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Post by explorerman on Nov 27, 2019 17:51:21 GMT -5
Players spend most of their time in the practice facility. During recruiting schools push the practice facility. Phog Allen, Rupp, and Cameron are antiquated but they have top notch practice facilities. Maryland opened their arena but they are far behind because they have no dedicated practice facility - they are fundraising for that now. Rutgers just opened a new practice facility. VCU'S recruiting literature is heavy on the practice facility. Fans will come to see a winning team - whether it is in the Gola or a brand new facility. Eventually brand new fades to fans. The priority should be a practice facility IMO I hear you but those schools still have real arenas and not a junior high gym. Arena upgrade has to come first IMO. With you on the arena but the numbers have to make sense.. Right now athletics facility is moving to forefront and will provide better value in intermediate term.. E&F is perfect location |
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 27, 2019 18:09:30 GMT -5
This program will never be able to compete without an upgraded arena. I have said it for years. It is right in front of everyone to see. If the school looks away from that the program will never be able to compete in this conference and even the MAAC members are upgrading their arenas or have arenas already better than Gola.
There is no escape for La Salle if they want to be a player at D1.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 27, 2019 19:31:41 GMT -5
Guys this was decided already
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Post by explorerman on Nov 27, 2019 23:19:05 GMT -5
This program will never be able to compete without an upgraded arena. I have said it for years. It is right in front of everyone to see. If the school looks away from that the program will never be able to compete in this conference and even the MAAC members are upgrading their arenas or have arenas already better than Gola. There is no escape for La Salle if they want to be a player at D1. I am with you and they aren’t looking away.. The designs are there and the planning in place |
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Post by coachd on Dec 2, 2019 11:41:06 GMT -5
Guys this was decided already I think there could be an announcement soon. Heard at a recent alum event that a new donor emerged and money must be spent by 2023 for a new arena at E&F location. Our current home court would be a perfect practice facility. If we want to be a dominate force in A10 and Big 5 we need a 6K seat arena with weight room and of course a pub area for alums to pre-game relax and post-game celebrate. This could be the last opportunity for those alums 50+ to see La Salle with an overdue new arena. |
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Post by calsufan on Dec 2, 2019 12:33:41 GMT -5
A 6K seat arena? That's ridiculous. We'd never fill it. And don't tell me if we win we will. We won't fill it. 4K is plenty. I just don't know if they can get the money for even that.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 2, 2019 12:41:02 GMT -5
I don't think 6K is too large. Can we fill it now? No. Do we have the money? I don't know, probably not. If we had the money would I build or renovate a 6K place instead of a 4K place? Absolutely. I would never want to be in a position that we would have to move a game because we would not have enough tickets if we ever got good.
Of course all of this hinges on money and I have not hear a new arena would be done versus a renovation of Gola. All I know is we desperately need to get out of the current Gola configuration.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 2, 2019 14:15:18 GMT -5
A 6K seat arena? That's ridiculous. Look who posted it. Enough said. Everyone back to work... |
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Post by coachd on Dec 2, 2019 15:36:46 GMT -5
6K is my hope, I realize we may have to settle for 5,000 to 5,500... any smaller wouldn't make sense. I just pray the admin doesn't sit on the decision and starts the alum and corporate fundraising campaign soon as E&F demolition is complete (hopefully by January) to make up the additional monies required to build our new hoops home... let's call it The Simmons Center Court at _____ Arena. Fill in the main corporate or alumni donor in the blank spot. FYI: This is the last year of our Sweet 16 money.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 2, 2019 15:47:33 GMT -5
what
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Post by calsufan on Dec 2, 2019 17:06:05 GMT -5
As a wise man once said... "Look who posted it. Enough said. Everyone back to work..." |
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Post by durenduren on Dec 2, 2019 18:15:47 GMT -5
this definitely deserves a ‘what’ |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 4, 2019 22:55:49 GMT -5
It’s not smart to lie this close to Christmas. Santa still has time to take back all your presents.
Wait, you’re not one of my kids.
Are you?
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Post by Happy Fortune on Dec 6, 2019 8:55:43 GMT -5
I heard E&F was being knocked down for Happy Fortune 2
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Post by durenduren on Dec 7, 2019 10:47:38 GMT -5
I heard E&F was being knocked down for Happy Fortune 2 Heard they’re building a Taco Bell in College Hall. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 12, 2020 15:25:22 GMT -5
St. Joe's Alumni magazine just had an article on their campus plans for short and long term. We need something published formally that people can see and rally behind. It feels like things have stalled...at least from a communications standpoint for us. sites.sju.edu/magazine/2019/09/envisioning-a-connected-campus/I have said this for years. How can you rally support when you don’t display or unveil what to support? Maybe this project is too far in the rear view mirror still. Hopefully not but eagerly awaiting word on this. Bumping this because you brought up this same point in the Mason thread, and I was reminded of it today. In fall of 2016 when I was touring colleges with my son, Villanova had a scale model of a campus master plan on display in their equivalent of our Union building. I remember the tour guide talking about all the construction that was about to start, and that while he wouldn't benefit from it directly, the high school seniors touring that day would. Fast forward to today...I moved my son into Villanova's new dorms they just constructed on Lancaster Ave after his semester overseas. (When he toured it was still a parking lot). They were really really impressive, with lots of amenities including quiet study rooms at the end of the hall, modern heating and cooling controls, a gym and restaurant in the complex. Very impressive..especially considering last weekend my daughter did a tour at La Salle and we were shown the North Dorms...which pretty much looked the same as when I lived in them in the early 90s. Point is...Nova communicated a vision to potential students and then acted on it. La Salle needs to do that and start communicating this plan. |
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Post by durenduren on Jan 12, 2020 17:07:28 GMT -5
You're talking about the Taco Bell in College Hall, right? That would seal the deal for me if I was touring.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 12, 2020 20:06:22 GMT -5
Nova’s endowment is roughly 8x La Salle’s.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 12, 2020 21:51:15 GMT -5
Nova’s endowment is roughly 8x La Salle’s. You've missed the point, Joe. It's not about our endowment compared to theirs. No one is expecting state of the art dorms and an arena like Nova has on 20th and Olney. It's about communicating a vision and a plan to get recruits and prospective students excited about being there, and about getting alums and donors on board with that plan. Lack of communication was the point 88 made in the other thread, and the point I reiterated here. St. Joe's communicated a plan as well this past fall. La Salle needs to be communicating as well. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 13, 2020 7:45:28 GMT -5
It’s easy to make a model when the plan is set.
La Salle’s plan isn’t fully set. It’s vague because it relies on funding it doesn’t have yet. They can’t just assume one phone call to Mike Hagan can get them to their goal.
I understand your point, but in a lot of ways the school is playing hold’em with one card in their hand instead of two. Because of that they can’t make a fun model for you to look at because parts of it might never happen.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 13, 2020 8:31:49 GMT -5
It’s easy to make a model when the plan is set. La Salle’s plan isn’t fully set. It’s vague because it relies on funding it doesn’t have yet. They can’t just assume one phone call to Mike Hagan can get them to their goal. I understand your point, but in a lot of ways the school is playing hold’em with one card in their hand instead of two. Because of that they can’t make a fun model for you to look at because parts of it might never happen. It's not about a fun model, Joe. St. Joe's plan is not set either, but they communicated a direction and some proposed renderings in their alumni magazine and online. On a tour at La Salle in September, I heard a prospective parent say, "These facilities look a little dated, are there plans to make any changes?" And the tour guide didn't know. That's information that needs to be out there in an admissions cycle. You don't need a fully baked project plan, but you do need to communicate a vision and direction. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 13, 2020 8:47:23 GMT -5
On a tour at La Salle in September, I heard a prospective parent say, "These facilities look a little dated, are there plans to make any changes?" Anything we built now would be dated by the time their child was ready to enroll. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 18, 2020 18:36:14 GMT -5
Had GW vs UMass on and Dr. G was doing the color commentary. They were discussing the state of the A10 and the announcer asked G what he attributed Duquesne's success to this year. His answer: "Institutional Commitment to the program". He referenced the $40M renovations underway at Duquesne and how that gets everyone on board, including recruits and players.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jan 20, 2020 21:47:04 GMT -5
You don’t hire an AD away from a Big10 school where his primary role was overseeing a massive capital improvement because you think his best value add in his role as your AD will be improving community outreach and APR rates. Both important but not things that are necessarily a shortfall of La Salle Athletics at the moment.
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Post by nealum on Jan 30, 2020 19:55:11 GMT -5
Just saw the highlights from the St. Louis game, and noticed the sparse crowd. Not sure it makes sense to build a new arena if today's college student at LaSalle can't support their team - win or lose. Is it that the school doesn't market the product effectively to students....or that the students just aren't excited enough about hoops to venture out to a game?
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Post by calsufan on Jan 30, 2020 20:07:58 GMT -5
Just saw the highlights from the St. Louis game, and noticed the sparse crowd. Not sure it makes sense to build a new arena if today's college student at LaSalle can't support their team - win or lose. Is it that the school doesn't market the product effectively to students....or that the students just aren't excited enough about hoops to venture out to a game? Will they show up if we're winning or will they show up because the school built a new arena? I think it's the former. |
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 30, 2020 21:13:48 GMT -5
Again, you can’t win without upgrading. There is no escape for La Salle.
Either you do it or tell us all now so we can go home because if they do nothing it is over. Even moving down to MAAC level those schools have better facilities or moving to upgrade their facilities.
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Post by calsufan on Jan 31, 2020 9:04:42 GMT -5
Again, you can’t win without upgrading. There is no escape for La Salle. Either you do it or tell us all now so we can go home because if they do nothing it is over. Even moving down to MAAC level those schools have better facilities or moving to upgrade their facilities. I think you can win without upgrading. Just look at Bonaventure as an example. Now with that being said, I agree that upgrading would definitely help. It really is a chicken and egg situation to some extent. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 31, 2020 9:45:12 GMT -5
Entertainment in Olean is a binary choice of "go see the Bonnies" or "don't go see the Bonnies". They aren't a comp.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 31, 2020 9:52:24 GMT -5
There is no guarantee whatsoever that upgrading our facilities will lead to long-term success for the program. However, NOT upgrading facilities is a guarantee that we WON'T achieve long-term, sustained success.
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