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Post by calidelphia on Mar 20, 2015 23:59:18 GMT -5
Anyone still up and see what the tech on providence coach was for? I heard he smacked a chair. No joke.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 21, 2015 0:12:04 GMT -5
He knocked it over during a timeout...the ref really must've wanted to seal the game away, as Dayton was up 8 with 3 minutes to play...not a good call. Props to Dayton for showing up tonight, let's get OU on Sunday.
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Post by calidelphia on Mar 21, 2015 1:35:48 GMT -5
So to clear this up, unlike Villanova, We are all on the dayton train considering we beat them and are by default in the second round of the tournament now. correct?
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 21, 2015 8:15:13 GMT -5
Yes - all aboard the Dayton train. Plus, every win means a few more shekels in our NCAA account
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 21, 2015 8:22:15 GMT -5
Archie Miller is such a good coach. If he gets to the Sweet 16 he should be in the highest demand but not a lot of good jobs out there to go to so Dayton gets lucky in keeping him.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 21, 2015 8:35:50 GMT -5
Someone made a valid point earlier - coaching in the A10 isn't lake coaching in the CAA anymore. It's a really good job. I understand you always want to strive for the biggest and best opportunities but in the A10 you may not make as much annually, but generally the leash is longer and the pressure not quite as intense so maybe there's something to that.
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Post by cjprof on Mar 21, 2015 8:46:45 GMT -5
Someone made a valid point earlier - coaching in the A10 isn't lake coaching in the CAA anymore. It's a really good job. I understand you always want to strive for the biggest and best opportunities but in the A10 you may not make as much annually, but generally the leash is longer and the pressure not quite as intense so maybe there's something to that. I tend to agree. After all is said and done the A10 is a comfortable place to work.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 21, 2015 9:20:33 GMT -5
Someone made a valid point earlier - coaching in the A10 isn't lake coaching in the CAA anymore. It's a really good job. I understand you always want to strive for the biggest and best opportunities but in the A10 you may not make as much annually, but generally the leash is longer and the pressure not quite as intense so maybe there's something to that. I tend to agree. After all is said and done the A10 is a comfortable place to work. But guys like Archie Miller. Guys like Sean Miller. They want to coach at the best schools in the country. They want to be Coach K, Boeheim, Calhoun. You don't get to be coaches like that at Dayton (or even Arizona, if you ask me). If Dayton wins Sunday, I think Archie Miller is gone. Maybe not this year, but certainly soon. A Pac-12 / Big 10 team with some prestige will scoop him up, pay him $2M and be done with it. Shaka is in a different scenario. He is getting paid $1.5M in the A10. That is almost twice what the next closest A-10 coach makes and 29th nationally. Archie Miller is making $335k. Jamie Dixon, who makes the NIT every year at Pitt, makes $2.5M. Why is Shaka different? Because VCU has big conference ambitions and money to burn. Oh, and look at this contract. That is comfortable AND lucrative. It is one thing to have 1/2 of those two, but having both makes it a lifetime job.
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Post by jellybean on Mar 21, 2015 9:55:04 GMT -5
Anyone know where Martelli stands? According to their board, I thought his package including deferred comp is in the $1-2m range.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 21, 2015 10:00:14 GMT -5
Anyone know where Martelli stands? According to their board, I thought his package including deferred comp is in the $1-2m range. Listed at roughly $950k.
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Post by explorerman on Mar 21, 2015 10:39:25 GMT -5
Didn't Archie get an extension after last year's run? $335k seems low. We all know about the performance bonuses that the coaches get.
Dayton could afford much more. Those additional funds generated that last couple years certainly will help.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 21, 2015 11:46:40 GMT -5
355K looks wrong for Miller. Purnelll was making in the high 600K range when he left if I remember correctly and that was like 10 years ago.
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Post by wacky on Mar 21, 2015 11:49:45 GMT -5
Davidson shot 6 for 28 on three pointers against Iowa. If they had shot like that against us, we win by 20. Davidson's coach said Iowa's defense hurt their three-point shooting, but they managed to get off 28. I can't imagine their defense was that much better than ours, and they made 14, including five straight when we tried to pull away in the second half.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 21, 2015 14:30:57 GMT -5
That's the problem with taking 28 3's...you're either going to shoot your way to a win, or bury yourself in a bad loss...
Kentucky vs. the field, who you got?
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Post by 23won on Mar 21, 2015 15:47:04 GMT -5
I really enjoyed watching the Davidson game. They had impartial zebras who called all the slaps and pushes they do on a regular basis and get away with in A10 play, especially against us. Kalinoski got 3 fouls with 8 left in the first half. Barham and their two bigs had fouls early. It definitely affected their play. If we had last night's refs in Brooklyn we would have won by 20. Definitely got hosed there. As I said in the A10 tourney thread.
.[/quote]I agree. Â I may post another thread on this.
Davidson slapped and contested almost every defensive rebound that was clearly hauled down by us with possession and they pushed a lot when we had the ball on the offensive blocks down low. The refs ignored almost all of that contact and we wind up with 16 PFs and they had 11 PFs
Glad they got last night what was overdue against us in Brooklyn.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 21, 2015 18:51:34 GMT -5
I think the fact that Iowa was so much bigger than Davidson is what really hurt them. Their length was really giving them problems. Davidson also got crushed on the boards by 16.
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Post by explorerman on Mar 22, 2015 11:41:05 GMT -5
fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/davidson-basketballs-sixth-man-the-math-department/If you aren't familiar with Bayes Theorem, you really should.. It has been out for several years now but conditional probability is not that difficult to understand. I read the NYTimes article on it but this article goes into more detail. Makes me respect Bob even more, you know the coach is top notch (we saw it our season finale) but he is humble and does enough self-analysis to know that he should get help anywhere he can. In addition to being a forward thinker and understanding the role of analytics can provide the extra "2%", or whatever you wanna call, in a team's overall performance.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 22, 2015 12:27:03 GMT -5
fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/davidson-basketballs-sixth-man-the-math-department/If you aren't familiar with Bayes Theorem, you really should.. It has been out for several years now but conditional probability is not that difficult to understand. I read the NYTimes article on it but this article goes into more detail. Makes me respect Bob even more, you know the coach is top notch (we saw it our season finale) but he is humble and does enough self-analysis to know that he should get help anywhere he can. In addition to being a forward thinker and understanding the role of analytics can provide the extra "2%", or whatever you wanna call, in a team's overall performance. NPR did a piece last week on Davidson and their math geeks. It was pretty interesting (and complimentary).
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 13:48:13 GMT -5
fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/davidson-basketballs-sixth-man-the-math-department/If you aren't familiar with Bayes Theorem, you really should.. It has been out for several years now but conditional probability is not that difficult to understand. I read the NYTimes article on it but this article goes into more detail. Makes me respect Bob even more, you know the coach is top notch (we saw it our season finale) but he is humble and does enough self-analysis to know that he should get help anywhere he can. In addition to being a forward thinker and understanding the role of analytics can provide the extra "2%", or whatever you wanna call, in a team's overall performance. I look at analytics as additional information, but I don't live and die with them like Sam Hinkle and other stat geeks. When the A's start having success in the playoffs (like win 1 playoff series) I will buy into it a little bit. I'm not saying that I'm full on, Larry Brown school of thought, but I will say that midrange jumpers have a place in the game of basketball.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 13:51:22 GMT -5
UVA went down again today... They can't play from behind. If you can't score, you can win in the NCAA tourney. So much for the Nova-UVA match up...maybe they can set up an exhibition game next week at the Ski Lodge.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 22, 2015 14:05:13 GMT -5
fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/davidson-basketballs-sixth-man-the-math-department/If you aren't familiar with Bayes Theorem, you really should.. It has been out for several years now but conditional probability is not that difficult to understand. I read the NYTimes article on it but this article goes into more detail. Makes me respect Bob even more, you know the coach is top notch (we saw it our season finale) but he is humble and does enough self-analysis to know that he should get help anywhere he can. In addition to being a forward thinker and understanding the role of analytics can provide the extra "2%", or whatever you wanna call, in a team's overall performance. I look at analytics as additional information, but I don't live and die with them like Sam Hinkle and other stat geeks. When the A's start having success in the playoffs (like win 1 playoff series) I will buy into it a little bit. I'm not saying that I'm full on, Larry Brown school of thought, but I will say that midrange jumpers have a place in the game of basketball. The Red Sox credit analytics with helping them win.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 14:22:10 GMT -5
I look at analytics as additional information, but I don't live and die with them like Sam Hinkle and other stat geeks. When the A's start having success in the playoffs (like win 1 playoff series) I will buy into it a little bit. I'm not saying that I'm full on, Larry Brown school of thought, but I will say that midrange jumpers have a place in the game of basketball. The Red Sox credit analytics with helping them win. They also spend more money than any team not wearing blue pinstripes playing in NYC.
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Post by calidelphia on Mar 22, 2015 14:56:48 GMT -5
Sdsu getting thumped by duke. Okafor is without a doubt the correct pick or poy. #1 pick.
Sdsu finally switched it up on d and closed the gap towards the end of the half but the shots are still not falling. They need shrigley and kell to start hitting from outside.
Also interesting that the whole team got a stomach bug while staying in NC. Just sayin' #dukealumsgivecompetitorsfoodpoisoning
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 14:59:24 GMT -5
Sdsu getting thumped by duke. Okafor is without a doubt the correct pick or poy. #1 pick. Sdsu finally switched it up on d and closed the gap towards the end of the half but the shots are still not falling. They need shrigley and kell to start hitting from outside. Also interesting that the whole team got a stomach bug while staying in NC. Just sayin' #dukealumsgivecompetitorsfoodpoisoning I would definitely order meals under an anonymous name...
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 15:48:37 GMT -5
Just saw the biggest flop ever in the dayton-kentucky women's game. The charge-block call is a blocking foul 9 times out of 10. Yes I'm commenting on women's hoops, but I'm at Buffalo Wild Wings, and this Duke game is a blow out.
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 22, 2015 16:27:28 GMT -5
Let's go shockers!!!!
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 16:48:43 GMT -5
The refs in the Wichita St-Kansas game are brutal. They are letting these teams hammer each other.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 22, 2015 17:32:22 GMT -5
The refs in the Wichita St-Kansas game are brutal. They are letting these teams hammer each other. As opposed to the UVA / Mich St game where everything was a foul.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 22, 2015 18:15:11 GMT -5
The refs in the Wichita St-Kansas game are brutal. They are letting these teams hammer each other. As opposed to the UVA / Mich St game where everything was a foul. Wichita State is pecker slapping Kansas right now.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 22, 2015 18:53:12 GMT -5
The Red Sox credit analytics with helping them win. They also spend more money than any team not wearing blue pinstripes playing in NYC. I don't disagree with that. Money helps...as long as it's spent wisely.
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