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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 2, 2017 23:22:31 GMT -5
#NotMyRenovation
Maybe HGTV can do a show on the rebuilt TGA and we can get it for free?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 23:24:21 GMT -5
Sorry, that's not correct. The court would still be going the same direction as today. The Olney Ave wall was going to be blown out and I believe the third floor would have been extended over the top of the mezzanine level toward the parking lot. Capacity was going to be in the 6,200 range. No seats behind the baskets??? I could have sworn that to be the case kjmac? Where did I say there wouldn't be seats behind the baskets? All I said was that the court would still go in the same direction as it does now. Why would they blow out the Olney Ave wall and extend the third floor towards the parking lot? For seating of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 23:28:12 GMT -5
Blowing out the wall means a longer structure and room behind, no? You got it. |
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Post by coachd on Feb 3, 2017 10:25:36 GMT -5
That's why you go 6,000... don't build it for what we draw now, build it for what we want to draw. [/b] And how many games does that take? 3? 4? Something new, shiny, and state of the art, 5K - can offer to the CL for playoffs? Hockey, anyone? [/quote] Drone Navigation course competition. |
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Post by sweat83 on Feb 3, 2017 13:41:52 GMT -5
That's why you go 6,000... don't build it for what we draw now, build it for what we want to draw. La Salle is never going to routinely draw 6000 barring a string of years where they are in the top 25. Even teams that are in the top 25 routinely don't draw 6000. Temple's average attendance last year was 6100. Villanova's was 8100. La Salle's was 2400, and we know that it was probably closer to 1500-2000 in actuality. Temple has 10x the number of alumni that La Salle does and play in a better league. Villanova was the national champion and play at the Wells Fargo 5 times a year. Don't need to go big. Go nice. Go loud. I would think that if you want to draw 6,000, the Gola 2.0 Parking Garage would have to be built as well. How many cars should the parking garage accommodate? |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 3, 2017 13:43:17 GMT -5
The previous administration apparently said no to turning the TGA floor from N/S to E/W. The current administration should say yes. Our program is half-decent, but our fan base is weak and it would be a GIANT WASTE OF MONEY to build a new gym. Renovate the TGA and flip the court. We (as fans) do not deserve a new gym. We do, however, deserve a place to watch games where people don't enter the court under one of the baskets. I remember us arm-chair architects figuring out that this would work, but I have it on good authority that something would be possible. I do not, however, believe that a new arena is out of the question. It doesn't need to be the Wells Fargo center. It can be clean and intimate without being huge and expensive. Even if it's not expensive, who is going to pay for it? Steve Degnan? A P-3 arrangement, corporate naming rights? I simply do not see this happening. Do you think enough alumni would step up to the plate, because I do not. However, I attend one home game per year and am no longer actively involved with the Alumni Association. So I am genuinely interested to hear why my pessimism is unwarranted, and would like nothing more than to be wrong. |
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Post by calsufan on Feb 3, 2017 14:11:25 GMT -5
I remember us arm-chair architects figuring out that this would work, but I have it on good authority that something would be possible. I do not, however, believe that a new arena is out of the question. It doesn't need to be the Wells Fargo center. It can be clean and intimate without being huge and expensive. Even if it's not expensive, who is going to pay for it? Steve Degnan? A P-3 arrangement, corporate naming rights? I simply do not see this happening. Do you think enough alumni would step up to the plate, because I do not. However, I attend one home game per year and am no longer actively involved with the Alumni Association. So I am genuinely interested to hear why my pessimism is unwarranted, and would like nothing more than to be wrong. You're not wrong. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 3, 2017 14:54:24 GMT -5
Even if it's not expensive, who is going to pay for it? Steve Degnan? A P-3 arrangement, corporate naming rights? I simply do not see this happening. Do you think enough alumni would step up to the plate, because I do not. However, I attend one home game per year and am no longer actively involved with the Alumni Association. So I am genuinely interested to hear why my pessimism is unwarranted, and would like nothing more than to be wrong. You're not wrong. No, but La Salle pays about a half dozen people a boatload of money to figure this out. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 3, 2017 14:57:39 GMT -5
Maybe HGTV can do a show on the rebuilt TGA and we can get it for free? They can do "Love it or List It", and it can profile the the journeys of Hanycz and Bradshaw as they shop for a used arena that will meet all of our needs! |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 3, 2017 17:23:43 GMT -5
Maybe HGTV can do a show on the rebuilt TGA and we can get it for free? They can do "Love it or List It", and it can profile the the journeys of Hanycz and Bradshaw as they shop for a used arena that will meet all of our needs! Y'all need to take back the remote from your wives! Or at least pretend like you're reading the sports section and not looking at Christina El Moussa, which is what I do. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 17:34:30 GMT -5
I can't imagine renovating TGA would fix all of the issues the Hayman Center has. At this point the facility's highest and best use would be demolition, followed by use of the rubble as test payloads for SpaceX launches.
By the way, thanks to the 48 people who have voted and commented. I'm the lone vote at 8000+, but 5-6k seems much more reasonable now.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 3, 2017 18:16:01 GMT -5
I'm the lone vote at 8000+, but 5-6k seems much more reasonable now. "1,000 or less" or bust. It's going to be a grassroots campaign built on Tullamore, nachos, the tears of Explorers fans, and sarcasm. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 18:22:32 GMT -5
I'm the lone vote at 8000+, but 5-6k seems much more reasonable now. "1,000 or less" or bust. It's going to be a grassroots campaign built on Tullamore, nachos, the tears of Explorers fans, and sarcasm. When La Salle engages their next capital campaign I'm getting that engraved on a brick. |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 4, 2017 8:19:35 GMT -5
"1,000 or less" or bust. It's going to be a grassroots campaign built on Tullamore, nachos, the tears of Explorers fans, and sarcasm. When La Salle engages their next capital campaign I'm getting that engraved on a brick. An engraved brick for a high rise dorm to replace E & F? (Sarcasm) |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 4, 2017 8:45:39 GMT -5
When La Salle engages their next capital campaign I'm getting that engraved on a brick. An engraved brick for a high rise dorm to replace E & F? (Sarcasm) To memorialize Tom Gola Arena, I heard they're going to put the new arena on the top floor of the high-rise dormitory. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 4, 2017 8:48:16 GMT -5
Off the rails.
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 4, 2017 9:36:18 GMT -5
If you look at the poll results chart and tilt your head 90 degrees to the right, I think it is trying to tell us something.
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Post by gymrat67 on Feb 4, 2017 11:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by olneyave on Feb 4, 2017 11:51:22 GMT -5
Some people need a reality check. New arena will help with recruiting a bit, but after the new luster wears off, attendance will be right where it is now. Needed more than an arena is a place/places where alumni can meet up with for drinks and dinner before the game. That is something the campus lacks and based on the location, is never going to happen, unfortunately. Currently, if I meet up with friends for a game we are in like Manayunk and then drive to campus... that is far from a "game day experience" and seats behind the basket is not going to fix that.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 4, 2017 11:59:04 GMT -5
If you look at the poll results chart and tilt your head 90 degrees to the right, I think it is trying to tell us something. Hmm. It looks like a middle finger. How bow dah... |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 4, 2017 12:50:06 GMT -5
Some people need a reality check. New arena will help with recruiting a bit, but after the new luster wears off, attendance will be right where it is now. Needed more than an arena is a place/places where alumni can meet up with for drinks and dinner before the game. That is something the campus lacks and based on the location, is never going to happen, unfortunately. Currently, if I meet up with friends for a game we are in like Manayunk and then drive to campus... that is far from a "game day experience" and seats behind the basket is not going to fix that. Exactly! Will a new arena lead to sellout crowds on a Wednesday night in February when we play Fordham? I think it is quixotic. (I love that word--quixotic.) And please don't theorize that it will if we Build It They Will Come, even if we have a Top 25 team. I graduated in 1990 and had season tickets all four years when we played in Center City. I recall plenty of MAAC games where we drew similar attendance as we do today, even though we had the best teams in our history outside of the Gola era. Sure, people showed up for Big 5 games, a memorable game against #5 FSU in '88-'89 and LMU in '89-'90, but when Iona, Manhattan and the like came to town, only the diehards were there. I'm with Madame President on this one: start selling out TGA and then it's a conversation worth having. Come to Fairfax, VA, tonight and pelt me with eggs, if you wish, but please don't miss and take out my beautiful wife. |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 4, 2017 13:16:36 GMT -5
I totally disagree. A discussion about a new arena has to address competing priorities like new dorms and other upgrades to the campus that are desperately needed if La Salle will remain viable and competitive as an academic institution, let alone as a men's basketball program. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 4, 2017 13:20:42 GMT -5
I totally disagree. A discussion about a new arena has to address competing priorities like new dorms and other upgrades to the campus that are desperately needed if La Salle will remain viable and competitive as an academic institution, let alone as a men's basketball program. No, it's off the rails and I'm loving it. |
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 4, 2017 13:31:35 GMT -5
The answer, as with almost anything in life, is women. We've been pumping out 60 plus precent female graduates for sometime. Are female alumni as diehard as we are? Lay the groundwork with success (WIN goddamnit )for those now attending which may translate into better alumni attendance in future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 18:59:53 GMT -5
In the purest sense, yes. It's kind of shocking it costs $2.5m to do what little they're looking to do. I do like Rose Hill Gym though. It too has obvious shortcomings, but it also has charm and intimacy. Fordham's put an emphasis on academics over athletics for a while, and I respect that. It also has a lot more curb appeal than Hayman / TGA, and it looks like it belongs on campus.  Some people need a reality check. New arena will help with recruiting a bit, but after the new luster wears off, attendance will be right where it is now. Needed more than an arena is a place/places where alumni can meet up with for drinks and dinner before the game. That is something the campus lacks and based on the location, is never going to happen, unfortunately. Currently, if I meet up with friends for a game we are in like Manayunk and then drive to campus... that is far from a "game day experience" and seats behind the basket is not going to fix that. You're not wrong on either count. If it comes down to La Salle footing most of the bill on a new facility, I wouldn't hold it against them for saying no. As for on campus dining and game day experiences, I wholeheartedly agree there too, and there are some solid spots on campus you could make something like this happen. |
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Post by weston2 on Feb 4, 2017 19:34:45 GMT -5
Maybe HGTV can do a show on the rebuilt TGA and we can get it for free? They can do "Love it or List It", and it can profile the the journeys of Hanycz and Bradshaw as they shop for a used arena that will meet all of our needs! Come on, LaSalle has been ahead of the curve......................Tiny House........Arena. Ghost of This Old...........(Field) House? |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 4, 2017 19:42:20 GMT -5
Legitimately sad I missed the "Tiny House" connection... such an easy one!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 19:52:59 GMT -5
Come on, LaSalle has been ahead of the curve......................Tiny House........Arena. Ghost of This Old...........(Field) House? That second one might be an actual winner. There's a strong niche of big construction timeline documentaries. |
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Post by mikesmd77 on Feb 4, 2017 19:55:02 GMT -5
can we build a facility with the capacity of 24? Maybe if we can only fit the players and not coaches we'd perform much better
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Post by mookie on Feb 4, 2017 20:03:43 GMT -5
Some people need a reality check. New arena will help with recruiting a bit, but after the new luster wears off, attendance will be right where it is now. Needed more than an arena is a place/places where alumni can meet up with for drinks and dinner before the game. That is something the campus lacks and based on the location, is never going to happen, unfortunately. Currently, if I meet up with friends for a game we are in like Manayunk and then drive to campus... that is far from a "game day experience" and seats behind the basket is not going to fix that. And please don't theorize that it will if we Build It They Will Come, even if we have a Top 25 team. I recall plenty of MAAC games where we drew similar attendance as we do today, even though we had the best teams in our history outside of the Gola era. Sure, people showed up for Big 5 games, a memorable game against #5 FSU in '88-'89 and LMU in '89-'90, but when Iona, Manhattan and the like came to town, only the diehards were there.. Well when you put it like that then why even have a discussion about facilities because it would be pointless knowing that it will have 0 impact on the status quo. |
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