MisterD
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2019 8:07:23 GMT -5
The biggest question to me is how taxes on both ends are going to play into this. Are schools going to employ CPAs for these students? Just have kids on various business school scholarships do their financial planning unpaid. Its not unreasonable to ask for near full-time hours in addition to school work. Those accounting and finance students should just be happy to have this opportunity to go to school in the first place, they're getting so much out of it that I don't see the case for them being paid even more for this work on top of room, board, tuition AND food they get to eat when the food halls are open. |
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MisterD
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2019 8:08:21 GMT -5
Meanwhile the real students mortgage their futures. Fucked up. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Oct 30, 2019 8:14:05 GMT -5
There's a through line for both college and pro athletes that when they receive something (a scholarship, a multi-million dollar deal etc.) that they're "given it" as opposed to earning it and that they should be happy with the largesse they are receiving from the NCAA, the school, the team etc. as opposed to wanting more.
You're really showing your cards if you are begrudging college athletes being paid for their likenesses, which everyone else in the country is entitled to, just because it disrupts the fantasies you have about amateurism, playing just for the love of the game, or whatever.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 30, 2019 8:26:35 GMT -5
Pretty sure there’s something else besides concern RE: amateurism at play.
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Post by 23won on Oct 30, 2019 12:45:12 GMT -5
This quote shows what a dumb-a$$ Emmert is:
"One of the most distinctive things about college sports is this whole recruitment process," NCAA President Mark Emmert told the AP. "The whole notion of trying to maintain as fair a playing field as you can is really central to all this. And using sponsorship arrangements, in one way or another, as recruiting inducements is something everybody is deeply concerned about."
It's not fair and never has been. Players have been paid off and academic scandals have occurred and the NCAA for the vast majority of cases, just looked the other way.
He obviously doesn't see the writing on the wall for his (and the NCAA's) irrelevance now that state legislatures (and money influencers) are circling the wagons. I predict the NCAA drafts something everyone hates and the states write the NCAA out of existence for all practical purposes.
The states have a vested interest in taxing electronic and wire payments;they have missed out on getting a piece of the paper bag cash payments. No real altruism here for the players, just another revenue pipe so they can waste more taxpayer money. If you didn't catch it before, that is what I meant by just another soda tax here.
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MisterD
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2019 13:55:54 GMT -5
Does he care that adidas doesn't give MEAC schools the same sponsorship deals they give ACC schools or is that "just different"?
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Post by weston2 on Oct 30, 2019 14:22:27 GMT -5
Does he care that adidas doesn't give MEAC schools the same sponsorship deals they give ACC schools or is that "just different"? But they do get those "buy" games as a makeup (checkout the P5 skeds)...…..see Texas Southern, etal…..Makes their annual budget. Do A10 schools get buy games? Maybe, one? SJU at Connecticut, this year. It's called market forces, you think the colleges are socialists with their own money. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Oct 30, 2019 14:37:26 GMT -5
Does he care that adidas doesn't give MEAC schools the same sponsorship deals they give ACC schools or is that "just different"? But they do get those "buy" games as a makeup (checkout the P5 skeds)...…..see Texas Southern, etal…..Makes their annual budget. Do A10 schools get buy games? Maybe, one? SJU at Connecticut, this year. It's called market forces, you think the colleges are socialists with their own money. Are you trying to make a market-based argument about an industry built on unpaid labor? |
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Post by calsufan on Oct 30, 2019 14:48:36 GMT -5
But they do get those "buy" games as a makeup (checkout the P5 skeds)...…..see Texas Southern, etal…..Makes their annual budget. Do A10 schools get buy games? Maybe, one? SJU at Connecticut, this year. It's called market forces, you think the colleges are socialists with their own money. Are you trying to make a market-based argument about an industry built on unpaid labor? To be fair, they're getting paid via a full scholarship. Now is it equitable? That's a different argument. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Oct 30, 2019 15:09:36 GMT -5
Are you trying to make a market-based argument about an industry built on unpaid labor? To be fair, they're getting paid via a full scholarship. Now is it equitable? That's a different argument. Sure. We can argue about whether they should get paid or not. But I don't see how we can talk about market principles as if this is any sort of situation that's got any comparable examples anywhere outside of college athletics. |
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2019 15:58:09 GMT -5
What if you factor in "I like it the way it is now, ok"?
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Post by gymrat67 on May 30, 2020 12:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Mar 31, 2021 18:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by jb71 on Mar 31, 2021 19:05:39 GMT -5
So can sports agent for college athletes be far behind openly negotiating deals out of high school? And personally, if it happens I'd like to see their tuition benefit considered taxable as income. Your either an amateur or you earning income.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 31, 2021 19:23:12 GMT -5
So can sports agent for college athletes be far behind openly negotiating deals out of high school? And personally, if it happens I'd like to see their tuition benefit considered taxable as income. Your either an amateur or you earning income. Should other students who get scholarships for other reasons be taxed on that as well? |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 31, 2021 19:38:37 GMT -5
So can sports agent for college athletes be far behind openly negotiating deals out of high school? And personally, if it happens I'd like to see their tuition benefit considered taxable as income. Your either an amateur or you earning income. Should other students who get scholarships for other reasons be taxed on that as well? Interesting question that brings up some thoughts. Stipends for things like teaching and research assistantships are taxable because you are considered an employee of the university and it is a salary. Now the question...are the things beyond the normal tuition and room and board for an athlete...the stipends, if you will, really a salary? And if so, why not have an "agent" negotiate a better salary for you? |
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Post by LaSallePal on Mar 31, 2021 21:02:04 GMT -5
So can sports agent for college athletes be far behind openly negotiating deals out of high school? And personally, if it happens I'd like to see their tuition benefit considered taxable as income. Your either an amateur or you earning income. Should other students who get scholarships for other reasons be taxed on that as well? It's already taxed if what they receive exceeds the cost of attendance. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 3, 2021 11:45:07 GMT -5
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Post by weston2 on Jun 3, 2021 18:54:22 GMT -5
And when government gets involved with anything (remember these guys have run up 30 trillion of debt, & counting)........how's those tuition payments going. Hey, they can always just print more money. Get ready for even more separation of athlete(-employee) and scholar (??). The portal ?? will be replaced by the free agency negotiated offer. What a potential mess this can become. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 21, 2021 17:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 30, 2021 19:22:16 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 17, 2021 1:39:37 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 18, 2021 18:57:59 GMT -5
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jul 18, 2021 20:51:08 GMT -5
Question - if La Salle sells jerseys of Simmons or Gola, to they (or their estates) get a cut?
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Post by coachd on Jul 19, 2021 10:03:42 GMT -5
Question - if La Salle sells jerseys of Simmons or Gola, to they (or their estates) get a cut? Imagine what Gola, Durrett, Brooks and Simmons would have earned in College if they had the opportunity to be paid!!! Where does college hoops go now, will La Salle survive or thrive in the big Philadelphia market? |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jul 21, 2021 18:28:40 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jul 21, 2021 18:59:44 GMT -5
Says Saban, who makes about 15x that ungodly amount every year.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jul 21, 2021 20:01:00 GMT -5
Kind of earned it though with 7 National Championships.
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Post by weston2 on Jul 21, 2021 21:56:02 GMT -5
At some point it would seem to make the college scholarships a taxable event watching all this start to play out. |
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MisterD
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Post by MisterD on Jul 22, 2021 8:40:13 GMT -5
Are scholarships taxable for non-athletes who have outside earnings?
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