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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 27, 2022 22:04:03 GMT -5
He was decent at Fordham.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 27, 2022 22:15:37 GMT -5
To be fair, Oregon did have six (6) scholarship players last game.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 27, 2022 22:39:00 GMT -5
To be fair, Oregon did have six (6) scholarship players last game. I think coaching Fordham to a winning record and being successful at present day Villanova is a HUGE step up. This isn't the NIT days of Lappas when you were in college. To me fair, I don't know who can replace Jay Wright and keep Nova as a perennial Final 4 contender. I just don't see a 2-5 Nova team that plays a decent schedule getting to where their fans and decision makers deem to be acceptable. Perhaps it's unfair and Jay set the bar too high, but it is what it is. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 27, 2022 23:03:16 GMT -5
I can argue that Jay Wright is the best college coach...maybe ever. Following that is a tough job. But openly comparing a guy who has coached seven games at your school to another coach who failed miserably for four years is something. And telling.
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 28, 2022 8:54:06 GMT -5
To be fair, Oregon did have six (6) scholarship players last game. I think coaching Fordham to a winning record and being successful at present day Villanova is a HUGE step up. This isn't the NIT days of Lappas when you were in college. To me fair, I don't know who can replace Jay Wright and keep Nova as a perennial Final 4 contender. I just don't see a 2-5 Nova team that plays a decent schedule getting to where their fans and decision makers deem to be acceptable. Perhaps it's unfair and Jay set the bar too high, but it is what it is. The bar IS set high. But, right now they are staring at a must win game against Oklahoma. A game that if they don't win, an at large bid to the NCAA's will be very difficult to come by. And the PENN game isn't exactly a gimme either. |
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Post by 23won on Nov 28, 2022 10:10:27 GMT -5
Their biggest problem to me is playing Arci 35+ minutes at the point.
I'd take the risk of playing Armstrong at least 20 at the point and playing Daniels at point for the delta. Daniels, Slater, Dixon, Whitmore and Armstrong/Longino have plenty of talent. Whitmore is a lottery pick star that should return soon. A core lineup with those 5 would be what I'd bet the ranch on. Armstrong won't be playing like a freshman later in the year if he gets solid PT without fear of a hook over the next 6 games. If Moore comes back, that will help too, but that will be later based on his achilles injury.
They will struggle for a bit, but I'd throw Armstrong in the deep end of the pool and let him learn before conference play picks up.
Now separate and apart from this - can Neptune handle the Big East grind? UConn, Creighton and St John look like they are on a different level. Nova may be in the mix with Providence, Butler and Marquette in the standings if their play picks up, but this is unfamiliar territory for the Cats. If they don't pick up confidence, they could drop down.
I don't think that will happen as the scoring benefit with Whitmore would have led to different results in many of the prior games. But the Big East grind will be TOUGH and every team will be looking to beat up Nova and the big target on their back without Jay. Think of all the close games Jay won by working the refs for at least the last ten years ...Bring on the popcorn.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 29, 2022 11:14:46 GMT -5
the main thing that impressed me about neptune's year at fordham was how hard he got those kids to play for him. he did a nice job bleeding 16 wins out of a roster with average talent. it was almost entirely because of their defense.
but they struggled offensively, which i thought was because of a combination of the lack of talent and his coaching ability. i keep thinking back to the first game between fordham and la salle at gola. ash went to a zone early in the second half and neptune had no idea how to attack it. inexplicably, ash switched back to man, fordham went on a run and never looked back. fordham struggled offensively most of the season and that appears to be where neptune needs some help.
i like neptune and nova's players. i hope he turns it around for his and the team's sake. but i can't help but get some enjoyment watching their fanbase implode over it.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 30, 2023 10:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by freshgrocer on Jan 30, 2023 11:04:20 GMT -5
La Salle playing poorly stinks. But seeing nova below .500 is rather enjoyable to see. It truly is awful coaching. Jay left the cupboard absolutely loaded for Neptune. He's got a handful of seniors/grad students as well as a freshman that is a projected top 5 or 10 pick. The roster has pretty good balance, but Neptune can't do anything. They were lucky they narrowly escaped Georgetown at HOME 2 weeks ago. They also already lost one transfer with Angelo Brizzi leaving a few weeks ago.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 30, 2023 11:20:24 GMT -5
You'd think a Blue Blood Program(tm) would atleast be able to stay above .500 after a coaching change.
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Post by mookie on Jan 30, 2023 11:30:55 GMT -5
May be in the minority but there should be at least 1 program in the Philly area that’s nationally relevant every year. You can’t rely on La Salle, SJU, Drexel or UPenn to do that.
By process of elimination, that leaves us with TU and Nova.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 30, 2023 11:36:41 GMT -5
I choose Temple.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 30, 2023 11:46:40 GMT -5
By process of elimination, that leaves us with TU and Nova. And Villanova's not in Philly. |
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Post by nyalum on Jan 30, 2023 11:47:55 GMT -5
You're right. This is all very entertaining as we play the world's smallest fiddle for them. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 30, 2023 11:54:47 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 30, 2023 12:22:41 GMT -5
What I love is the "sans Arch" as if the coach needs to play the lesser-talented dude thirty minutes a game because his brother was important eight years ago. Nova needs that one white dude like Duke did in the nineties and early aughts I guess.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jan 30, 2023 12:27:38 GMT -5
La Salle playing poorly stinks. But seeing nova below .500 is rather enjoyable to see. It truly is awful coaching. Jay left the cupboard absolutely loaded for Neptune. He's got a handful of seniors/grad students as well as a freshman that is a projected top 5 or 10 pick. The roster has pretty good balance, but Neptune can't do anything. They were lucky they narrowly escaped Georgetown at HOME 2 weeks ago. They also already lost one transfer with Angelo Brizzi leaving a few weeks ago.Sharpshooter Angelo Brizzi has now transferred to Davidson in the A-10, where he will undoubtedly flourish and pummel La Salle twice a year for the next 2 - 3 years.  |
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Post by gymrat67 on Jan 30, 2023 13:45:01 GMT -5
What I love is the "sans Arch" as if the coach needs to play the lesser-talented dude thirty minutes a game because his brother was important eight years ago. Nova needs that one white dude like Duke did in the nineties and early aughts I guess. Anachronistically, I happened to watch Davidson's 74 - 70 loss to the St. Louis Bilikins this past Friday, Jan. 27th on ESPN2. Couldn't help but notice that the Wildcats' sophomore G / F Desmond Watson was the eleventh man off the bench to play in the second half of the game ( i.e., not in the starting five, nor among the next five substitutes coming off the bench to play ). No mention or explanation whatsoever by the announcers that, as an example, Watson was coming off of a previous injury. Davidson Wildcats MBB 2022-23 Roster : davidsonwildcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster?path=mbball |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 30, 2023 14:04:41 GMT -5
What I love is the "sans Arch" as if the coach needs to play the lesser-talented dude thirty minutes a game because his brother was important eight years ago. Nova needs that one white dude like Duke did in the nineties and early aughts I guess. Anachronistically, I happened to watch Davidson's 74 - 70 loss to the St. Louis Bilikins this past Friday, Jan. 27th on ESPN2. Couldn't help but notice that the Wildcats' sophomore G / F Desmond Watson was the eleventh man off the bench to play in the second half of the game ( i.e., not in the starting five, nor among the next five substitutes coming off the bench to play ). No mention or explanation whatsoever by the announcers that, as an example, Watson was coming off of a previous injury. Davidson Wildcats MBB 2022-23 Roster : davidsonwildcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster?path=mbballNot following you here. He started that game and against us and played 25 minutes in both games. Davidson only went 8-deep in both games. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Jan 30, 2023 14:44:11 GMT -5
Anachronistically, I happened to watch Davidson's 74 - 70 loss to the St. Louis Bilikins this past Friday, Jan. 27th on ESPN2. Couldn't help but notice that the Wildcats' sophomore G / F Desmond Watson was the eleventh man off the bench to play in the second half of the game ( i.e., not in the starting five, nor among the next five substitutes coming off the bench to play ). No mention or explanation whatsoever by the announcers that, as an example, Watson was coming off of a previous injury. Davidson Wildcats MBB 2022-23 Roster : davidsonwildcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster?path=mbballNot following you here. He started that game and against us and played 25 minutes in both games. Davidson only went 8-deep in both games. if I am / was mistaken. Damn ESPN+ ... guess I've been sampling too many A10 men's and women's basketball games. I did not sit there and watch the entire game. My comments above pertained to the second half of the game. Watson must have played most of his 25 minutes in the first half. [ I see that he has only started 7 of the 21 games thus far this season. ] |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 2, 2023 9:22:28 GMT -5
More from Nova Nation after their loss to #14 Marquette last night. My favorite is one fan's call for a national coaching search.   |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 2, 2023 9:26:35 GMT -5
"All the good of the Jay Wright era will be gone after three losing seasons" is definitely something someone said.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 2, 2023 9:38:04 GMT -5
"All the good of the Jay Wright era will be gone after three losing seasons" is definitely something someone said. I know I shouldn't be taking pleasure in this, but watching their fan base publicly implode is comical. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 2, 2023 9:43:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure all of the new construction to both athletics and non-athletics facilities that was spurred by two national championship wins will remain standing though if someone tore it down I wouldn't mind either.
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Post by 23won on Feb 2, 2023 12:46:52 GMT -5
I watched the game. I think they are getting close to being a good team with Moore back. He will take at least 3 games to get back in form but they looked better with him.
The only issue is whether the players believe they can win the tough games. Under Wright that was a given, with his attitude, culture and way he worked the refs; those were infectious winning traits that the players thrived under.
Now it's not the same and you have more experienced guys around the league (like at Marquette, Providence, Creighton etc.), getting the benefits from the refs, not Neptune. That makes a difference in the tough games, especially when on the road with a hostile crowd.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 2, 2023 14:22:25 GMT -5
The most work Jay Wright did was on the refs.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 2, 2023 15:36:13 GMT -5
The most work Jay Wright did was on the refs. Sooo true that guy cussed more than any other coach I have ever seen in my life... 30 seconds into the game and he was working refs |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 2, 2023 16:08:12 GMT -5
Former A10 Rookie of the Year, Tyler Kolek, torched them for 20 last night.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 2, 2023 16:38:09 GMT -5
One bet I would have lost big time is that if Villanova tanked in 2022-23, you'd be able to point to FT differential. Not a material difference YoY.
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Post by hykos1045 on Feb 2, 2023 19:11:51 GMT -5
You would have lost that bet, but we all were spot on that as soon as Nova's 10 year standalone Big 5 champion run ended, they were definitely going to tease out the rumor to break up the Big 5 the following season, using either Drexel or "scheduling challenges" as a scapegoat. Yep, that had to happen and they didn't even wait til April to leak the story!
And Kyle Neptune will be back at Nova next year, but if he fails to make the tournament again, and they really want to buy him out, maybe he can join Mr. Dunphy and work for free as his top assistant.
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