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Post by las71 on May 18, 2024 7:35:03 GMT -5
I'm somewhat surprised that he's going to a power conference but happy for him. He was a great representative for our school and nobody played harder. As Brickus said at one of the press conferences: "he's a dawg." Good luck Khalil!
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 18, 2024 8:27:01 GMT -5
Del had it. Wonder what the package was.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 18, 2024 9:25:29 GMT -5
Don't know if Brantley got the bag or not. Hopefully, it's not a Nickelberry situation where he's playing 8 minutes a night. Now it's time to focus on 20th & Olney. Can we win 18-20 games?
Are we going to be in 14-16 mud? It must be how a Russian factory worker felt like in the 80s.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 18, 2024 9:57:20 GMT -5
Congratulations to everyone whose targeted NIL contributions bought us an 11th place finish in the A10 and players moving to other teams. I guess it is time to embrace our place in college basketball as the farm system for power conferences (and Howard, and Bryant, and UMass Lowell, and Delaware).
Let's look forward to 1...maybe 2 years of Deuce Jones.
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Post by gymrat67 on May 18, 2024 11:27:15 GMT -5
Inside the Oklahoma State Cowboys $84 Million Basketball Facility
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 18, 2024 12:29:18 GMT -5
You know, I said that we don't want to go to war with T Boone Pickens... turns out we did and he drew 1st blood.
Let's schedule a game with the pokes.
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Post by 23won on May 18, 2024 13:12:15 GMT -5
Looking at that $84 million video confirms we have all the wrong priorities with higher ed OkS had a .222 conference win percent last year and haven't made the tourney the last 3 years. Probablu a better choice for KB than Wazzu but ...
what a lousy ROI on that $84 million arena remodel
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Post by victoriouslasalle on May 18, 2024 13:54:58 GMT -5
Congratulations to everyone whose targeted NIL contributions bought us an 11th place finish in the A10 and players moving to other teams. I guess it is time to embrace our place in college basketball as the farm system for power conference (and Howard, and Bryant, and UMass Lowell, and Delaware). Let's look forward to 1...maybe 2 yesrs of Duece Jones. You nail it here. I would love to think you are incorrect, hyperbolic, but it seems realistically and painfully spot on. I search and search for some sort of silver lining or a way to imagine a path for a team like La Salle to possibly aspire to greater success in this NIL basketball world. As if succeeding was not already daunting year after year. But now it just seems absurdly impossible. This a a radically changed basketball environment from say 5 years ago. How can you build a team when the talent you may find and develop can actually be gone next season. The greater the basketball talent emerges of your recruited athlete the sooner they are likely out the door because they can be paid more elsewhere.
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Post by kinesiology on May 18, 2024 14:52:56 GMT -5
You have to hope that at some point the NCAA will step in and make some adjustments. Other than the kids getting paid, who is happy about the current setup?
Restore the required sit out year on a parallel transfer and enforce the 5 years to use your eligibility rule. That would restore some order.
They have to do something.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 18, 2024 15:37:31 GMT -5
who is happy about the current setup? All of the big conferences with their football teams.
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Post by kinesiology on May 18, 2024 16:12:47 GMT -5
who is happy about the current setup? All of the big conferences with their football teams. That’s not what James Franklin says.
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Post by crayzeeguy on May 18, 2024 16:33:46 GMT -5
You have to hope that at some point the NCAA will step in and make some adjustments. Other than the kids getting paid, who is happy about the current setup? Restore the required sit out year on a parallel transfer and enforce the 5 years to use your eligibility rule. That would restore some order. They have to do something. The NCAA may not exist in the same form in a few years. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some of these Power 5 conferences go their own way.
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Post by lasallejohn on May 18, 2024 16:46:42 GMT -5
Need some young blood on this board to combat the people who whinge on this board.
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Post by jb71 on May 18, 2024 16:51:34 GMT -5
Need some young blood on this board to combat the people who whinge on this board. There's nothing better than aged Winers....😁
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Post by victoriouslasalle on May 19, 2024 8:51:29 GMT -5
Need some young blood on this board to combat the people who whinge on this board. GRRR! Since they allowed the Dunk it has been all down hill,
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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on May 19, 2024 9:44:37 GMT -5
Happy that Brantley and Brickus get to enjoy amenities, and financial benefits, that La Salle couldn’t offer them while playing in higher profile conferences. They played hard for us and have been great stewards for the La Salle brand! I hope they do great!
I’m equally excited to see a new group of guards for this team and I am optimistic we can reach new heights. We know the best possible outcome our roster last year offered (we saw it) and just to witness a new team - in a nice new gym - is something I am looking forward to very much.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on May 19, 2024 12:49:02 GMT -5
Brantley has high major offers...
Big 12 is SUPAHIGHMAJAH!
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 19, 2024 13:08:13 GMT -5
Did he get the money he wanted tho
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 19, 2024 13:18:12 GMT -5
Brantley has high major offers...
Big 12 is SUPAHIGHMAJAH!
What's his bag Del? 150 200
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Post by phillyhoops4life on May 19, 2024 13:20:44 GMT -5
Did he get the money he wanted tho
Absolutely... He's in REALLY good shape!!
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Post by nealum on May 19, 2024 15:13:45 GMT -5
Del: Do you play a role in either helping NIL candidates find a new home and/or negotiating their dollars?
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Post by phillyhoops4life on May 19, 2024 16:23:06 GMT -5
Del: Do you play a role in either helping NIL candidates find a new home and/or negotiating their dollars?
I sometimes call coaches for kids... I sometimes call kids for coaches...
I always try to help any kid find a scholarship if possible... D1, D2, D3, JUCO or NAIA
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Post by nealum on May 19, 2024 18:59:04 GMT -5
We knew this. I was specifically referring to NIL and how active you were in that arena. Is NIL taking up more of your time than recruiting placement for HS seniors? Just curious. And the financial side of NIL. Do you negotiate $$$ for kids and do schools pay you for bringing them talent? I'm not talking scholarships.
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Post by 23won on May 20, 2024 4:54:00 GMT -5
My $.02 here but there’s no reason Del needs to answer those questions Nealum. It’s his business.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on May 20, 2024 6:27:02 GMT -5
I'm not an agent... Most of these kids have agents that do the "negotiating"...
Coaches will call and say "I have $200K for player X" Kids will say "school X offered me $300K"
I will relay that information... These days that the same as conveying he fact that a kid wants to play in his home state or in the A10...
That's just basic recruiting info
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 20, 2024 6:35:55 GMT -5
So agents are getting rich from these kids jumping from school to school. That's great short term for the kids jumping around, but what about the long term implications and the mental health of the kid...and the feeling of completing something you started?
It's the gold rush right now. And who got rich during the gold rush? Not many of the prospectors, but the people that sold them axes and shovels. They made money whether someone found gold or not. These kids are now the axes and shovels being sold by the agents to the highest bidder.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on May 20, 2024 8:04:20 GMT -5
So agents are getting rich from these kids jumping from school to school. That's great short term for the kids jumping around, but what about the long term implications and the mental health of the kid...and the feeling of completing something you started? It's the gold rush right now. And who got rich during the gold rush? Not many of the prospectors, but the people that sold them axes and shovels. They made money whether someone found gold or not. These kids are now the axes and shovels being sold by the agents to the highest bidder.
For many, they do not charge for dealing with NIL collectives... They do take a percentage of the direct deals with the corporations...
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 20, 2024 8:29:33 GMT -5
Why would they do that? What's their angle? Is it to build a relationship in the hopes of being their paid agent down the road? I find it hard to believe that there are a bunch of pro-bono agents running around negotiating these collective deals out of the kindness of their hearts.
Are you saying that no one took 15-20% (going rate for agents in NIL deals) off the top of Brickus' $350K? I call BS on that. Someone made $60K off the kid.
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Post by MisterD on May 20, 2024 8:53:12 GMT -5
… but what about the long term implications and the mental health of the kid...and the feeling of completing something you started? A great counterpoint to “gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars instead of zero dollars”.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 20, 2024 9:10:03 GMT -5
… but what about the long term implications and the mental health of the kid...and the feeling of completing something you started? A great counterpoint to “gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars instead of zero dollars”. You missed the point here. It isn't an either/or situation. These deals are great for the kids in the short-term, and kudos to the agents who've figured out how to milk 15-20% out of someone else's work and sell the axes in the goldrush. On Khalil's IG, Jack Clark told him to stay at La Salle. Is Jack regretting his choice to leave and now be at 3 schools in 3 years? We don't know the long-term effects on these kids from jumping around. Brantley misses a chance to graduate with the people he sat in class with, and built relationships with, for 3 years at 20th and Olney. No one is arguing against NIL deals here (for what they truly were supposed to be). But I wonder if he... and others... will regret that down the road when the money is spent? Who knows. There are countless tales of lottery winners blowing through their money and suffering mental health traumas years later. What is the long-term cost of grabbing the brass ring while the agents line their pockets?
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