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Post by hoopsguest on May 13, 2024 15:24:37 GMT -5
I mean it's smart. Can prob save 5+ million in NIL this way. You need walk ons for a full scrimmage. It can work if a team stays healthy. Cal is also planning to hire grad assistants who just finished pro careers (mostly overseas) who can still play and using them in practice when they go live. Cal already let go the 12 GA’s at Arkansas that were already there. This idea works if you can have 5 GA’s or more - A10 schools don’t generally keep that many GA’s |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 13, 2024 16:18:51 GMT -5
This is what everyone is up against. Jonathan Givony @draftexpress · 2m BREAKING: Great Osobor, the top-available player in the transfer portal, has committed to Washington, George Langberg of GSL Sports Group told ESPN. Osobor will be the highest-paid known player in college basketball, with 2 million dollars of NIL deals already in place.  Mik, Osobor is from Spain. How is a foreigner going to legally make 2 million on a student visa? I know Edy bitched about not being able to capitalize on NIL being Canadian, and it was a big part of Dunphy hitting Europe hard when he got here. However, both Drames and Rokas are foreigners, so I don't know the loopholes. |
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Post by explorer88 on May 22, 2024 12:38:37 GMT -5
Sources: Max Shulga is returning to VCU next season and will not attend Villanova.
Averaged 14 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 3.6 APG last season.
A massive coup for Ryan Odom and the Rams
VCU lucks out. Nova appears to be the one who pushed Shulga out. They are bringing in someone else. Possibly Wooga Poplar from Miami.
Can you imagine if it was Brickus pushed out?
The portal isn't always friendly to players.
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 12:40:25 GMT -5
That seems pretty f'ed up.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 22, 2024 13:01:48 GMT -5
Good thing VCU had an open spot. These are the downsides to the portal.
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Post by crayzeeguy on May 22, 2024 14:00:23 GMT -5
As a wise man once said… "Don't hate the player, hate the game"
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 22, 2024 14:34:05 GMT -5
Sources: Max Shulga is returning to VCU next season and will not attend Villanova. Averaged 14 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 3.6 APG last season. A massive coup for Ryan Odom and the Rams VCU lucks out. Nova appears to be the one who pushed Shulga out. They are bringing in someone else. Possibly Wooga Poplar from Miami. Can you imagine if it was Brickus pushed out? The portal isn't always friendly to players. If 35% of college under classmen continue to transfer annually, I'm sure we're going to hear more cases like this. |
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 15:16:36 GMT -5
I could absolutely see a program not allowing a player back who entered the portal, but if Villanova offered, he accepted and then Villanova went back, that's messed up and reflects poorly on Neptune. If Shulga had some misgivings and its mutual, all good.
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 15:19:52 GMT -5
(And jumping ahead, no I don't consider it an equal foul if a kid walks back a commitment. Its not great, but a program doesn't have their life or plans uprooted in the same way a kid does.)
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Post by explorer88 on May 22, 2024 15:24:50 GMT -5
I could absolutely see a program not allowing a player back who entered the portal, but if Villanova offered, he accepted and then Villanova went back, that's messed up and reflects poorly on Neptune. If Shulga had some misgivings and its mutual, all good. So all the leverage should go to the player? This is a new world. I have no sympathy for these kids or the schools. The downside should be equal for both. VCU was screwed by a player who backed out of his commitment because he got more NIL money elsewhere. Both sides are in peril in these new times. Both sides need to vet each other a lot more than they do. As fans we are screwed over more than anymore. I have no sympathy for the player or the school any longer. |
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 15:37:51 GMT -5
No. If a school offers, accepts and reneges, the player is screwed over far far faaaaaaar more than any fan is in any possible situation. This is their real lives with real money and real schooling. We're watching.
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Post by explorer88 on May 22, 2024 15:50:16 GMT -5
No. If a school offers, accepts and reneges, the player is screwed over far far faaaaaaar more than any fan is in any possible situation. This is their real lives with real money and real schooling. We're watching. Give me a break. The fan is paying for all of this. Without the fan this all goes away for good. These kids will need to pay their way to college like I did and many others did, or go into the working world, and very few will still make money playing the sport if the fan pulls out. Their entire market share happens because of the the fan. We leave and leave for good, we downsize our commitment to our fandom or we remain the same and live with the shitshow. The players live by the chain reaction of all of this when all is said and done. |
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Post by MisterD on May 22, 2024 16:36:54 GMT -5
I am saying that if Shulga got pushed out of Villanova, he is more affected than some Villanova fan would be if Shulga backed out. I don't even see how that's arguable. He would have to completely rethink his college career. The Villanova fan would say "dammit" and then go make dinner as planned.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 22, 2024 17:39:41 GMT -5
An article I saw from a Richmond paper seems to indicate that Shulga changed his mind. With him staying, Jack Clark going there, and landing Phillip Russell from UT Arlington who averaged 14.9 points and 4.4 assists per game, I have to think VCU is now the odds-on favorite in the A10.
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Post by explorer88 on May 22, 2024 17:55:48 GMT -5
I am saying that if Shulga got pushed out of Villanova, he is more affected than some Villanova fan would be if Shulga backed out. I don't even see how that's arguable. He would have to completely rethink his college career. The Villanova fan would say "dammit" and then go make dinner as planned. Okay, I get that and I am on board there. Ultimately I don’t care for either side and could care less if one or the other gain leverage. As a customer I either like the product or I don’t. Could care less if the company or employees are at fault when the product isn’t to my liking. I think most feel this way. Individually I can say a player or school got screwed but in totality when we don’t care for the product or service we really don’t care for the reasons. |
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Post by crayzeeguy on Jun 5, 2024 19:29:31 GMT -5
Wooga to Nova confirmed.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 6, 2024 6:41:17 GMT -5
Just Davidson getting another guy that does specifically what Davidson wants their guys to do.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jun 6, 2024 7:21:22 GMT -5
Just Davidson getting another guy that does specifically what Davidson wants their guys to do. I will settle for an overweight 6'7 Slovenian point guard. Find me one, Fran! I will settle for another Juan Fernandez! |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Jun 6, 2024 10:02:20 GMT -5
surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction to this. they reportedly paid huge dollars for poplar. the pressure to win and make the ncaa tournament is now even greater for neptune. in the past week, eric dixon announced he's coming back and they got boakye from fresno st who avgd 7 pts and 8 rbds. will that be enough to put them over the top? they'll have a very good starting five with poplar, dixon, boakye, longino and jhamir, but jhamir is the only true point on the roster so they'll need to go back to the portal again or find a quality foreign or juco player who can back him up. the only player off the bench with experience is perkins who transferred in from penn. between the lack of experience and neptune's coaching struggles, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Jun 6, 2024 10:17:53 GMT -5
Just Davidson getting another guy that does specifically what Davidson wants their guys to do. I will settle for an overweight 6'7 Slovenian point guard. Find me one, Fran! I will settle for another Juan Fernandez! no scholarships left. dunph has 4 guys who can all handle the point (deuce jones, eric acker, corey mckeithan and jorge sanchez-ramos) with two who can slide over to the off guard spot (deuce and eric along with andres and jahlil). i think la salle will have a stronger backcourt than people think. |
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Post by hoopsguest on Jun 6, 2024 20:01:22 GMT -5
surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction to this. they reportedly paid huge dollars for poplar. the pressure to win and make the ncaa tournament is now even greater for neptune. in the past week, eric dixon announced he's coming back and they got boakye from fresno st who avgd 7 pts and 8 rbds. will that be enough to put them over the top? they'll have a very good starting five with poplar, dixon, boakye, longino and jhamir, but jhamir is the only true point on the roster so they'll need to go back to the portal again or find a quality foreign or juco player who can back him up. the only player off the bench with experience is perkins who transferred in from penn. between the lack of experience and neptune's coaching struggles, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. Villanova doesn’t have a guy who can get his own shot. That is their problem. They are going to miss Justin Moore. Armstrong could have developed into that guy but that was a long shot |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jun 6, 2024 20:09:39 GMT -5
surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction to this. they reportedly paid huge dollars for poplar. the pressure to win and make the ncaa tournament is now even greater for neptune. in the past week, eric dixon announced he's coming back and they got boakye from fresno st who avgd 7 pts and 8 rbds. will that be enough to put them over the top? they'll have a very good starting five with poplar, dixon, boakye, longino and jhamir, but jhamir is the only true point on the roster so they'll need to go back to the portal again or find a quality foreign or juco player who can back him up. the only player off the bench with experience is perkins who transferred in from penn. between the lack of experience and neptune's coaching struggles, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. Villanova doesn’t have a guy who can get his own shot. That is their problem. They are going to miss Justin Moore. Armstrong could have developed into that guy but that was a long shot Jig??? |
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Post by hoopsguest on Jun 9, 2024 8:23:53 GMT -5
Villanova doesn’t have a guy who can get his own shot. That is their problem. They are going to miss Justin Moore. Armstrong could have developed into that guy but that was a long shot Jig??? In the Big East, Brickus getting his own shot is going to be tough |
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Post by big5explorer on Jun 9, 2024 11:07:20 GMT -5
No. If a school offers, accepts and reneges, the player is screwed over far far faaaaaaar more than any fan is in any possible situation. This is their real lives with real money and real schooling. We're watching. Give me a break. The fan is paying for all of this. True. But not completely true. It won't be only the fans paying these players. It will be the donors, and the schools. And by schools I mean the students and parents paying tuition. And money that previously went to facilities will now go to paying athletes, rather than building new buildings (academic and athletic). Whether it takes 5 or 10 or 15 years, this will be the soft-stop to the insanity of paying college athletes. Students, and their parents, as well as faculty may eventually become very vocal about where University dollars are going. Schools, and conferences, are going to eventually feel the pressure to cap money going to players. Good luck to the Penn State President trying to explain to his faculty why they are being paid 50k a year when $30M is going to pay student football players. |
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Post by mookie on Jun 9, 2024 12:50:31 GMT -5
In the Big East, Brickus getting his own shot is going to be tough Let’s not downplay Jig. Folks are quick to overvalue then all of a sudden undervalue players. Will it be tougher than than the A10? Yes. Will it be impossible? No. Jig will still be able to create his shot and be effective. He should still be able to get 8-10 ppg and be very effective. |
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Post by lasallejohn on Jun 9, 2024 13:23:30 GMT -5
I guess we’ll see when Nova comes to open the new Glaser
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Post by hoopsguest on Jun 9, 2024 13:38:09 GMT -5
In the Big East, Brickus getting his own shot is going to be tough Let’s not downplay Jig. Folks are quick to overvalue then all of a sudden undervalue players. Will it be tougher than than the A10? Yes. Will it be impossible? No. Jig will still be able to create his shot and be effective. He should still be able to get 8-10 ppg and be very effective. I thought he was a good not great player here - think like Julian Blanks. But at end of clock I wanted Brantley to have the ball. An 8-10 PPG guy is not who you want to have it at the end of a clock or when you need a score. Maybe one of their freshmen will surprise |
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Post by mookie on Jun 9, 2024 13:48:57 GMT -5
Let’s not downplay Jig. Folks are quick to overvalue then all of a sudden undervalue players. Will it be tougher than than the A10? Yes. Will it be impossible? No. Jig will still be able to create his shot and be effective. He should still be able to get 8-10 ppg and be very effective. I thought he was a good not great player here - think like Julian Blanks. But at end of clock I wanted Brantley to have the ball. An 8-10 PPG guy is not who you want to have it at the end of a clock or when you need a score. Maybe one of their freshmen will surprise Brantley isn’t great either. Brantley may have a hit a big shot or two but he’s not as good of a shooter, ball handler or creator than Jig. Jig doesn’t need to be the main scorer on a team. He’s a guy that can be a 2nd or 3rd option on a good team. Brantley is a 1st or 2nd on an at best, average team with a 6th or 7th man “instant offense” type role on a good team… |
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Post by las71 on Jun 9, 2024 14:06:45 GMT -5
Players like Brickus have been undersized for their entire playing career. Despite that fact or maybe because of that, they have spent their basketball lives finding ways to compete against bigger players. The Big East is one more time he'll use his talent and craftiness to succeed.
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Post by explorer88 on Jun 9, 2024 14:20:10 GMT -5
Brickus will be fine in the Big East. As long as he remains aggressive he will do just fine.
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