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Post by 23won on Oct 1, 2019 5:11:41 GMT -5
Our legislators are crafting another soda tax.
Take the ridiculous state backed spending for stadiums at public schools and allow sports drink and show companies to roll the dice and pay 18 year olds for their likeness. Who pays ? We do; the consumers that pay for the increasingly overpriced product.
If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time
When that happens colleges and conferences will have no identity and they will be using endowment money to fund an even crazier arms race that they are over leveraged on already
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Post by theneumann64 on Oct 1, 2019 7:12:23 GMT -5
Our legislators are crafting another soda tax. Take the ridiculous state backed spending for stadiums at public schools and allow sports drink and show companies to roll the dice and pay 18 year olds for their likeness. Who pays ? We do; the consumers that pay for the increasingly overpriced product. If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time When that happens colleges and conferences will have no identity and they will be using endowment money to fund an even crazier arms race that they are over leveraged on already Man, you're entitled to your opinion, but I have to say this is almost incomprehensible to me. You can deal with all of the corruption now, while coaches and administrators and schools reap huge profits, but if the players start to see a tiny fraction of that money, you're out?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 1, 2019 8:30:16 GMT -5
If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time
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Post by weston2 on Oct 1, 2019 8:36:00 GMT -5
Our legislators are crafting another soda tax. Take the ridiculous state backed spending for stadiums at public schools and allow sports drink and show companies to roll the dice and pay 18 year olds for their likeness. Who pays ? We do; the consumers that pay for the increasingly overpriced product. If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time When that happens colleges and conferences will have no identity and they will be using endowment money to fund an even crazier arms race that they are over leveraged on already Yep. The Age of the Kardashians coming to college sports....can't wait for the on-line opportunities.
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Post by theneumann64 on Oct 1, 2019 8:44:19 GMT -5
Our legislators are crafting another soda tax. Take the ridiculous state backed spending for stadiums at public schools and allow sports drink and show companies to roll the dice and pay 18 year olds for their likeness. Who pays ? We do; the consumers that pay for the increasingly overpriced product. If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time When that happens colleges and conferences will have no identity and they will be using endowment money to fund an even crazier arms race that they are over leveraged on already Yep. The Age of the Kardashians coming to college sports....can't wait for the on-line opportunities. I have absolutely no idea what this means. Is the implication here that athletes appearing in advertisements for money is somehow related to the "Age of the Kardashians"?
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Post by MisterD on Oct 1, 2019 9:04:24 GMT -5
Man, you're entitled to your opinion, but I have to say this is almost incomprehensible to me. You can deal with all of the corruption now, while coaches and administrators and schools reap huge profits, but if the players start to see a tiny fraction of that money, you're out? Do you want to live in a world where the Rutgers offensive coordinator doesn't make $625K because some of it is now going to the players themselves?
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Post by 23won on Oct 1, 2019 13:02:01 GMT -5
Our legislators are crafting another soda tax. Take the ridiculous state backed spending for stadiums at public schools and allow sports drink and show companies to roll the dice and pay 18 year olds for their likeness. Who pays ? We do; the consumers that pay for the increasingly overpriced product. If this comes to pass, I am out on following college sports. There are plenty of other better things to do with my time When that happens colleges and conferences will have no identity and they will be using endowment money to fund an even crazier arms race that they are over leveraged on already Man, you're entitled to your opinion, but I have to say this is almost incomprehensible to me. You can deal with all of the corruption now, while coaches and administrators and schools reap huge profits, but if the players start to see a tiny fraction of that money, you're out? Yes because there is no way a school like La Salle would ever have a competitive program and every large state school with its already huge advantage would use its resources (including those from the state) to become a minor league farm system for the pros. Why not just let every 18 year old jump to the pros?
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Post by MisterD on Oct 1, 2019 13:21:13 GMT -5
Yes because there is no way a school like La Salle would ever have a competitive program and every large state school with its already huge advantage would use its resources (including those from the state) to become a minor league farm system for the pros. I don't see how a system that would result in all the top prospects going to major conference schools would look tangibly different than the present day system. Its not the 80s anymore, no present-day Lionel Simmons is picking La Salle. Why not just let every 18 year old jump to the pros? ... like they can and do in baseball, tennis, hockey, soccer, golf?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 1, 2019 15:54:21 GMT -5
Schools aren’t paying players. They can sign sponsorship and licensing deals.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 1, 2019 16:27:14 GMT -5
Which means boosters will be paying the players instead of the schools which is the real crux of the complaints. Every dollar that goes to a player is a dollar that doesn't go to the 3rd weight room upgrade in the last ten years.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 2, 2019 10:29:54 GMT -5
Its not the 80s anymore, no present-day Lionel Simmons is picking La Salle. I seem to recall a first team All American and NCAA scoring leader picking Davidson in the past decade....
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Post by hoopsguest on Oct 2, 2019 11:36:53 GMT -5
Its not the 80s anymore, no present-day Lionel Simmons is picking La Salle. I seem to recall a first team All American and NCAA scoring leader picking Davidson in the past decade.... He had little to no offers. Wanted VA Tech but Greenberg didn't offer a scholarship. Wasn't Lionel heavily recruited?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 2, 2019 11:50:52 GMT -5
Using Curry is results oriented analysis. He was a two star recruit.
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Post by 23won on Oct 2, 2019 11:51:56 GMT -5
Mr D obviously has no faith in Ash
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Post by gymrat67 on Oct 2, 2019 12:14:40 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Oct 2, 2019 12:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 2, 2019 13:04:06 GMT -5
I seem to recall a first team All American and NCAA scoring leader picking Davidson in the past decade.... He had little to no offers. Wanted VA Tech but Greenberg didn't offer a scholarship. Wasn't Lionel heavily recruited? Not heavily. In fact...Villanova passed on him because they already had Barry Bekkedam in his position. What a mistake that turned out to be for Rollie.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 2, 2019 14:29:14 GMT -5
Lionel was a late bloomer, but pretty highly regarded by the end of his high school career. mopped the floor with bekkedam during their senior seasons, but Nova had already recruited over him. I think Lionel wanted to play for Temple, but Chaney thought he was too much of a tweener. They really don't make players like Lionel anymore. He was comfortable operating in all the in between nooks and crannies on the floor that most modern players are terrified to be in. Just had an unbelievable knack for scoring anywhere from 5 to 18 feet (either facing up or backing down) and became a pretty damn good 3-pt shooter by the time he was done, too
La Salle is already pretty overwhelmed by the state of the current playing field. There's PLENTY of players who would have loved to play for us in recent years but they simply can't pass up the cost of attendance benefits at the bigger state schools.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 2, 2019 15:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by 23won on Oct 3, 2019 19:21:33 GMT -5
Another meaningless post by Mr D. I do have faith that Ash will recruit several Lionels in his tenure. Great Guy who players will get, then we will win more and then he will get his Lionel’s. Trust the process. Don’t trust the Mr. D...ipsh!ts of the world
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Post by MisterD on Oct 3, 2019 20:20:42 GMT -5
If Coach Howard recruits several college HoF lottery picks here, you name my penance.
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Post by calsufan on Oct 4, 2019 11:51:15 GMT -5
I have to agree with MisterD here. Lionel was a generational player. Guys like that rarely come to La Salle anymore regardless of who the coach is. The recruiting landscape was a hell of a lot different back then when compared to today. Two things that I have a problem with regarding your statement, 23won. Several players of Lionel's caliber are HIGHLY unlikely to play here over Ash's tenure. And that brings me to the second problem. Ash may be lucky to recruit one generational player to come to La Salle, but he will not be here long enough to recruit several even if he could. This job is a stepping stone. We have him as a coach until he's successful for a few years, then he's gone.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 4, 2019 12:10:59 GMT -5
And to be clear, I think that's fine. Expecting a 5 star to come or expecting a coach who can recruit 5 stars into the A-10 to stay isn't realistic, just enjoy any success we find.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 4, 2019 18:55:58 GMT -5
This job is a stepping stone. This job hasn't been a stepping stone for any coach since Paul Westhead who left 40 years ago for the Lakers. After that, no coach left with a better gig.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 4, 2019 20:08:50 GMT -5
This job is a stepping stone. This job hasn't been a stepping stone for any coach since Paul Westhead who left 40 years ago for the Lakers. After that, no coach left with a better gig. And westhead actually left for an assistant job with the lakers. Only got the head job after mckinney’s Bike accident
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Post by gymrat67 on Oct 29, 2019 18:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Oct 29, 2019 19:17:26 GMT -5
I too worry what other unpaid labor in a massive revenue generating industry will be next.
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Post by weston2 on Oct 29, 2019 20:45:02 GMT -5
And what have the colleges given up or shared.....still will be making gobs of money, probably more. So you still have the same premise. Now it will be a recruiting tool.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 30, 2019 6:00:32 GMT -5
The biggest question to me is how taxes on both ends are going to play into this. Are schools going to employ CPAs for these students?
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Post by weston2 on Oct 30, 2019 8:04:25 GMT -5
The biggest question to me is how taxes on both ends are going to play into this. Are schools going to employ CPAs for these students? Who cares......Meanwhile the real students mortgage their futures. Why are we so concerned over these athletes that have all these benefits and no debt. They have it good. That's a very nice compensation package....100k-200k plus for 2 - 4 or more years for athletic prowess.
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