MisterD
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 9:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by glorydays on Jul 15, 2013 9:24:41 GMT -5
"Because he graduated in the spring, Murray could transfer to another school and play immediately..."
Looks like a perfect candidate for Ole Miss...
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 15, 2013 9:29:12 GMT -5
@franfraschilla: Aaric Murray dismissed from WVU. Some players may be worth the headaches. Sadly, he wasn't talented enough to be worth it--even for Huggs.
The grass keeps getting greener.
How he got thrown off a team with two scumbags like that coaching is amazing. No worries
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 15, 2013 9:43:46 GMT -5
Well we could use another big....
Seriously though, for Bub Huggins to kick you off his team could only mean 1 of 2 things:
1. You committed an act so egregious that even Huggy Bear couldn't ignore it or 2. He committed some kind of minor transgression, but Huggins had decided he had no further use for him as a player and let him fall on the sword.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 9:53:45 GMT -5
3. Mutual? WVU wants to start over and a selfish 23 (or whatever) year old senior eating 30 minutes per game isn't worth it plus Aaric going back down to mid-major and hoping to dominate is his last shot?
That's the nice version, but I guess its possible.
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 15, 2013 10:03:58 GMT -5
@goodmanespn: I honestly thought Bob Huggins would be ideal for Aaric Murray. Obviously didn't work out. If Huggs can't handle him, no one can.
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 15, 2013 10:05:49 GMT -5
Insider sources tell me Aaric asked if Huggins or Hahn had any suits/ties or liked looking like they just rolled out of bed during games.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 15, 2013 10:05:59 GMT -5
If he does try to use his last year of eligibility, where do we think he goes? I'd assume it would have to be a low-major, considering how late it is in the year, and his previous issues. I'm thinking like a MAAC level school.
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 15, 2013 10:14:18 GMT -5
Language NSFW just to be safe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 10:27:21 GMT -5
Didn't I call how the "grass is always greener" parable was supposed to end? Per the NBC version, it was a "mutual" decision by Murrary and Huggs (that's code language for "he was kicked off the team but we don't want to send a red flag to our future recruits"), and BTW, Giannini's legacy has finally been fully vindicated. collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/15/report-west-virginia-kicks-aaric-murray-off-the-team/Huggins: "We came to a mutual agreement that it would be in his best interest to finish his collegiate career somewhere else."
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 10:44:30 GMT -5
If he does try to use his last year of eligibility, where do we think he goes? I'd assume it would have to be a low-major, considering how late it is in the year, and his previous issues. I'm thinking like a MAAC level school. He has to, right? I can't imagine even the NBDL is an option right now and it doesn't seem like bigs who go overseas ever make it back. Go lower, try to put up a 20-10-5 season while looking like you're changed / give a shit and hope for a 2nd round flyer pick.
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Post by coachd on Jul 15, 2013 11:23:29 GMT -5
Up until a few short years ago G was still naive when it came to recruiting, scheduling and coaching in close games. Thankfully for our program G took advice from coaches who provided the information and knowledge that was needed to get us back into the post-season and build our program back into national prominence.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 11:44:02 GMT -5
Ha ha ha ha you won't ever change, will you? "I was not wrong about G, G just changed his ways to conform with what I'd always wanted him to do and now he's successful."
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Post by coqui900 on Jul 15, 2013 11:53:24 GMT -5
I heard after Aaric left that there was a thought that he suffered from some severe mental health issues. This could really well be the case. Hope he gets his issues taken care of.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 11:54:12 GMT -5
Up until a few short years ago G was still naive when it came to recruiting, scheduling and coaching in close games. Thankfully for our program G took advice from coaches who provided the information and knowledge that was needed to get us back into the post-season and build our program back into national prominence. In the interest of promoting a positive board mentality, my response has been voluntarily deleted.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 15, 2013 12:03:31 GMT -5
Up until a few short years ago G was still naive when it came to recruiting... Thankfully for our program G took advice from coaches who provided the information and knowledge that was needed to get us back into the post-season and build our program back into national prominence. I'm taking Hykos' route, also. Deleted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 12:27:56 GMT -5
Back to the subject at hand. Mr. Murray tweets a cryptic "Mad respect for the support, you others wouldn't even understand. Mad love and respect for my coaches and teammates."
That kind of sentiment is difficult to relate to because he intentionally distances himself from everybody he perceives to be his critics. He claims no responsibility for his actions ever, yet claims "he was there" when WVU was in the big dance (two years ago).
I am truly impressed that he graduated in 4 years despite all of the "time off" and other distractions. I hope he continues to put a positive spin on things, without deceiving himself. He still has a chance to be great.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 15, 2013 12:51:00 GMT -5
I am truly impressed that he graduated in 4 years despite all of the "time off" and other distractions. I hope he continues to put a positive spin on things, without deceiving himself. He still has a chance to be great. Saw the tweet too, made me chuckle. I'm floored about the graduating in 4 years thing. I don't think I ever saw someone mail it in for a course as much as he did, but good on him. This "best for both parties" thing coming from Camp Huggy might be the nail in the coffin though. There were doubts surrounding his maturity the moment he left Glen Mills, and the four years since has only raised more questions.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 13:05:21 GMT -5
I heard after Aaric left that there was a thought that he suffered from some severe mental health issues. This could really well be the case. Hope he gets his issues taken care of. That would be pretty sad. I always assumed it was a case of a kid told in HS he's going to make the league and he believed it was destiny rather than something he had to make happen. I can't imagine the high major microscope is good for a kid dealing with actual issues.
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Post by coachd on Jul 15, 2013 13:16:01 GMT -5
Up until a few short years ago G was still naive when it came to recruiting, scheduling and coaching in close games. Thankfully for our program G took advice from coaches who provided the information and knowledge that was needed to get us back into the post-season and build our program back into national prominence. In the interest of promoting a positive board mentality, my response has been voluntarily deleted. That's cool. The days of "5 for 5 substitions" and "we can win with just guys 6-8 and taller" are over. Those back up my point along with a few others that I won't mention.
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Post by coqui900 on Jul 15, 2013 13:18:02 GMT -5
I heard after Aaric left that there was a thought that he suffered from some severe mental health issues. This could really well be the case. Hope he gets his issues taken care of. That would be pretty sad. I always assumed it was a case of a kid told in HS he's going to make the league and he believed it was destiny rather than something he had to make happen. I can't imagine the high major microscope is good for a kid dealing with actual issues. There's probably that, too, along with who knows how many people influencing him (and telling him to play like KD instead of working it down low). But his incredibly moody, volatile and unpredictable behavior (which extended beyond the basketball court and to his dorm and whoever else) and what he got busted for shows he had a lot of other stuff going on. He's a very confused kid without a strong family support system who went to a school for adjudicated youth. He's blessed with a lot of gifts that pretty much anyone who picked up a basketball would kill to have. However, there's a lot more to life than that. You don't get kicked off a Huggins team, particularly this late in the year, without something major going on. Hopefully he gets his head together. There's a really sad chance he could end up like Luther Wright who went to Seton Hall back in the day.
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 15, 2013 13:57:21 GMT -5
All of a sudden I am conflicted about Murray after reading Coqui's post. I never felt sympathetic towards the guy and always thought it was an ego thing as well.
This from NBC sports:
"Murray becomes the fifth player to transfer out of West Virginia this offseason. Jabarie Hinds, Aaron Brown and Volodymry Gerun all left the program in early April, while Keaton Miles transferred out in May. It’s understandable. After finishing last season under .500, Huggins decided to clean house."
That's so 2011 G.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jul 15, 2013 14:02:21 GMT -5
I am truly impressed that he graduated in 4 years despite all of the "time off" and other distractions. I hope he continues to put a positive spin on things, without deceiving himself. He still has a chance to be great. Saw the tweet too, made me chuckle. I'm floored about the graduating in 4 years thing. I don't think I ever saw someone mail it in for a course as much as he did, but good on him. This "best for both parties" thing coming from Camp Huggy might be the nail in the coffin though. There were doubts surrounding his maturity the moment he left Glen Mills, and the four years since has only raised more questions. I too am pleasantly surprised and tip my hat to Aaric about getting a college degree. His act was extremely hard to take and I was delighted it got cancelled at La Salle....... but thumbs up for finding your way with getting a college degree Aaric that is no small accomplishment.
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Post by 23won on Jul 15, 2013 14:12:12 GMT -5
Unless he is totally toxic (right now I could see him as "essentially toxic"), it wouldn't shock me to see him wind up at a place like Siena.
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 15, 2013 14:13:28 GMT -5
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Post by durenduren on Jul 15, 2013 14:24:21 GMT -5
In the interest of promoting a positive board mentality, my response has been voluntarily deleted. That's cool. The days of "5 for 5 substitions" and "we can win with just guys 6-8 and taller" are over. Those back up my point along with a few others that I won't mention. Stop being a boner. You can't seriously suggest you didn't believe in Aaric Murray too. You predicted an tourney appearance in 09-10 because G's recruiting, largely because of the promise of Aaric. Praise be to Google. But it's okay, we were all fooled until we met the real Aaric. And so was the staff of WVU, St Joes, Nova, Temple, Marquette, and Pittsburgh. But I don't think it's safe to say that Giannini was the only one that bought into him. And I think Giannini's DIII National Championship wants a word with your opinion that he was taught how to coach in the last two years.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 15, 2013 14:29:37 GMT -5
I always assumed it was a case of a kid told in HS he's going to make the league and he believed it was destiny rather than something he had to make happen. I'm not convinced it still isn't. He was constantly flaunting the possibility of declaring after his freshman year, which was a death wish at the time. He's felt the pressure to fulfill a destiny for the NBA formed by countless critics, and now that it's not looking great, he's probably feeling the heat more than ever.
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Post by calsufan on Jul 15, 2013 14:31:18 GMT -5
Up until a few short years ago G was still naive when it came to recruiting, scheduling and coaching in close games. Thankfully for our program G took advice from coaches who provided the information and knowledge that was needed to get us back into the post-season and build our program back into national prominence. And you have inside information on this how? Your proof is what?
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 14:33:22 GMT -5
All of a sudden I am conflicted about Murray after reading Coqui's post. I never felt sympathetic towards the guy and always thought it was an ego thing as well. Yeah, I've never really hated Aaric like I think a lot of people have; he's more the guy you talk shit back and forth with for fun than a guy you honestly hate. Granted, I know nothing of what he's really like, he just seemed like a constant mix of tremendous pressure and ego inside of a not dumb but probably immature mind. I'd still like him to succeed because it seems shitty to root against a guy for no reason better than "my college basketball experience wasn't maximized when he was around".
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Post by MisterD on Jul 15, 2013 14:34:14 GMT -5
Can we all agree when Steve goes Steve, we stop responding with anything other than "Stop being a boner"? Man, that made me laugh. Dead on response.
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