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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 10, 2015 11:07:13 GMT -5
uhhhh who cares?
If anything college basketball has taught me it is things are constantly changing always in each program.
Result at the end of the day is Lewis is gone and JOHNNIE HERE!
Most of us are okay with it.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 10, 2015 11:13:30 GMT -5
Ah, the beauty of no gap in between "hypothesis" and "stating as fact". I don't give a shit whether you believe me or not. This was told to me first hand by a member of the coaching staff. Pretty sure he was talking to Steve.
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Post by calsufan on Jul 10, 2015 11:19:30 GMT -5
I don't give a shit whether you believe me or not. This was told to me first hand by a member of the coaching staff. Pretty sure he was talking to Steve. Yep. That was my read on it as well.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 10, 2015 11:24:14 GMT -5
Thirded.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 11:54:01 GMT -5
Sorry for the overreaction.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 10, 2015 13:21:19 GMT -5
Sorry for the overreaction. Only if we all could be as knowledgeable as explorer steve Got to be coming up on the anniversary of the death of lasalleexplorers.com RIP
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Post by MisterD on Jul 10, 2015 14:15:49 GMT -5
You forgot the dash. The dash was and always will be the key.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jul 12, 2015 9:02:42 GMT -5
I will miss him, particularly his D. But if it is more playing time he is looking for he might be a better fit at a school like Rider. I thought Rider at first too, but they don't seem to be a great fit for him. Their starting backcourt (two of their top three scorers) and first backcourt sub all return. Gotsha, thanks Mac.
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 13, 2015 11:05:00 GMT -5
Tripping to Iona tomorrow:
Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein · 10m10 minutes ago La Salle transfer Khalid Lewis told @cbssports he plans to visit Iona on Tuesday. Immediately eligible. Started 18 games last season.
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Post by sweat83 on Jul 13, 2015 11:15:02 GMT -5
Not a bad gig (Iona). Pretty good program. Not sure what their roster is like, but Khalid should be able to compete fairly well against MAAC level competition if he decides to go there. I guess, where ever there is a place to fill a need, is where he will end up.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jul 13, 2015 11:47:28 GMT -5
Tripping to Iona tomorrow: Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein · 10m10 minutes ago La Salle transfer Khalid Lewis told @cbssports he plans to visit Iona on Tuesday. Immediately eligible. Started 18 games last season. For being a one year, rent a player, I have no clue why somebody would rather start for a MAAC team, than be a rotation player for a decent A10 team. I mean, we aren't Fordham, we're basically a mid-level, mediocre A10 team, but aside from a Sienna circa 2008-2009, we're still on better ground that the MAAC. With a 4 guard offense, Lewis was still looking at 20 minutes a game. Why abandon that for a program such as Iona?
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 13, 2015 11:57:30 GMT -5
Tripping to Iona tomorrow: Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein · 10m10 minutes ago La Salle transfer Khalid Lewis told @cbssports he plans to visit Iona on Tuesday. Immediately eligible. Started 18 games last season. For being a one year, rent a player, I have no clue why somebody would rather start for a MAAC team, than be a rotation player for a decent A10 team. I mean, we aren't Fordham, we're basically a mid-level, mediocre A10 team, but aside from a Sienna circa 2008-2009, we're still on better ground that the MAAC. With a 4 guard offense, Lewis was still looking at 20 minutes a game. Why abandon that for a program such as Iona? It comes down to playing time. He is going to go where he can play more minutes than he would have gotten here. This is a microcosm of what kids are looking for today.
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Post by coqui900 on Jul 13, 2015 12:51:59 GMT -5
Benefit for Iona: They play one of the fastest tempos in D-1. That equals better stats for selling yourself to pro teams after college is over.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jul 13, 2015 13:04:56 GMT -5
Benefit for Iona: They play one of the fastest tempos in D-1. That equals better stats for selling yourself to pro teams after college is over. Aren't we planning to play fast this season?
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Jul 13, 2015 13:22:22 GMT -5
All I know is I'd rather see a soph Johnnie Shuler get a lot more minutes than have a fifth year Khalid Lewis get a lot of playing time with the ball in his possession too much. (and I don't dislike Lewis' effort - that's just the way I saw it last year).
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Post by 23won on Jul 13, 2015 13:56:46 GMT -5
I can't get too worked up about the loss of these stats over two years where he was given ample time to produce.
Min. FG% 3% PPG 27.5 2.2-6.0 .374 0.6-1.9 .328 0.9-1.4 .617 2.0 2.2 0.2 1.0 1.7 1.6 6.0 14.1 1.0-3.7 .262 0.2-1.0 .207 0.8-1.0 .793 1.1 0.9 0.0 0.6 2.0 1.2 3.0
I think whoever fills up the 27.5 minutes of KL's time this year (Johnnie and to a lesser extent more minutes for Amar and Cleon) will be both more productive and better for team chemistry.
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Post by jellybean on Jul 13, 2015 13:59:18 GMT -5
Lewis averaged 27.5 minutes per game in 2014-15. So what if you only average 24-25 minutes per game?
I was asked by a friend an interesting question the other day. How much upside did Lewis have in his game vs Stukes or Shuler? In stock market parlance was Lewis a buy, sell or hold? I say hold.
Anyway good luck to Lewis. I hope he finds that major that he couldn't get at La Salle.
Another question, with all these 5th year transfers how many got that degree? I can only think of one. Gavin Hunt from La Salle. Anyone know about others?
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Post by MisterD on Jul 13, 2015 14:26:22 GMT -5
For being a one year, rent a player, I have no clue why somebody would rather start for a MAAC team, than be a rotation player for a decent A10 team. I mean, we aren't Fordham, we're basically a mid-level, mediocre A10 team, but aside from a Sienna circa 2008-2009, we're still on better ground that the MAAC. I assume its basically the same reason a guy would rather get big time minutes at a mid-major instead of being a rotation players at Rutgers or South Carolina or Virginia Tech or Auburn or Syracuse or Memphis or South Carolina (again).
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Post by talkinbball on Jul 13, 2015 15:13:24 GMT -5
IMHO, This year is going to be all about player development. Given that, any minutes that Lewis got were not contributing to the goal. He was a player without a position. Not a good enough shooter to be a 2 guard and not a good enough distributor to play the point in the A10. Best for all sides that he moved along.
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Post by mookie on Jul 13, 2015 18:09:21 GMT -5
Lewis averaged 27.5 minutes per game in 2014-15. So what if you only average 24-25 minutes per game? I was asked by a friend an interesting question the other day. How much upside did Lewis have in his game vs Stukes or Shuler? In stock market parlance was Lewis a buy, sell or hold? I say hold. Anyway good luck to Lewis. I hope he finds that major that he couldn't get at La Salle. Another question, with all these 5th year transfers how many got that degree? I can only think of one. Gavin Hunt from La Salle. Anyone know about others? I sold Lewis a long time ago (not to be funny). He plays hard and decent defense. Offensively he brought little to the table which really regulates him to a role player with limited minutes (10-15 max). He had ball handling abilities but can't run a team. He did not make others better. He was only good offensively when others were able to pick his game up, or when others were doing so bad that he didn't look as bad. I don't see any situation where this team "misses" him unless all of our guards foul out or injuries deplete the team. Outside of those extreme cases, this team needs time to play and develop. Wish him the best at whatever school he ends up at hopefully he's able to get what he wants (PT, tourney appearance, etc).
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 13, 2015 18:38:04 GMT -5
Lewis was not a strong offensive player or particular good at the point. Stukes wasn't very good at the point last season either but obviously he is only a freshmen and has time to develop. We may not miss Lewis too much on the offensive end but defensively he was our best guard. I would never discount his defense. Game after game Lewis was put on the opposing team strongest guard and did a pretty good job. I don't think we are any better or worse without him. I don't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that he affected the team's chemistry.
I think Lewis transfer is important to our younger guys development but on the defensive end I will definitely miss him and hopefully he taught our other guards a thing or two. At the end of the day Stukes and Shuler are our guards of the future but I rather have Khalid Lewis as opposed to Karl Harris off the bench.
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Post by 23won on Jul 14, 2015 7:54:46 GMT -5
I think folks are overhyping KL's defensive abilities. He did do a good job containing drives at times but he frequently over extended his body and feet leaving him vulnerable. The lack of balance in his footwork is why he couldn't steal the ball more frequently and he often played back off ball so I never saw him jump a passing Lane for a steal and run out. Lots of movement, looks good on tape but didn't produce that much on the steal front to make him a great defender as some say here. I think Amar was more effective defensively and generated far more turnovers by opposing guards.
Having said that I do wish him good luck wherever he lands. Against MAAC level opponents he should be far more effective on both ends if the floor and if that helps him land something professionally I hope that helps him. I think a gaudy stat will generate more pro interest and I didn't see much of an uptick offensively for him in his final A10 season so I do think this is a really good change for him and us.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 14, 2015 9:18:30 GMT -5
I think folks are underhyping Lewis in general because he just transferred. In fact, I'd bet a lot of the same people listing endless flaws and giving all of this downside analysis right now would probably argue vehemently against those same flaws if he were staying for his senior season. One-sided takedowns of a guy leaving on seemingly amicable terms aren't a great look. In my opinion, of course.
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Post by calsufan on Jul 14, 2015 9:29:49 GMT -5
I think folks are underhyping Lewis in general because he just transferred. In fact, I'd bet a lot of the same people listing endless flaws and giving all of this downside analysis right now would probably argue vehemently against those same flaws if he were staying for his senior season. One-sided takedowns of a guy leaving on seemingly amicable terms aren't a great look. In my opinion, of course. I've had the same thoughts over the last few days as well. Is Lewis a world-beater? Certainly not; however, I do think his D will be sorely missed.
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Post by lwc4591 on Jul 14, 2015 9:51:04 GMT -5
Believe it will cost the team a little this season but helps out for following two seasons with Stukes, Shuler and Harris getting valuable additional minutes. On paper the 2016/2017 and 2017/2018 teams look very strong with the right blend of talent,size and experience. My biggest concern down the road is after the 2017/2018 season when we graduate six seniors.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 14, 2015 9:59:00 GMT -5
Wow, I hadn't looked at how our roster was staggered. Potential to be our most talented graduating class in (atleast recent to mid-range) history.
Of course, if we keep up Transfer U., we'll be fine.
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Post by coachd on Jul 14, 2015 10:10:23 GMT -5
Wow, I hadn't looked at how our roster was staggered. Potential to be our most talented graduating class in (atleast recent to mid-range) history. Of course, if we keep up Transfer U., we'll be fine. We'll take your destitute and hungry... so long as they can achieve greatness inside the rectangle containing two baskets... And it helps if they are from a major conference and want more playing time.
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Post by 23won on Jul 14, 2015 11:05:55 GMT -5
I think folks are underhyping Lewis in general because he just transferred. In fact, I'd bet a lot of the same people listing endless flaws and giving all of this downside analysis right now would probably argue vehemently against those same flaws if he were staying for his senior season. One-sided takedowns of a guy leaving on seemingly amicable terms aren't a great look. In my opinion, of course. Sorry, but I disagree. Was never a fan. I've had a number of posts the last two years when he was on the roster. The biggest negative combo that G rolled out was KL and DJ. Really looking forward to seeing what our first and second year players can do this year. I am optimistic but not unrealistic. Really looking forward to the 16-17 season for obvious reasons and am glad more PT is available for Stukes and Shuler this coming season. IMO, this is definitiely a positive.
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Post by mookie on Jul 14, 2015 11:10:27 GMT -5
I think folks are underhyping Lewis in general because he just transferred. In fact, I'd bet a lot of the same people listing endless flaws and giving all of this downside analysis right now would probably argue vehemently against those same flaws if he were staying for his senior season. One-sided takedowns of a guy leaving on seemingly amicable terms aren't a great look. In my opinion, of course. In many instances, I will agree with you on people pointing out a player's flaws upon leaving. But I wasn't big on DJ when he said he was transferring and my thoughts didn't change on him when he decided to stay. Same goes for Lewis...I don't see him as a player that really makes much of a difference out there. I won't notice he's gone nor do I believe (and have said numerous times before) that he's a player that should be getting many minutes at this level. Maybe on another/lower level he'll be fine but it was obvious to me and a few others that that level is not the A10.
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 14, 2015 11:27:34 GMT -5
All I know is tht we would have almost certainly lost two games against quinnipiac and American if not for KL's hustle in the closing minute. He is disruptive and tenacious. Offense left some wanting but he improved there last year.
It's just too bad he didn't have any games for us like he had against us.
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