5
No, because they're technically not being paid to play basketball. Salary might be the wrong word, but whatever you'd call revenue derived from like Cameo or something like that is what I'd consider this to be analogous to. The payment is because you're a celebrity/athlete, but indirectly. Fair enough. But...that begs the question (asked in the thread Joe started on this topic) - what are the players doing outside of playing basketball to get these collective deals. What's Brickus' $350K for exactly other than playing basketball? I know NIL was setup to allow players to profut from their name, image, and likeness - like getting a piece of their names on jerseys and stuff - but I'm doubting Villanova's bookstore is stocking up to sell a ton of Brickus jerseys. |
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 9:24:38 GMT -5
To carry on the Cameo analogy ... they're receiving money to perform, in this case on the basketball court for the contributors' program. Its not that they aren't being (essentially) paid to play basketball, its that its indirect payments. A group of Xs want to see Y play for Z.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 22, 2024 9:30:50 GMT -5
I wonder what happens to the money targeted for individuals when they leave. For example, there was a request posted on here to give to La Salle's collective, and talk of targeting funds for Brickus or Brantley to keep them. When they jump, I'm assuming the collective doesn't refund that. Caveat emptor
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 9:59:59 GMT -5
I'd assume you're right because it wouldn't be possible to operate on pledges versus cash in hand. I assume its an earmark that goes into a general fund if not used?
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Post by calsufan on May 22, 2024 10:27:09 GMT -5
I think this is fake news. Everyone knows that Robert Redford is too old to play college basketball. |
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Post by explorer88 on May 22, 2024 10:29:07 GMT -5
I think this is fake news. Everyone knows that Robert Redford is too old to play college basketball.  |
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Post by jb71 on May 23, 2024 10:23:52 GMT -5
I think this is fake news. Everyone knows that Robert Redford is too old to play college basketball. Clearly it was a failed Sting |
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Post by 23won on May 24, 2024 5:01:01 GMT -5
If we can add a serviceable backup big I think we can move up in the A10 standings
We did lose 3 starters (2 guard scorers and a big) but we added 2 quality guard transfers, a highly rated frosh guard, a high quality forward and a Big 10 big. I think that nets out positive but seeing will be believing
I haven’t followed each A10 team closely on portal changes but I think most won’t have a net positive roster change.
This my prediction we move up. Add a multiplier effect with Dunph coaching them up and there is a realistic 5-7 finish that is possible.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 24, 2024 6:55:14 GMT -5
Counterpoint to that. We had 2 Big 12 and a Big East player and finished under 500 and in the PIG.
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Post by weston2 on May 24, 2024 7:46:21 GMT -5
Counterpoint to that. We had 2 Big 12 and a Big East player and finished under 500 and in the PIG. I guess this gives a new meaning to coaching players up. See ya later.😁 Next! |
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 8:29:35 GMT -5
Counterpoint to that. We had 2 Big 12 and a Big East player and finished under 500 and in the PIG. that's the whole unknown with the portal. there are so many kids jumping up 1 or 2 levels, it's hard to predict how they'll do. there are a lot of them moving up to power 5 schools that really aren't a fit for that level. as far as our guys who are moving up a level, imo they're all going to have their challenges. i think jhamir could do very well in the big east, but with nova's current roster and their coaching deficiencies, he's going to have an awful lot on his plate. unless dixon comes back and they end up landing a stud or two from the portal, that team is going to struggle, and even if dixon returns and they add a couple more good players, will they be put in a position to win by their coaching staff. khalil will be playing with an entirely new roster, at least 7 portal/juco transfers in as of now and only 3 guys returning who combined for 20 pts and 5 rbds per game for a 12-20 team. as of now, there's only one player over 6'8" on next year's roster. the good news is, their new coach has done very well rebuilding western kentucky and texas a&m-corpus christie over the last few years so maybe khalil can play a nice part in turning things around there. for rokas' sake, i hope ucf has a good big man coach. as of now, he's the only true low post player on their roster. he's got the tools to be solid, even in the big 12, but for that to happen, he has to significantly improve his ability to catch the ball, develop a mean streak and stay out of foul trouble. i don't want to be too critical, but i think he will struggle at the b12 level, at least this coming season. he really would have been better off staying put or if he wanted out that bad, going to a school at the a10 level or lower but that's water under the bridge. i hope he proves me wrong. being a homer, i think the chances that our newcomers can do well are pretty good. regarding demetrius, i understood why he took the penn st offer but i always thought that the a10 was the perfect level for him. when healthy, jhalil played well for temple. moving from the aac to the a10 is basically a lateral move. per his interview with aaron bracy, he's fine physically. eric was supposedly the youngest player in d1 basketball last year, and was able to average double figures and lead his team in assists as a freshman. put up good numbers against the better teams that liu faced last season. not saying he's going to step right in and replace jhamir or khalil's numbers, but he's athletic and talented enough to be a good a10 guard. corey was also a nice fit for this team. pass-first point guard, 2/1 assist/turnover ratio, 35% from three, can score when he needs to and a veteran presence. he should be fine playing at the a10 level. and then there is deuce. i know people say don't expect too much from a freshman but he's one of the better commits la salle has had in a long time. he's definitely an a10-level player and maybe higher. i predict he will have an immediate impact. it also doesn't hurt that he won't be relied on to put up big numbers right out of the gate. i'm excited to see what all of these guys can do. now it's imperative for the staff to find another competent low post guy. like 23 said, if they do that, this team could be better than people think. last year's biggest problem was not having someone to help out rokas. they can't go through another season using ryan as the backup center. ryan can help this team much more playing as a combo forward instead of killing himself down low going against guys with 3-4-5 inches and 30 lbs on him. he did a fine job but it's not fair to him and will only hurt the team if he's asked to do it again. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 24, 2024 8:52:26 GMT -5
No, because they're technically not being paid to play basketball. Salary might be the wrong word, but whatever you'd call revenue derived from like Cameo or something like that is what I'd consider this to be analogous to. The payment is because you're a celebrity/athlete, but indirectly. I guess the NCAA settlement changes this. In the power conferences, they will now be professional athletes, paid by the schools and conferences. Schools like La Salle will still have "amateurs", paid by the collective. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jun 18, 2024 8:14:17 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 19, 2024 14:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 19, 2024 16:23:17 GMT -5
Not long enough to worry about paywall.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Aug 11, 2024 9:22:10 GMT -5
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Sept 10, 2024 17:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Sept 10, 2024 19:45:26 GMT -5
Really did not enjoy seeing the phrase “Villanova G Jhamir Brickus”.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Sept 12, 2024 10:50:13 GMT -5
Really did not enjoy seeing the phrase “Villanova G Jhamir Brickus”. I keep reminding myself he gave La Salle 4 good years....... If only it wasn't Nova, makes it a hard swallow. |
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Post by hoopsguest on Sept 12, 2024 19:57:11 GMT -5
Really did not enjoy seeing the phrase “Villanova G Jhamir Brickus”. I keep reminding myself he gave La Salle 4 good years....... If only it wasn't Nova, makes it a hard swallow. We didn’t play Nova last year and might not this year. Plus Ash Howard recruited him to La Salle so he is joining his old head coach. Plus the NIL. Doesn’t make it a hard swallow for me at all. Maybe because I don’t share the vitriol for Villanova like some do. Lappas was insufferable so when he was there yeah I didn’t like them at all |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Sept 13, 2024 8:15:07 GMT -5
I keep reminding myself he gave La Salle 4 good years....... If only it wasn't Nova, makes it a hard swallow. We didn’t play Nova last year and might not this year. Plus Ash Howard recruited him to La Salle so he is joining his old head coach. Plus the NIL. Doesn’t make it a hard swallow for me at all. Maybe because I don’t share the vitriol for Villanova like some do. Lappas was insufferable so when he was there yeah I didn’t like them at all I'll make up for your lack of vitriol. Fuck Nova. I wish them a half decade of NITs. |
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Post by calsufan on Sept 13, 2024 13:59:08 GMT -5
We didn’t play Nova last year and might not this year. Plus Ash Howard recruited him to La Salle so he is joining his old head coach. Plus the NIL. Doesn’t make it a hard swallow for me at all. Maybe because I don’t share the vitriol for Villanova like some do. Lappas was insufferable so when he was there yeah I didn’t like them at all I'll make up for your lack of vitriol. Fuck Nova. I wish them a half decade of NITs. You're being way too kind. Don't be a pansy. |
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