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Post by calsufan on Apr 28, 2024 17:50:43 GMT -5
Josh Harris isn’t making draft picks He helped coddle Simmons and Embiid. He was always feting those 2. Who knows if he's involved in the picks but he certainly hired Morey. |
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 28, 2024 17:57:00 GMT -5
Josh Harris isn’t making draft picks He helped coddle Simmons and Embiid. He was always feting those 2. Who knows if he's involved in the picks but he certainly hired Morey. Also allowed the NBA to force feed him Colangelo. Ultimate pussy move from a weak owner. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 18:02:35 GMT -5
We're getting over 14 pages on this thread. This is great stuff.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 18:03:52 GMT -5
He asked to play the whole second half. Nurse obliged. It was the wrong decision. You agree that he's out of shape and was useless in the last 6 minutes, right Joe? |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 28, 2024 18:11:07 GMT -5
No bigs with his usage rate play a whole half. The issue was nobody told him no.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 18:15:35 GMT -5
No bigs with his usage rate play a whole half. The issue was nobody told him no. It's been the same story his entire career here. Brett Brown type shit. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 28, 2024 18:20:42 GMT -5
No bigs with his usage rate play a whole half. The issue was nobody told him no. It's been the same story his entire career here. Brett Brown type shit. Find me another seven-footer with 35% usage rate or higher (shit, even a 25% usage rate or higher), who plays defense and averages more than 40 minutes. I’ll wait. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 18:48:43 GMT -5
It's been the same story his entire career here. Brett Brown type shit. Find me another seven-footer with 35% usage rate or higher (shit, even a 25% usage rate or higher), who plays defense and averages more than 40 minutes. I’ll wait. You misunderstood me. Brett Brown used to get bossed around by Simmons and Embiid. That's why they went with Doc rivers in 2020. My point is that Joe has done what ever he's wanted for close to a decade here. Bamba has to play 5-7 minutes. Otherwise, Embiid is going to be cooked by the 4th. But he's still out of shape, and has been out of shape for years now. He's fat. Lose 30 pounds. He needs to look like Giannis, that's what he looked like when he came into the league. It will save his legs and help his conditioning. Either he loses weight or you trade him. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 28, 2024 18:49:58 GMT -5
He’s not Giannis. They’re different. He missed three months. He’s gonna be out of shape. The coaches need to coach him.
And Mo Bamba is unplayable. Rickie Council as small ball big was a better plan. The fact that he hasn’t played a minute yet is an indictment of the team and the current nba.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 18:52:15 GMT -5
He’s not Giannis. They’re different. He missed three months. He’s gonna be out of shape. The coaches need to coach him. And Mo Bamba is unplayable. Rickie Council as small ball big was a better plan. The fact that he hasn’t played a minute yet is an indictment of the team and the current nba. We just need 7 minutes. Paul Reed stinks. MO Bamba stinks. But we need 7 minutes. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 28, 2024 18:57:16 GMT -5
Nick Nurse is supposed to be one of the smarter coaches in the league, but I’ve yet to see it in his rotations yet. Rickie rose to the occasion a half dozen times in the regular season. Playing Tobias Harris 35 minutes is wasting an opportunity. Hopefully he throws caution to the wind.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 19:06:34 GMT -5
It's one and done now.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Apr 28, 2024 19:23:06 GMT -5
Sixers need a cleansing and that includes the ownership group.. I would keep Maxey and Nurse pray to God the ownership group sells if I were King. This plan of pairing Emblid and Maxey with Paul George this offseason smells like 1st and 2nd round exits as well. Tear it all down a rebuild. The player part of the tear down is 'easy'. Only Embiid, Maxey and BBall Paul are under contract next season. |
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 28, 2024 19:30:04 GMT -5
Sixers need a cleansing and that includes the ownership group.. I would keep Maxey and Nurse pray to God the ownership group sells if I were King. This plan of pairing Emblid and Maxey with Paul George this offseason smells like 1st and 2nd round exits as well. Tear it all down a rebuild. The player part of the tear down is 'easy'. Only Embiid, Maxey and BBall Paul are under contract next season. Part of the tear down is moving on from Embiid and that is the hard part. Ownership will not want to do it but it has run its coarse and we are slowly sinking. Pretty soon they will not get anything for him. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 28, 2024 19:36:41 GMT -5
Would also love someone to find where a team moved on from an mvp who would have had his second had it not been for an injury.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 20:06:42 GMT -5
Joe, we have TWO years left of elite play from Embiid left. I'm not saying that he's Patrick Ewing at the end in 3-4 years, but he's not going to be top 5 or 7 player after that.
I'm trying to recall the last time a team traded a superstar and got better, maybe Andre Miller for AI?
It doesn't usually work in the NBA. What usually happens is a Kyrie (who was a huge reason Lebron won in 16), Durant, Harden, get a case of the asses and talk their way off teams out of frustration. Star players have teams by the balls. So these bad trades for pennies on the dollar are made.
We're probably a year away from Embiid getting pissed and wanting out.
Everything should be on the table.
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Post by calsufan on Apr 28, 2024 20:13:41 GMT -5
Would also love someone to find where a team moved on from an mvp who would have had his second had it not been for an injury. That's not the point of me calling for him to be traded. The Sixers in multiple permutations haven't won with Embiid. The team is in worse shape now which means they won't win with him in the near future. The window is closing on him because he's always injured / out of shape and he's not getting any younger. Better to trade him now when he's a top tier player than holding on for 3 or 4 years hoping that the team will improve around him. The sample size in the playoffs is enough to show that it won't improve. An aging Paul George won't fix the problem next year. Trade him when he's got max value and start rebuilding. |
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Post by lasallejohn on Apr 28, 2024 20:16:56 GMT -5
But if you don’t like the owner and think he’s pulling all the strings, why trust him with another rebuild?
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Post by MisterD on Apr 28, 2024 20:26:16 GMT -5
Find me another seven-footer with 35% usage rate or higher (shit, even a 25% usage rate or higher), who plays defense and averages more than 40 minutes. I’ll wait. If you lower that threshold to 25%, you get to include Embiid today so that works out. As far as plays defense … 44 points in the paint against and he wouldn’t have been top two on the Knicks in rebounds or blocks. Always grading the MVP on a curve but especially in the playoffs. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 20:28:23 GMT -5
Find me another seven-footer with 35% usage rate or higher (shit, even a 25% usage rate or higher), who plays defense and averages more than 40 minutes. I’ll wait. If you lower that threshold to 25%, you get to include Embiid today so that works out. As far as plays defense … 44 points in the paint against and he wouldn’t have been top two on the Knicks in rebounds or blocks. Always grading the MVP on a curve but especially in the playoffs. Would you trade him? |
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 28, 2024 21:16:10 GMT -5
But if you don’t like the owner and think he’s pulling all the strings, why trust him with another rebuild? Fair point. The easy answer is we have no choice. When you think what we have now is going to work what do you do? You change things. I would feel better if we had a better GM. Why concern is ever level needs fixings. Most likely changes go from on the court up so while I dislike Harris I realize he is going anywhere. |
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Post by MisterD on Apr 28, 2024 21:18:00 GMT -5
Like as a Knicks fan would I trade for him? No. Injuries and huge asset cost aside, I don’t think he has it in him to be the guy who refuses to lose in the playoffs and I don’t know how you build a team where a top ~5 player in the league can fade to 1B in the playoffs. |
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Post by MisterD on Apr 28, 2024 21:19:57 GMT -5
Not to make a callback joke, but a guy like Lillard in his prime is the answer but who knows if he ever becomes Lillard playing along side Embiid.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 28, 2024 21:21:30 GMT -5
Like as a Knicks fan would I trade for him? No. Injuries and huge asset cost aside, I don’t think he has it in him to be the guy who refuses to lose in the playoffs and I don’t know how you build a team where a top ~5 player in the league can fade to 1B in the playoffs. Thank you. So if you were the sixers GM in Camden, NJ, and July 1st rolls around... you would trade him. He's great. But he's a dog. Not a jimmy butler dog where he's going to take a team on the finals run, but a dog that when things get tough, he's grabbing shorts or limping down the court. |
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Post by MisterD on Apr 28, 2024 22:06:35 GMT -5
Well … I don’t think the sixers can do that either because you can’t get equal value and you’re already missing so many 1sts so there’s no path to rebuild. I think you have to find the best guy you can in UFA and hope that works.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 29, 2024 6:16:46 GMT -5
First playoff series is over. T-Wolves sweep the suns. The young eat the old. A changing of the guard in the NBA.
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Post by theneumann64 on Apr 29, 2024 7:23:20 GMT -5
Looking like a Minnesota-Denver 2nd round series. That could be fun.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 29, 2024 9:04:56 GMT -5
Lost in all of this is the Knicks fans took over the Wells Fargo center yesterday. I had 2 soccer games to attend, so I couldn't even watch the 1st 3 quarters.
Spring soccer is brutal with the makeup games from the shitty weekends we've had all spring.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 29, 2024 9:16:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I caught Q1 and was at a 12U softball game after that and basketball just has too much score movement to follow along on the phone so I tried to just keep it in my pocket until it ended. Knicks won in case you didn't check.
I was so close to a perfect sports day yesterday if not for Brickus (and even that has the big silver lining): City won, Knicks one, my oldest's 12U won (cut down the tying run at the plate from SS on a perfect throw), Yankees won, Rangers won ... nice little Sunday.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 29, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5
BTW, if La Salle is going to turn over half of its roster annually, I'm cool with turning this forum into a general sports board just to stay on touch with everybody.
Food for thought.
Unless Neumann wants to do a podcast and let me fire away, mad dog style.
I asked Delgreco if he wanted to chop it up, and I got crickets in return.
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