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Post by giveansk1 on Nov 5, 2024 6:44:12 GMT -5
Glad to hear such positive feedback. It’s incredible what was accomplished in an offseason after decades of inaction. Major props to current administration and donors.
Curious where do people think the new arena ranks in City 6 venues? Is La Salle up to 3rd?
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Post by mookie on Nov 5, 2024 8:08:06 GMT -5
Glad to hear such positive feedback. It’s incredible what was accomplished in an offseason after decades of inaction. Major props to current administration and donors. Curious where do people think the new arena ranks in City 6 venues? Is La Salle up to 3rd? Curious what others think as well. Been a while since I’ve been to the other schools but my gut tells me given the overall experience is still very much lacking, we’re still in the bottom half…the gap just isn’t as large. |
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Post by las71 on Nov 5, 2024 8:28:42 GMT -5
I agree that the overall experience is a work in progress. Getting students into the arena is one thing, getting them into the game is another. Having a pep band is a good start but the bottom line is winning.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 5, 2024 9:28:23 GMT -5
Glad to hear such positive feedback. It’s incredible what was accomplished in an offseason after decades of inaction. Major props to current administration and donors. Curious where do people think the new arena ranks in City 6 venues? Is La Salle up to 3rd? Curious what others think as well. Been a while since I’ve been to the other schools but my gut tells me given the overall experience is still very much lacking, we’re still in the bottom half…the gap just isn’t as large. first - palestra tied for second - liacouras center / du pont pavilion (du pont is shinier but their upper end zone seating is awful) fourth - glaser arena tied for fifth - hagan arena / dakalaksis center hagan, while bigger, imo is behind glaser because of the awful end zones and scoreboards. lots of obstructed view seats and they're all bleachers with the size per seat barely big enough to hold someone going 5'5" and 130 lbs. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 5, 2024 9:49:18 GMT -5
great job by la salle to finally get this done. just wanted to address some of the good comments about the current state of the arena and i think everyone pretty much realizes this is still a work in progress.
the scoreboard - great move getting a top of the line scoreboard. it's just going to take a little time for them to figure out how to utilize all the content they can put up there and also on the ones in the corners. the technology is there. they will figure it out and we'll get the player stats, fan videos, etc that people mentioned.
the footprint - i was also hoping for a full wrap around concourse but there just wasn't enough space. for them to do that, it would have meant knocking down walls and i suspect installing new support beams which would have probably added another 8 figures to the cost of the project.
signage - my guess is more will be added as the season goes on. i would hope they'll add actual banners for the other a10 schools along the sidelines. right now, their logos are just stenciled on one of the panels in the corner.
the bathrooms - they're functional and will just have to do for now. i have to believe that after the season, they will update them. right now, that ranks low on my wish list but it does need to get done.
all of this stuff is fixable and not overly expensive. it's all good.
now it's time for fans to show up, at least occasionally. no excuse for people who live in the phila area to not come out to at least a few games. students need to show up and be engaged.
no complaints from me. it's now a great place to see a game. a few tweaks and it will be even greater.
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Post by explorers2010 on Nov 5, 2024 9:55:10 GMT -5
How do you get students to stand a cheer other than winning?
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Post by lasallejohn on Nov 5, 2024 10:13:45 GMT -5
I counted two times I heard them, foul shots when American was at their end and when #15 fouled out, which I found interesting they knew to do that.
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Post by manayunk53 on Nov 5, 2024 10:37:05 GMT -5
The place is awesome, and it was kind of surreal being there last night. Great job by the school to get this done, and I think as people get in there and check it out, they will want to come to more games.
And I kept my sweatshirt on for the entire night. I've never done that before at a La Salle home game.
Also, there is a nice bottle filler now too, so you can just get one water and then refill it if you want.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 5, 2024 10:43:07 GMT -5
They should let people sponsor toilets.
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Post by 1801olney on Nov 5, 2024 10:56:58 GMT -5
There is a bar area (named by a donor, which I cant remember). The issue was that there wasnt someone working. Ash actually stopped by and said "you guys getting some beers?" "We are trying" He seemed surprised it wasnt open, as he should have been.
Also, I think the concessions could be sped up by having a few beer tubs instead of co-mingling everyone. Waiting behind a kid to chose candy when you just want to grab a quick beer is brutal.
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Post by mookie on Nov 5, 2024 11:03:30 GMT -5
There is a bar area (named by a donor, which I cant remember). The issue was that there wasnt someone working. Ash actually stopped by and said "you guys getting some beers?" "We are trying" He seemed surprised it wasnt open, as he should have been. Also, I think the concessions could be sped up by having a few beer tubs instead of co-mingling everyone. Waiting behind a kid to chose candy when you just want to grab a quick beer is brutal. I waited a good 5 mins just to buy a beer and only 1 person in front of me. They also ran out of pretzels before tipoff. I didn’t see anywhere else to buy food/drinks even though a worker said could buy elsewhere. Either way, game experience environment is much better than before and has more potential. I was really disappointed by the student turnout though. And that’s being generous. Again,the gym floor is much better and we won’t look 3rd class on tv anymore. I do love the scoreboard/“jumbotron” if that’s what it’s called above the floor. It was really nice and I found myself watching a bit of the game in there at times. |
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Post by explorerman on Nov 5, 2024 11:10:22 GMT -5
Again,the gym floor is much better and we won’t look 3rd class on tv anymore. I do love the scoreboard/“jumbotron” if that’s what it’s called above the floor. It was really nice and I found myself watching a bit of the game in there at times. That thing was not cheap either |
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Post by calsufan on Nov 5, 2024 11:32:32 GMT -5
I counted two times I heard them, foul shots when American was at their end and when #15 fouled out, which I found interesting they knew to do that. #15 (Rogers) was a punk. I believe 2 of his 5 fouls were for throwing players down on the ground. He was incredulous when he was called for his 5th foul for doing just that. American was a dirty team IMHO. Most of their players were using their arms to push off or shove players both on offense or defense. I know that happens in college basketball, but it was excessive and some of them were pretty brutal (and not called). Clearly it was something that was taught by the coach. |
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Post by explorerman on Nov 5, 2024 12:17:13 GMT -5
I counted two times I heard them, foul shots when American was at their end and when #15 fouled out, which I found interesting they knew to do that. #15 (Rogers) was a punk. I believe 2 of his 5 fouls were for throwing players down on the ground. He was incredulous when he was called for his 5th foul for doing just that. American was a dirty team IMHO. Most of their players were using their arms to push off or shove players both on offense or defense. I know that happens in college basketball, but it was excessive and some of them were pretty brutal (and not called). Clearly it was something that was taught by the coach. A coach who then acted like a victim after every call that went against them... American is not a good basketball program and the Patriot League is really poor.... La Salle did what they needed to do... I am not too sure what a barometer it is for us.. The exciting part for me is.. I think the team will get better as the season progresses and some of these parts gel... For example, Jones was def amped up and will need to tone it down and play within himself.. I feel comfortable that Dunphy should be able to do that.. |
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Post by DE-LSU84 on Nov 5, 2024 15:47:58 GMT -5
Why didn't attendance get reported? Why wasn't this game a sellout? I really thought there were too many empty seats.
I think this team has real potential.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 5, 2024 16:19:03 GMT -5
From an attendance standpoint I think you have to look at yesterday as like a soft launch. Monday night, with Homecoming coming up on Saturday. If you're only going to go to one of those games, you're most likely going to go Saturday.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 6, 2024 8:39:22 GMT -5
What I liked:
- we have a band
- being really close to the action in a sideline seat
- extra concession locations
- all chair backs
- the overhead board
- Explorer Ale
- no smoke machine
- the energy in the arena with everyone close on the sidelines
What made me say "meh":
- the seats with chair backs felt more comfortable before and a little more spacious
- friends who had seats near the top told me the railing is too close and they hit their knees on it
- it is really really tight in the rows and in the space between the first and second row on the floor where you have to walk to get to concessions. Can't really fit two people side by side.
- I miss the scoreboard at the end line, but that's probably because I've been used to looking at it for over 20 years
- same burnt popcorn
Overall it is well done and will be an enjoyable place to watch games. I guess the mural they made a couple of years ago with all the player names on it is gone, unless that's behind a concourse or something.
I'm taking bets on when a player crashes into the bass drum that is dangerously close to the baseline and gets injured.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 6, 2024 12:39:48 GMT -5
I guess the mural they made a couple of years ago with all the player names on it is gone, unless that's behind a concourse or something. the mural is still there, underneath the sideline seats on the olney ave side. i saw it the day of the gola way dedication before the retractable seating was installed. i was hoping they were going to have enough space to fit a concourse there and it would have been the back wall of that concourse but like everything else that's a little tight, it wasn't done due to space issues. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 6, 2024 13:23:53 GMT -5
Calsufan : Now do you see why it may matter ? Note several ( relatively minor ) design weaknesses / shortcomings mentioned above, for example, the apparent need for spectators to walk on or very near the court to get to the restrooms and concessions. See the 2018-2019 KBA+Site architectural drawing #37.
The inability to fund construction at this time of the proposed two-story men's and women's locker room Building addition ( shown in green ) at the East end of the Arena has, in turn, created / generated several of the minor criticisms mentioned in the posts above, however, in all probability this would have added another $5 - $8 million to the projected cost of construction. explorertown.proboards.com/thread/3259/comprehensive-facilities-master-plan-trumark?page=20. Open, then scroll down to post #2.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SnjqP2GRArFtmg2KF9kPSm4tnmywibdK/edit#slide=id.p37 |
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Post by calsufan on Nov 6, 2024 14:01:35 GMT -5
Calsufan : Now do you see why it may matter ? Note several ( relatively minor ) design weaknesses / shortcomings mentioned above, for example, the apparent need for spectators to walk on or very near the court to get to the restrooms and concessions. See the 2018-2019 KBA+Site architectural drawing #37.
The inability to fund construction of the proposed two-story men's and women's locker room Building addition ( shown in green ) at the North end of the Arena at this time has, in turn, created / generated several of the minor criticisms mentioned in the posts above, however, in all probability this would have added another $5 - $8 million to the projected cost of construction. explorertown.proboards.com/thread/3259/comprehensive-facilities-master-plan-trumark?page=20. Open, then scroll down to post #2.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SnjqP2GRArFtmg2KF9kPSm4tnmywibdK/edit#slide=id.p37Nope, sorry gymrat, but it doesn't matter one damn bit to me. Would I have liked it? Sure, but guess what? They couldn't afford it. Should they have delayed the renovation and lost Glaser's money? The obvious answer is no. Should they have gone in debt for the extra $5 to $8 million? Not with the financial strains they're having already. I'm thankful for what they have, and as you so clearly pointed out the issues are MINOR, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to revisit this. They did what they could with the money they had. Some of the improvements (but not all) will come later I'm sure, but this is a night and day change for the program and the school. Be thankful for what we have with the funds we had available. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 6, 2024 14:34:55 GMT -5
Calsufan : Now do you see why it may matter ? Note several ( relatively minor ) design weaknesses / shortcomings mentioned above, for example, the apparent need for spectators to walk on or very near the court to get to the restrooms and concessions. See the 2018-2019 KBA+Site architectural drawing #37.
The inability to fund construction of the proposed two-story men's and women's locker room Building addition ( shown in green ) at the North end of the Arena at this time has, in turn, created / generated several of the minor criticisms mentioned in the posts above, however, in all probability this would have added another $5 - $8 million to the projected cost of construction. explorertown.proboards.com/thread/3259/comprehensive-facilities-master-plan-trumark?page=20. Open, then scroll down to post #2.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SnjqP2GRArFtmg2KF9kPSm4tnmywibdK/edit#slide=id.p37if they went with the plan you provided the links to, they would not have been able to even get close to the 3,000 capacity as the east end zone would have only been able to accomodate approximately 10 rows of seating. you're talking about losing another 300 seats or so under that plan. and one thing i didn't post earlier that i heard from my friend who was at the donor's reception is that there are plans to build new nicer and larger locker rooms for the men's and women's basketball teams which will be on the second floor. not sure how far along the plans are but they will need to fundraise and may try to do it between the end of this season and the beginning of next season. how about just being happy for the incredible job done by ash and his department on this project and appreciate all that's going on. |
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Post by manayunk53 on Nov 6, 2024 16:11:04 GMT -5
This is La Salle basketball. We had metal Erector Set contraptions holding our backboards from the ceilings with cords dangling over the basket. For decades. This new arena rules. And they did it all in a summer without missing games. On a limited budget. Great job and let's get better crowds now.
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Post by walkon on Nov 6, 2024 16:40:47 GMT -5
Only complaint is the lack of leg room with the seats. Many people in my section said the same.
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Post by explorerman on Nov 6, 2024 16:46:01 GMT -5
Calsufan : Now do you see why it may matter ? Note several ( relatively minor ) design weaknesses / shortcomings mentioned above, for example, the apparent need for spectators to walk on or very near the court to get to the restrooms and concessions. See the 2018-2019 KBA+Site architectural drawing #37.
The inability to fund construction of the proposed two-story men's and women's locker room Building addition ( shown in green ) at the North end of the Arena at this time has, in turn, created / generated several of the minor criticisms mentioned in the posts above, however, in all probability this would have added another $5 - $8 million to the projected cost of construction. explorertown.proboards.com/thread/3259/comprehensive-facilities-master-plan-trumark?page=20. Open, then scroll down to post #2.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SnjqP2GRArFtmg2KF9kPSm4tnmywibdK/edit#slide=id.p37if they went with the plan you provided the links to, they would not have been able to even get close to the 3,000 capacity as the east end zone would have only been able to accomodate approximately 10 rows of seating. you're talking about losing another 300 seats or so under that plan. and one thing i didn't post earlier that i heard from my friend who was at the donor's reception is that there are plans to build new nicer and larger locker rooms for the men's and women's basketball teams which will be on the second floor. not sure how far along the plans are but they will need to fundraise and may try to do it between the end of this season and the beginning of next season. how about just being happy for the incredible job done by ash and his department on this project and appreciate all that's going on. Yes and Ash is gladly willing to take any checks or pledges. This is a priority project for him. |
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Post by calsufan on Nov 6, 2024 19:52:32 GMT -5
Only complaint is the lack of leg room with the seats. Many people in my section said the same. I'm a tick under 6'5", so I've got some long legs. I didn't think the legroom was a problem per se; more so it was when people were going through the row to their seat, it was a tight walk through. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 6, 2024 23:04:34 GMT -5
Only complaint is the lack of leg room with the seats. Many people in my section said the same. I'm a tick under 6'5", so I've got some long legs. I didn't think the legroom was a problem per se; more so it was when people were going through the row to their seat, it was a tight walk through. Maybe you have short legs and a long torso... |
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Post by calsufan on Nov 6, 2024 23:21:32 GMT -5
I'm a tick under 6'5", so I've got some long legs. I didn't think the legroom was a problem per se; more so it was when people were going through the row to their seat, it was a tight walk through. Maybe you have short legs and a long torso... Lol. 36+ inseam. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 7, 2024 14:17:09 GMT -5
Maybe you have short legs and a long torso... Lol. 36+ inseam. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 9, 2024 14:54:01 GMT -5
I’m here. It feels like an arena. Can confirm. I am pleased.
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 9, 2024 15:05:39 GMT -5
Only complaint is the lack of leg room with the seats. Many people in my section said the same. I'm a tick under 6'5", so I've got some long legs. I didn't think the legroom was a problem per se; more so it was when people were going through the row to their seat, it was a tight walk through. I generally find this to be the case at most (if not all) venues though. |
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