MisterD
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Post by MisterD on May 24, 2024 12:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by jb71 on May 24, 2024 12:25:24 GMT -5
Found this video. I guess it's him....not sure how we could sign him with 13 scholarships already taken
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 12:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by explorerman on May 24, 2024 12:35:11 GMT -5
From Jake Leiberman: 7’ 2024 prospect Mohamadou Cisse out of Trinity Valley Community College just completed a Zoom call with Seton Hall (offer). Also conducted a Zoom with Chattanooga. Cisse will have a Zoom with La Salle later today. A decision is nearing. For the love of god, can Seton Hall please stop taking our front-court targets... At some point, one of them will have to realize that there is no playing time over there.. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 14:26:29 GMT -5
interesting that mouhamadou's inner circle includes chester pa native rondae hollis-jefferson. his brother rahlir played for dunph at temple from 2009 to 2013, going to the ncaa's four straight years while the team went 103-32. hopefully rahlir has put in the good word for dunph. zoom call was at 1pm today and he will announce his decision at 10am tomorrow per this tweet from rondae. x.com/TeamRHJAZ/status/1794030974789202372?s=19 |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 24, 2024 14:45:10 GMT -5
Third team in three years for those that count those things. Wonder why he left Saint Louis.
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 15:16:22 GMT -5
Third team in three years for those that count those things. Wonder why he left Saint Louis. his next school will be his third team in three years. he left slu after one season because ford recruited over him. he barely got on the court his freshman season at slu, playing a total of 54 minutes in 15 games. my guess is he had offers out of the portal last year but decided to go the juco route which a fair amount of kids do if they don't like the offers they got. he can't play another juco season so he has to move on which was his intention. that's what tegra izay did a couple years ago and he ended up at southern mississippi. |
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Post by mookie on May 24, 2024 15:59:56 GMT -5
The number of schools doesn’t have the same negative connotation as it once did. We’re reaching a point where if a kid stays at a school for 2+ years it’s likely due to them not being able to get more PT elsewhere or couldn’t secure more money. Either way, it’s as if they’ll start to be penalized for showing loyalty.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 24, 2024 16:22:31 GMT -5
I don’t count those things. Bring him in.
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Post by jb71 on May 24, 2024 16:52:24 GMT -5
I don’t count those things. Bring him in. I agree....But I'm counting 13 currently on board....How do we still have a scholarship left to.offer? |
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Post by lasallejohn on May 24, 2024 17:08:58 GMT -5
Didn’t someone say efstratios changed?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 24, 2024 17:15:42 GMT -5
I don’t count those things. Bring him in. I agree....But I'm counting 13 currently on board....How do we still have a scholarship left to.offer? Im sure the coaches have a grasp on how many scholarships they have. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 24, 2024 19:30:53 GMT -5
You guys can overlook roster continuity and loyalty all you want, and I'm happy for Jig and Khalil each getting over 300K, but I will tell you guys that the teams that keep their rosters together will win more than the teams that are 1 year revolving doors.
Dan Hurley just said it after he won his 2nd consecutive national title, they don't just recruit every talented high school. Are their parents a pain in the ass? Are the AAU coaches a pain in the ass? Have they been to 3 high schools? Have they played for 3 AAU teams? Who's in their circle?
The red flags are there. All of those things that Hurley looks for at UConn are indicators of if the kid is going to be a pleasure to coach, or a pain in the ass? A good teammate or a headache?
We've had pain in the ass parents and headaches in this program. Aaric Murray was at a reform school for a reason. Yet we were all jumping for joy getting a top 35 player, I know I was...Aaric very quickly proved to be a pain in the ass. It was either Aaric or Duren, and G rightfully told Murray he's gone. Murray continued to be a pain in the ass at West Virginia. So much so, that he had to finish at Texas Southern (where I think he beat our ass at homecoming, and the student section chanted Fire G).
Wrapping it up, every pain in the ass, from AI, to Boogie Cousins, to Ben Simmons, to the kid from South Carolina that tried to assassinate G's character on Twitter, presented red flags early on in their career that people drunk on talent chose to ignore.
So as these kids cycle through, I caution all of you not to just ignore red flags that are present. That doesn't mean that every transfer is a pain in the ass. You also don't want 10 Tre Mitchell's and Jack Clark's.
****I'm not saying that we should eschew the portal, just do he homework and due diligence before taking everyone or anyone****
That's my Ted talk.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 24, 2024 19:41:31 GMT -5
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Post by mookie on May 24, 2024 20:02:20 GMT -5
You guys can overlook roster continuity and loyalty all you want, and I'm happy for Jig and Khalil each getting over 300K, but I will tell you guys that the teams that keep their rosters together will win more than the teams that are 1 year revolving doors. Dan Hurley just said it after he won his 2nd consecutive national title, they don't just recruit every talented high school. Are their parents a pain in the ass? Are the AAU coaches a pain in the ass? Have they been to 3 high schools? Have they played for 3 AAU teams? Who's in their circle? The red flags are there. All of those things that Hurley looks for at UConn are indicators of if the kid is going to be a pleasure to coach, or a pain in the ass? A good teammate or a headache? We've had pain in the ass parents and headaches in this program. Aaric Murray was at a reform school for a reason. Yet we were all jumping for joy getting a top 35 player, I know I was...Aaric very quickly proved to be a pain in the ass. It was either Aaric or Duren, and G rightfully told Murray he's gone. Murray continued to be a pain in the ass at West Virginia. So much so, that he had to finish at Texas Southern (where I think he beat our ass at homecoming, and the student section chanted Fire G). Wrapping it up, every pain in the ass, from AI, to Boogie Cousins, to Ben Simmons, to the kid from South Carolina that tried to assassinate G's character on Twitter, presented red flags early on in their career that people drunk on talent chose to ignore. So as these kids cycle through, I caution all of you not to just ignore red flags that are present. That doesn't mean that every transfer is a pain in the ass. You also don't want 10 Tre Mitchell's and Jack Clark's. ****I'm not saying that we should eschew the portal, just do he homework and due diligence before taking everyone or anyone**** That's my Ted talk. I appreciate your honesty and don’t disagree with you at all. The last 10+ years have shown teams with consistent rosters tend to perform better than the teams stacked with 1 and dones. BUT let’s not turn up our noses and act like we wouldn’t be happy if we made the tourney with players next year, turned over the roster, made the tourney again the following year or the year after. We need to be competitive year in and year out. And I’m not talking .500 which we can’t even do. I’m talking top 3 in the conference consistent which we haven’t done since the 90s. With that said, I’m not saying taking any and every possible transfer. I agree with vetting players and not taking red flag players. I just don’t think looking at the number of schools a players attends should be viewed as a red flag anymore. |
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Post by explorer88 on May 24, 2024 20:21:01 GMT -5
Both Seton Hall and Chattanooga have gotten big man commitments recently. We should be the choice but in todays day and age with NIL who knows.
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 20:51:22 GMT -5
Both Seton Hall and Chattanooga have gotten big man commitments recently. We should be the choice but in todays day and age with NIL who knows. chattanooga is out of scholarships after getting a 6'10" kid out of the portal earlier today. seton hall has one scholarship left and already have 3 bigs on their roster similar to mouhamadou and are also pursuing a highly rated pf out of the portal from east carolina but he's got lots of schools after him. i guess we'll find out tomorrow. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 24, 2024 20:56:53 GMT -5
***Very long post*** I defer to you on alot of this shit because you're a high level college athlete, and you're pragmatic. 14 years ago, my brother and I were hired to coach a 14U travel baseball team. When I say hired, I made 300 a month, and he made a little more, but we were paid coaches, we had tryouts, had final say on our roster, Yada Yada Yada. We coached these kids from their 8th and 9th grade years, all the way through their senior seasons. Kids from Episcopal and Bonner, all the way down to Ocean City, NJ. A handful of Kingsway kids, Audubon, Deptford (the cop that was killed last year), 2 Delaware kids, we had them from all over. In 2010, we went slightly above 500, 1 and done in the playoffs, 2011 we were second in the TSE league, making semi finals in tourneys, taking a few 2nds, winning a tournament in Delaware, etc. Now, each fall and summer, we'd pick up 2 or 3 kids, and lose 2, but the core of our 15 players stayed together throughout the duration. We had a couple of football players that didn't play fall ball, and we'd take 2 players just for the fall, we'd have some kids we'd have to cut, we'd have parents chasing something bigger, those types of things. In 2012, my brother decided we were going to break away from the organization we worked for, he was going to start an LLC, buy insurance, rent out space from another indoor spot, and just play in showcases and tournaments, no league. The kids were now 16, and he was playing to what the parents wanted. We hired a guy to make a highlight video for each kid, with them talking about themselves, measurables, 60 times, pop times, all those things. We played at JMU, Radford, La Salle, West Chester, Gettysburg, Duquesne, a couple of perfect game and dynamic events. Gone were the days of playing at Ripken in Aberdeen, Sports at the beach in Rehoboth, tournaments in Hershey and Lancaster. These events had scouts with radar guns, stop watches, college coaches wanting to know GPAs, SATs, talk to parents for visits, all the shit kids and parents said they wanted. Those 2 years sucked. Every weekend, it was emails, texts, and phone calls about why a kid was only pitching, not hitting, where he was in the lineup, where he was in the field, etc. We had to explain to the parents that very few players are going to pitch and hit in college, most are gonna do 1 or the other, it's not a Legion team, we're now a showcase team. Even worse was when kids would hit 2 dingers in a game, and you'd have other travel coaches from bigger travel teams trying to talk to parents and poach your kids. Gone were the days of trying to bunt or hit and run to steal a run and win a game. We got smoked at this tournament at Pitt, a pitcher that was a Richmond comment just owned us, we got shut out 2-0 and the kids just didn't want to be out there. We spent countless hours of fall seasons, spring/summer seasons, winter practices, developing kids that were fringe JV/Varsity kids, making them into good ball players, and we sold our souls because it's what the parents THOUGHT they wanted. We had 3 kids go ineligible in 2013, one kid who was a late signee back out of his commitment to a school in Virginia, to go to Cumberland County College (now RCSJ), and we went slightly above 500 playing this showcase schedule. After the 2013 season, we made a decision that it was time to call it quits. My brother got so sick of it, he took an assistant job at Gwynned Mercy (where he played after Saverio cut him in 04) signed 4 of our travel kids to GMC, found another 4 college opportunities at different schools, and I didn't coach ball again until my 7 year old moved up to play softball last year. My point in all of this is that youth and travel sports can be a cesspool, full of people that give zero fucks about the kids, or values, or molding young men and women. We lost our culture and shit spiraled very quickly. So even though Hurley is living in an ivory tower in Storers, he has to keep his culture to have success, even in this NIL era. Calipari was built to crush it in this era of NIL and player empowerment. He hasn't won since AD was there in 2012. Duke has transformed from a school that "did it the right way," to Kentucky east. They haven't won it since Okafor was there in 2015. Those schools have dozens of 1st round draft picks over the last decade. Winning isn't just about acquiring the most talent and paying it. There has to be culture involved. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 24, 2024 21:08:30 GMT -5
You guys can overlook roster continuity and loyalty all you want, and I'm happy for Jig and Khalil each getting over 300K, but I will tell you guys that the teams that keep their rosters together will win more than the teams that are 1 year revolving doors. Dan Hurley just said it after he won his 2nd consecutive national title, they don't just recruit every talented high school. Are their parents a pain in the ass? Are the AAU coaches a pain in the ass? Have they been to 3 high schools? Have they played for 3 AAU teams? Who's in their circle? The red flags are there. All of those things that Hurley looks for at UConn are indicators of if the kid is going to be a pleasure to coach, or a pain in the ass? A good teammate or a headache? We've had pain in the ass parents and headaches in this program. Aaric Murray was at a reform school for a reason. Yet we were all jumping for joy getting a top 35 player, I know I was...Aaric very quickly proved to be a pain in the ass. It was either Aaric or Duren, and G rightfully told Murray he's gone. Murray continued to be a pain in the ass at West Virginia. So much so, that he had to finish at Texas Southern (where I think he beat our ass at homecoming, and the student section chanted Fire G). Wrapping it up, every pain in the ass, from AI, to Boogie Cousins, to Ben Simmons, to the kid from South Carolina that tried to assassinate G's character on Twitter, presented red flags early on in their career that people drunk on talent chose to ignore. So as these kids cycle through, I caution all of you not to just ignore red flags that are present. That doesn't mean that every transfer is a pain in the ass. You also don't want 10 Tre Mitchell's and Jack Clark's. ****I'm not saying that we should eschew the portal, just do he homework and due diligence before taking everyone or anyone**** That's my Ted talk. not sure why the recruitment of cisse started a red flag warning but i'm sure dunph and his staff do thorough vettings on anyone they offer. on the surface, cisse's history doesn't come close to raising a red flag to me. travis ford didn't play him and then recruited over him so the kid made a smart decision and went juco to get playing time in hopes of getting some quality offers. nothing more, nothing less. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 25, 2024 5:01:39 GMT -5
Winning isn't just about acquiring the most talent and paying it. There has to be culture involved. Good post and I 100% agree. The proof is in the pudding for La Salle too who only has meaningful success when an all-time emotional leader in Ramon Galloway pushed the team into the tournament. The problem though is that team will be the most “talented” team La Salle ever has going forward. I said it in my big post that you’re not getting Ramon and Earl and Tyrone to transfer in while also getting Jerrell and Tyreek and Sam to stay. Hurley has seemingly not recruited assholes, funny because I think he is an asshole himself. But the kids he’s got are NBA G League guys at minimum and big league role players at the high end. And they’re all cashing big checks. Maybe not the biggest checks, but still life changing money. La Salle on the other hand doesn’t have anywhere near the luxury of these things. I think they can do something different to achieve more cohesion and recruit specific kids that do specific things, but it won’t be winning the normal way with the types of players we’re accustomed to. |
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Post by mookie on May 25, 2024 5:22:13 GMT -5
Winning isn't just about acquiring the most talent and paying it. There has to be culture involved. Good post and I 100% agree. The proof is in the pudding for La Salle too who only has meaningful success when an all-time emotional leader in Ramon Galloway pushed the team into the tournament. The problem though is that team will be the most “talented” team La Salle ever has going forward. I said it in my big post that you’re not getting Ramon and Earl and Tyrone to transfer in while also getting Jerrell and Tyreek and Sam to stay. Hurley has seemingly not recruited assholes, funny because I think he is an asshole himself. But the kids he’s got are NBA G League guys at minimum and big league role players at the high end. And they’re all cashing big checks. Maybe not the biggest checks, but still life changing money. La Salle on the other hand doesn’t have anywhere near the luxury of these things. I think they can do something different to achieve more cohesion and recruit specific kids that do specific things, but it won’t be winning the normal way with the types of players we’re accustomed to. Agree with both. I’m a big culture guy, probably more than my company wants to hear out of me. There has to be a middle ground and acknowledgment this is going to happen year in and year out. Not a dogmatic narrow view of the jedi…at least not for sometime BTW-thanks for sharing that “long” and personal experience. |
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Post by walkon on May 25, 2024 8:05:49 GMT -5
Is this big kid announcing at 10?
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Post by mookie on May 25, 2024 8:38:16 GMT -5
Is this big kid announcing at 10? Saw this on Twitter. @c1sse_momo4 and myself did zoom calls with Seton Hall, UT Chattanooga, and have a zoom meeting today with La Salle University “A10” at 1pm. Mohamadou will be making his decision tomorrow morning at 10am. @jucoadvocate Why A10 is in quotes following La Salle is weird. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 25, 2024 10:12:56 GMT -5
can't find any news online yet so i'm going to assume this announcement will be at 10am pacific time. mohamadou and rondae did the zoom interviews together with the three schools yesterday and i'm pretty sure rondae spends most of his time in phoenix. so hopefully we'll get some good news a couple hours from now.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on May 25, 2024 10:27:10 GMT -5
He went to Saul Phiri's high school before going out to school in Arizona. Did the staff work this kid out or is this all through Zoom?
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Post by explorer88 on May 25, 2024 10:50:13 GMT -5
Cisse has committed La Salle.
From Jake Leiberman:
Cisse has committed to La Salle, he’s told me.
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 25, 2024 10:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 25, 2024 10:53:45 GMT -5
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Post by explorerman on May 25, 2024 11:31:35 GMT -5
Solid depth piece… Would like another big man to fill in the depth.. Maybe one with some good footwork and have them at the #4.. Simply in the end “You can not teach height”..
Twin Towers like system.. Ideally you need 4 big men (over 6’10) to truly do it but obviously have to have 3 big men. But Coaching staff is more interested with a 4-out motion based offense if the last couple years and this recruiting class are a sign.
I simply think if we can’t shoot from the outside then let’s win the paint..
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Post by lasallejohn on May 25, 2024 11:36:25 GMT -5
Much more excited with this frontcourt compared to what we had. Based on his highlights, can catch the ball and finish in transition.
Long body too. Very exciting.
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