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Post by 23won on Apr 10, 2021 14:40:28 GMT -5
Baptiste has not shown the go getter qualities needed to get this job done. Colleen did but failed before and after Baptiste was hired. This will be a stepping stone job for Baptiste. The BoT needs to energize and get this done and direct management to execute. It is ridiculous that they have sat on a gift for 8 years and almost run out the the clock on the gift without doing anything.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 10, 2021 16:27:46 GMT -5
Guy has less than two years under his belt. ‘Go getter?’ Get out of here
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Post by 23won on Apr 10, 2021 17:17:16 GMT -5
Stop making excuses
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 10, 2021 17:59:05 GMT -5
You’re right, surprised he didn’t show up literally with a new arena what a clown.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 10, 2021 18:10:35 GMT -5
I think it went down something like this:
Baptiste: "So I have some ideas on the facilities plan.."
Madame President: "Go on..."
Baptiste: "Well, we have that Glaser money expiring, and..."
<RING RING>
Madame President: "Hold on...I have to take this call from my...uh...friend..uh...Xavier...he...uh...lives in Ohio. Let's revisit this in the summer."
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Post by 23won on Apr 11, 2021 8:02:55 GMT -5
Baptiste not having a plan yet to use the biggest gift in MBB history is akin to a Coach not developing a plan or drawing up a play until after halftime in the biggest game of his career.
I realize you are just baiting people on this but the facts are so clear it is humorous and embarrassing for you to make the counter argument, but keep them coming, it’s a riot to hear your pearls of wisdom as the program is literally imploding from inaction.
Btw, have not heard of a splashy donation he has reeled in during the past two years either. How long should we wait for that? It’s a bit pressing with the Glaser match condition. So he doesn’t have a plan and hasn’t brought in donations. Maybe there’s a connection there.
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Post by gymrat67 on Apr 11, 2021 13:02:41 GMT -5
It’s a good piece. Nothing incredibly deep beyond the Glaser stuff but it’s a high profile writer laying it all out for a large(r) audience so it’s a good thing. My biggest concern is they’re gonna halfway shoot with it and “reimagine” Heyman/Gola in a few noticeable ways but not enough to really alter things where you feel like you’re in an arena. That’s the minimum to me. Make me feel like I’m in an arena. Not a pro arena or a state of the art building, but just like a place where later that night there won’t be intramural floor hockey or that the janitor is shutting the lights off at 9:30 whether the game is over or not. I remain totally skeptical anything meaningful can be done within the existing structure of Hayman/Gola that would meaningfully change things. Finding a way to fit 5 rows of seats behind the basket and calling the issue resolved is the worst scenario possible to me. you do realize there are already renderings and blueprints done for another gola/hayman/trumark renovation. explorertown.proboards.com/thread/3259/comprehensive-facilities-master-plan-trumark explorertown.proboards.com/attachment/download/912reading between the lines, this is what baptiste was talking about in the jensen interview. they will flip the court and have between 10-15 rows of seats on the two sidelines, 12-15 rows behind one basket, and around 30-35 rows behind the other basket. the current 3400 seat capacity will remain roughly the same unless they've figured out a way to add more since then. i've always felt this was the best we could hope for. la salle just doesn't have the money for a brand new arena. it's all about raising the funds at this point. i've heard that the glaser money has grown a little bit (can't confirm this) from the quoted $5m. the question then becomes what the total price tag will be and how much more will they need to raise for another renovation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that in addition to the ten year time window constraint, the Glaser Insurance Trust Bequest also specifically requires that the Trust proceeds may only be disbursed to and drawn down by the University solely on a dollar-for-dollar matching funds basis, together with whatever funds La Salle is able to raise from other donors / sources. Assuming this to be the case, it would mean that AD Brian Baptiste must first have at least $5 million + in actual donations dollars in hand from these other sources before being in a position to sign legally binding construction contracts on the University's behalf for a Hayman / TGA / TruMark renovation in a larger amount which incorporates and includes the Glaser Bequest.
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Post by 23won on Apr 12, 2021 6:12:18 GMT -5
67, that is my understanding. See my post before yours. Carpe diem!
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Post by coachd on Apr 12, 2021 14:20:29 GMT -5
We need to see ground breaking on the new arena by 2023 or the Glaser $5 million is gone forever. What I want to know is how many people donated money years or decades ago and stated "for new arena construction only"... with interest accumulated, how much additional is that or did La Salle raid those funds? If we have $5 million from Glaser plus another $1 million from all those donations we can at least do the ground breaking and begin initial construction of a 5,000 seat arena. Add corporate naming rights for 25 years and seat licenses for right to buy season tickets and that would raise millions more... we'd obviously still need an alumni drive to raise additional $. Could also charge to have fast-food and Chickie and Peete's sports bar that open to the outside year round but during game days have inside arena access only... bringing in additional revenue.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 12, 2021 15:30:46 GMT -5
Need a corporate donor...in addition to the Glaser money and any alumni donations. Even if Glaser money has doubled in the last 8 years and is $10M, they need $10M more for matching. $20M won't cut it if they can get that. They would need $35-40M minimum to do anything meaningful.
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Post by weston2 on Apr 12, 2021 15:39:53 GMT -5
Need a corporate donor...in addition to the Glaser money and any alumni donations. Even if Glaser money has doubled in the last 8 years and is $10M, they need $10M more for matching. $20M won't cut it if they can get that. They would need $35-40M minimum to do anything meaningful. It's Philadelphia, need more 50-60m at least.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Apr 12, 2021 17:11:28 GMT -5
Need a corporate donor...in addition to the Glaser money and any alumni donations. Even if Glaser money has doubled in the last 8 years and is $10M, they need $10M more for matching. $20M won't cut it if they can get that. They would need $35-40M minimum to do anything meaningful. I was confused earlier in this thread by this thought. Does La Salle actually have the Glaser money sitting in an account gaining interest, or will they get a check when the matching funds are (hopefully) raised?
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 12, 2021 19:06:54 GMT -5
Need a corporate donor...in addition to the Glaser money and any alumni donations. Even if Glaser money has doubled in the last 8 years and is $10M, they need $10M more for matching. $20M won't cut it if they can get that. They would need $35-40M minimum to do anything meaningful. I was confused earlier in this thread by this thought. Does La Salle actually have the Glaser money sitting in an account gaining interest, or will they get a check when the matching funds are (hopefully) raised? My understanding is that it is in an account invested but not yet property of the University until they meet the conditions.
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Post by gymrat67 on Apr 18, 2021 14:27:22 GMT -5
Baptiste came to our Alumni Board meeting in January 2020 and said an Athletics Master Facilities plan would be completed and shared by the summer of 2020. Granted...COVID happened that could have caused some delay. But....crickets. It is well past summer From the article above: "You hear a lot of background chatter that La Salle is getting ready to move forward on a project. You always hear that chatter. Baptiste said an athletics master plan is nearly complete. Heard that before, too."We are always close to having a plan...with no actual plan. There are just not enough hours in the day Dept. La Salle University AD Brian Baptiste named to Philadelphia Business Journal's 40 under 40 goexplorers.com/news/2021/4/16/general-baptiste-named-to-philadelphia-business-journals-40-under-40.aspx ORGo to Athletics Dept on goexplorers.com, click on Inside Athletics at top of the home page, then click on " News " in column on right and scroll down to and open first news item for April 16, 2021.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 19, 2021 9:39:32 GMT -5
Reflecting on this...what is concerning is the amount of turnover we've had on those responsible for deciding how to use the Glaser money.
We are on our 3rd Athletic Director (Brennan, Bradshaw, Baptiste - apparently those with last name not starting with "B" need not apply) since this gift was bequeathed, and, come July, our 4th President, albeit 2 of them interim (McGinniss, Gallagher, Hancyz, ??), and quite possibly a 5th before the expiration of the gift.
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Post by gymrat67 on Apr 19, 2021 11:22:37 GMT -5
Call me a tough marker, but this seemingly self-congratulatory La Salle Athletics Dept. news item struck me as unusual if not irregular. Are AD Baptiste's time and focus spread too thin ? In terms of Optics, what does it say about AD Baptiste's priorities, vis-a-vis, for example, the amount of his time and effort being devoted to alumni development / fund raising in order to guarantee La Salle's entitlement to the Glaser Insurance Trust Bequest proceeds before the deadline expires ?
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Post by explorergrad08 on Apr 20, 2021 14:53:33 GMT -5
Baptiste came to our Alumni Board meeting in January 2020 and said an Athletics Master Facilities plan would be completed and shared by the summer of 2020. Granted...COVID happened that could have caused some delay. But....crickets. It is well past summer From the article above: "You hear a lot of background chatter that La Salle is getting ready to move forward on a project. You always hear that chatter. Baptiste said an athletics master plan is nearly complete. Heard that before, too."We are always close to having a plan...with no actual plan. There are just not enough hours in the day Dept. La Salle University AD Brian Baptiste named to Philadelphia Business Journal's 40 under 40 goexplorers.com/news/2021/4/16/general-baptiste-named-to-philadelphia-business-journals-40-under-40.aspx ORGo to Athletics Dept on goexplorers.com, click on Inside Athletics at top of the home page, then click on " News " in column on right and scroll down to and open first news item for April 16, 2021. In the "Weirdest Post of the Year That Appears to Be A Criticism of What I'm Not Sure" Dept., see above.
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Post by gymrat67 on Apr 21, 2021 13:04:45 GMT -5
In the "Weirdest Post of the Year That Appears to Be A Criticism of What I'm Not Sure" Dept., see above. explorergrad08 ( our standard accommodation since you only joined this board on October 20, 2020 ) :
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Post by sidclassof69 on Apr 22, 2021 9:08:02 GMT -5
Just read an article on status of Philly College Basketball- in The Athletic. It was written by a guy named C.J.Holmes.Part of article was a question and answer section by fans, to Holmes. One of the questions was, “ Where do you rate the Top 5 seating+ Overall experience venues to watch a game. Guess wh came in dead last( No.5)? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔GOLA ARENA SHOCKING ! I say SHOCKING I think I will write a letter of strong protest to Mr.Holmes!🤔🤔😂😂- Naah
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 9:32:40 GMT -5
Obviously the Philadelphia (area) beat is going to be very Villanova-centric, but I've really liked Holmes' writing this year.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 9:34:08 GMT -5
Also, while I know this is very obviously wrong because bad losses invalidate good wins and all that, but ...
La Salle went 9-16, but knocked of Dayton, Richmond and Saint Louis — three of the better teams in the Atlantic 10. If anything, it shows that Howard has the program moving in the right direction. All three programs entered the season with little to no expectations. All three still found a way to make progress and inspire hope heading into next season. It takes time to rebuild a program. Last season didn’t make matters any easier. At some point accountability will come for all three coaches if they don’t turn things around. But for now I think all three schools are leaning on patience.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 22, 2021 10:00:11 GMT -5
Also, while I know this is very obviously wrong because bad losses invalidate good wins and all that, but ... La Salle went 9-16, but knocked of Dayton, Richmond and Saint Louis — three of the better teams in the Atlantic 10. If anything, it shows that Howard has the program moving in the right direction. All three programs entered the season with little to no expectations. All three still found a way to make progress and inspire hope heading into next season. It takes time to rebuild a program. Last season didn’t make matters any easier. At some point accountability will come for all three coaches if they don’t turn things around. But for now I think all three schools are leaning on patience.Fixed it. La Salle went 9-16, but lost to Fordham and Saint Joe's (twice) — two of the worst teams in the Atlantic 10. If anything, it shows that Howard has the program moving in the wrong direction.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 10:10:32 GMT -5
La Salle beat Duquesne and since La Salle is very clearly awful that means Duquesne is even more awful ha ha ha.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 22, 2021 11:02:34 GMT -5
La Salle beat Duquesne and since La Salle is very clearly awful that means Duquesne is even more awful ha ha ha. The irony of you bringing them up in a facilities thread when they didn't have a $5M head start on renovating a facility from a gift in 2013, but somehow managed to have their leadership execute on it well before us...
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 11:10:51 GMT -5
And it still got them a 20 point loss against us. Failures.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 22, 2021 11:20:06 GMT -5
And it still got them a 20 point loss against us. Failures. That's because they were in our crappy facility (and coming off Covid pause). Maybe that's our secret...have a place uncomfortable to play in. Coming back to the topic....to whom do you assign the blame for no facilities plans? Colleen? Baptiste? Bradshaw? The BoT? Or will you refuse to give an opinion on yet another topic and just pivot to Duquesne some more?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 22, 2021 11:53:44 GMT -5
La Salle beat Duquesne and since La Salle is very clearly awful that means Duquesne is even more awful ha ha ha. The irony of you bringing them up in a facilities thread when they didn't have a $5M head start on renovating a facility from a gift in 2013, but somehow managed to have their leadership execute on it well before us... Pretty sure the naming rights to UPMC gave them a little head start...
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 22, 2021 12:09:21 GMT -5
The irony of you bringing them up in a facilities thread when they didn't have a $5M head start on renovating a facility from a gift in 2013, but somehow managed to have their leadership execute on it well before us... Pretty sure the naming rights to UPMC gave them a little head start... a head start in 2018 when they secured it versus our 2013 $5M head start?
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 12:11:03 GMT -5
Coming back to the topic....to whom do you assign the blame for no facilities plans? Colleen? Baptiste? Bradshaw? The BoT? Or will you refuse to give an opinion on yet another topic and just pivot to Duquesne some more? Lets scratch the 2nd year AD immediately, there's zero way to blame him for not having a $50MM+ project in place already. That's silly. Overall, I'm not sure I believe there's a responsible way for La Salle to self-fund this sort of endeavor. If you're asking what path I think could be taken to get it done, I think our only real option is a massive donation or several major donations pooled together. Any actual blame I lay is with the people who greenlit a high school gym 25 years ago. A self-evidentially awful idea (its not like comps weren't readily reviewable) that someone approved and no one stopped and has handcuffed us (athletically) for approaching 2-plus decades.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 22, 2021 12:12:45 GMT -5
(The need to have current blame is weird and dumb to me. Its like blaming my parents for not having a beach house or something.)
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