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Post by calsufan on Mar 30, 2015 11:38:18 GMT -5
If Grant gives the ball up, does any one else think that ND gets a WIDE insane look being that he had 3 defenders on him? Or does the pass get tipped or picked off, and ND never gets a shot off? I don't know, but there were 6 seconds left, and that's a good amount of time to go the length of the court (figure 3 or 4 seconds), get a pass off, followed by the shot. On this play, you want to get the ball into the middle, not run the sideline. He ran all the way in the corner. There was never a doubt in his mind he was going to take that shot. He had a terrible second half. Vasturia should have been the option as he is the most cerebral player on that team. The second Grant was doubled he should have given it up. I don't know if it was stupid basketball or hero ball, but the minute I saw him heading for the corner I knew he was in trouble. You either give it to Vasturia or Connaughton for the 3. That or you drive right down the middle. That game was ND's right up to the end. One of the best basketball games I've seen in a long time.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 30, 2015 11:39:54 GMT -5
Agree on it being a good game. ND got away from what was successful and that is why they lost.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 30, 2015 11:44:14 GMT -5
I'm with you. ND was the team that had a shot at beating Kentucky. I think Kentucky beats Wisconsin by 10 points at the very least. Why? After the way Wisconsin shot the ball...why? Watching Wisconsin play, they just don't seem dominate to me. I saw Wisconsin play Michigan State in their conference tournament and they had a tough time with them. Michigan state isn't a bad team, but they're certainly no Kentucky. And as lunatic said, I think the ND game was a wake up call for Kentucky.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 30, 2015 11:52:53 GMT -5
Why? After the way Wisconsin shot the ball...why? Watching Wisconsin play, they just don't seem dominate to me. I saw Wisconsin play Michigan State in their conference tournament and they had a tough time with them. Michigan state isn't a bad team, but they're certainly no Kentucky. And as lunatic said, I think the ND game was a wake up call for Kentucky. I agree it was a wake up call, but offensively there is Aaron Harrison, Devin Booker and Karl-Anthony Towns. Wisconsin has the size (maybe not the strength) to match up. Kaminsky - 7'0 - 42% from 3. Dekker - 6'9 - 34% from 3 (but 50% over last four. 5-6 the other night) Nigel Hayes - 6'7 - 38% from 3. I think the question should be how is Kentucky gonna guard those guys, not the other way around. The Wildcats have shown that they are not a great offensive team. They value defense and score off of blocks and bad possessions. Wisco doesn't have many of them.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 30, 2015 12:00:05 GMT -5
I wish this game were the finals and not the semis. This is going to be a stylistic contrast, next game (assuming Kentucky advances) is going to be some idiotic morality play.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 30, 2015 12:01:23 GMT -5
I wish this game were the finals and not the semis. This is going to be a stylistic contrast, next game (assuming Kentucky advances) is going to be some idiotic morality play. Yeah. My heart wants Wisconsin vs Michigan State. My wallet wants Wisconsin vs. Duke. My head thinks Kentucky vs. Duke. Such is life.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 30, 2015 15:49:38 GMT -5
I wish this game were the finals and not the semis. This is going to be a stylistic contrast, next game (assuming Kentucky advances) is going to be some idiotic morality play. I think the Kentucky - ND game was the Championship game. I don't think the remaining 3 games will be nearly as good as that game. Definitely a classic.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 30, 2015 16:28:49 GMT -5
I'm with you. ND was the team that had a shot at beating Kentucky. I think Kentucky beats Wisconsin by 10 points at the very least. Why? After the way Wisconsin shot the ball...why? Because shooting like that can't be sustained, that's why I like having a few shooters on the team, but I want my offense based around ball movement and player movement...when you base an offense off 3 point shooting, it can't be sustained. Look at ND. They only knocked down 4 treys on Saturday night. If they shoot the 3 ball well, they win going away. As it is, they hung with Kentucky.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 30, 2015 16:30:39 GMT -5
Why? After the way Wisconsin shot the ball...why? Because shooting like that can't be sustained, that's why I like having a few shooters on the team, but I want my offense based around ball movement and player movement...when you base an offense off 3 point shooting, it can't be sustained. Have you watched Wisconsin play? That is all they do.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 31, 2015 10:07:35 GMT -5
Joe, I watched Duke destroy Wisconsin a few months back, in Madison. Kentucky is a higher octane, deeper, Duke.
All I do is sell cars, work a part time job on the weekend nights, take care of my 3 year old daughter and girlfriend, and watch basketball (college and pro). My better half can't stand this time of year, because I'm glued to the TV. Next week, college hoops are done, and baseball starts, in a few weeks, the NBA playoffs start...how much baseball I watch depends on how dreadful the Phillies are, so take it FWIW.
I don't bowl anymore, I don't coach anymore, (the sacrifice of having young children,) so watching and gambling on sports are all I have left, until I give the gambling up. We'll see.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 31, 2015 10:39:17 GMT -5
Joe, I watched Duke destroy Wisconsin a few months back, in Madison. Kentucky is a higher octane, deeper, Duke. All I do is sell cars, work a part time job on the weekend nights, take care of my 3 year old daughter and girlfriend, and watch basketball (college and pro). My better half can't stand this time of year, because I'm glued to the TV. Next week, college hoops are done, and baseball starts, in a few weeks, the NBA playoffs start... how much baseball I watch depends on how dreadful the Phillies are, so take it FWIW. I don't bowl anymore, I don't coach anymore, (the sacrifice of having young children,) so watching and gambling on sports are all I have left, until I give the gambling up. We'll see. The Phillies won't just be dreadful, they'll be atrocious, brutal, a train wreck and irrelevant. And that's all by the end of April. Amaro needs to go.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 31, 2015 10:42:50 GMT -5
As a not-Phillies fan, I'm pretty excited for the inevitable explosion over the equally inevitable "Hamels is dealing with some arm soreness" announcement.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 31, 2015 12:00:43 GMT -5
As a not-Phillies fan, I'm pretty excited for the inevitable explosion over the equally inevitable "Hamels is dealing with some arm soreness" announcement. Yeah, that'll come eventually. This is going to be a miserable team for at least 4 years. Their farm system is just as big a mess.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 31, 2015 12:26:10 GMT -5
It's a fucking mess. Why didn't they fix Cliff Lee's arm with surgery last July, he would've been ready for this season. As it stands, they shut him down until November, which didn't do a damn thing. His arm was sore during the first week of throwing, which means his injury was never healed.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 31, 2015 12:33:04 GMT -5
Yeah, that'll come eventually. This is going to be a miserable team for at least 4 years. Their farm system is just as big a mess. Peak Amaro would be the Phillies in second (20 games behind Washington) in June and trading off Crawford in an attempt to get a wild card and save his job. That would be so much fun.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 4, 2015 20:03:26 GMT -5
Duke is rolling in this tourney, don't sleep on them
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 4, 2015 20:22:27 GMT -5
Duke is rolling in this tourney, don't sleep on them Thanks for getting us back to topic.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 4, 2015 22:34:35 GMT -5
Duke winning would be really anticlimactic.
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Post by stlexplorer on Apr 4, 2015 23:04:03 GMT -5
I gotta say the officials in the UK/Wisconsin game were atrocious from both teams perspectives
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Post by calsufan on Apr 4, 2015 23:27:48 GMT -5
I gotta say the officials in the UK/Wisconsin game were atrocious from both teams perspectives I agree. The calls and non-calls down the stretch were bad for both sides.
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Post by calsufan on Apr 4, 2015 23:29:41 GMT -5
I really didn't think Wisconsin could beat Kentucky. Looks like I was wrong. The game was really good (although I thought the Kentucky - ND game was a little bit better) even though the officiating was bad down the stretch.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 5, 2015 7:13:28 GMT -5
I gotta say the officials in the UK/Wisconsin game were atrocious from both teams perspectives So bad calls on both sides. The non-shot clock violation was probably the biggest from a game changing perspective, but how can they look at that punch that was thrown and not call at least a flagrant one. Raf and the other announcers didn't think it was a Flagrant two, but all agreed that something was going to be called. Then it wasn't. And there was no explanation (which does happen at times). I thought it was more on the border of flagrant 1 vs flagrant 2 than flagrant one vs nothing. Justice won out in the end.
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Post by jellybean on Apr 5, 2015 7:33:31 GMT -5
By my recollection at least 4 of the referees assigned to the Final Four and Championship did La Salle games this year.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 5, 2015 9:29:13 GMT -5
I think Duke is a bad matchup for Wisconsin...
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 5, 2015 9:42:07 GMT -5
I think Duke is a bad matchup for Wisconsin... Works both ways. Sam Dekker is a bad matchup for anyone. Okafor can cover Kaminsky outside of 10 feet, but I think he'll struggle in the post. Kaminsky is very shifty. Wisconsin's guards didn't have a great night last night. Gasser and Koenig struggled to get good shots up against Kentucky's length. Duke isn't nearly as long.
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Post by lasalle89 on Apr 5, 2015 10:04:22 GMT -5
I am rooting for Wisconsin but Dukes defense is on another level. So tired of the same teams in the final 4. Wisconsin hasn't won it since the 40's and Bo Ryan is from Chester so let's go Wisconsin!!!!
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Post by jellybean on Apr 5, 2015 10:32:16 GMT -5
By my recollection at least 4 of the referees assigned to the Final Four and Championship did La Salle games this year. Interesting tweet that Jeff Goodman has about what an NBA Executive thought of the best of the best. People get upset when comments are made about the officiating we see game after game. Maybe there's reason. Jeff GoodmanVerified account ?@goodmanespn One NBA executive. "The refs make NBA refs look pristine -- which is saying something."
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Post by luhoopsfan on Apr 6, 2015 22:20:17 GMT -5
Great game tonight
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Apr 6, 2015 22:33:29 GMT -5
Duke just quietly buzzsawed thru the tourney with 8 scholarship players, 4 of which are freshmen...
I can't stand Duke, but that kid Grayson had some sack tonight...some big stones.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 6, 2015 22:37:02 GMT -5
If a couple of those freshmen turn pro, they're mercenaries and Coach K is really evil and terrible and awful and all that Calipari stuff, right?
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