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Post by coqui900 on Feb 1, 2013 12:26:29 GMT -5
Lunardi has us going UP a seed in his latest update. We're now an 11 going up against 6 seed Creighton.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 1, 2013 12:41:38 GMT -5
bottom line is this, the team has played it's way into the tournament. For the next 6 weeks it con only play itself out. It's like being ahead at the 10 minute mark of the 2nd half by 7 or 8 points. Just take care of business the rest of the way and get the win.
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Post by vasalos on Feb 1, 2013 13:44:37 GMT -5
Just win. This weekend's St. Joe's-Temple game is huge! It will propel either team into the tourney race and give them great motivation to beat us.
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Post by La Salle 08 on Feb 1, 2013 15:00:45 GMT -5
Win the big 5 and finish 7-1 at home in conference and we will be called on selection sunday.
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 1, 2013 15:54:24 GMT -5
We are not going to beat Joe's and Owl's and will not finish any better than 6-2 at home in conference play. 9 games remain and 6-3 is as good as it gets and if we lose Saturday watch out for a 9-7 final record in A10 play. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY for a win on Saturday. Loss to undermanned Mass. is a KILLER.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 1, 2013 16:09:39 GMT -5
Come on...this team is for real....it's not a gimmee that they can go 5-3 and 6-2 by any means but it's certainly possible. Everyone (especially me) said we would get blown out by VCU after beating Butler so dramatically and that clearly was not the case, so it's not unreasonable to think we can win the Big 5 with back to back wins over SJU and TU. These guys will have major revenge on their minds as they did with Nova.
Obviously need to win Saturday and it will be tough but not impossible. The 2nd half schedule is pretty favorable all things considered.
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Post by vasalos on Feb 3, 2013 7:42:33 GMT -5
In most brackets that I'm seeing, we're an 11 seed. Can't take any game for granted; The St. Joe's game will be a very significant game.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 3, 2013 8:47:01 GMT -5
Yeah it seems St Joes, Temple and STL are going to be the games separate us from the middle pack in the A-10...
Heck the STL game, this late into the season, could be a NCAA tourney eliminator game... if there is a game or two that doesn't go our way in the remaining stretch..
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 3, 2013 9:38:45 GMT -5
Hykos, I accidentally deleted your post. My apologies. Below is the part that I meant to comment on, but hit modify and delete instead. Well St Joes beat Temple, Charlotte beat UMASS, Richmond beat Xavier Agreed we need Xavier to earn more points so that it does not become a "bad loss" on paper but no Charlotte/UMass results can hurt us, right? ~Joe Fedorowicz Philahoops.com |
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Post by explorerman on Feb 3, 2013 10:28:40 GMT -5
Hykos, I accidentally deleted your post. My apologies. Below is the part that I meant to comment on, but hit modify and delete instead. Well St Joes beat Temple, Charlotte beat UMASS, Richmond beat Xavier Agreed we need Xavier to earn more points so that it does not become a "bad loss" on paper but no Charlotte/UMass results can hurt us, right? ~Joe Fedorowicz Philahoops.com Ha Joe... so what are your thoughts? |
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 3, 2013 11:06:15 GMT -5
We have to win one game against STJ, Temple or ST. L. and win the other five games and we are in provided we win one game in A10 Tourny which would give us a 22-9 record. Actually I think we could lose the opening round in A10 Tourny and still get in at 21-9 but are seed would probably be a 12. Let's make it a 9 seed and go 23-9 at end of A10 Tourny.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 3, 2013 11:08:54 GMT -5
Lunardi had us in at the 6th to last spot... I haven't seen what the teams around did the last couple games to see if there was movement..
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 3, 2013 11:20:23 GMT -5
I was going to say that the only way that RPIs are affected greatly at this point is if teams lose to Fordham, Duquesne or Rhody. No single game outside of those three (and MAYBE the Bonnies) will affect La Salle's RPI very much.
Two losses could change something, but if Butler had say, lost to URI yesterday, La Salle' RPI would be affected a couple spots. With 10 teams in the top-100 (five of them between 47-55) and 13 teams under 140, the Atlantic 10 has become a conference that has insulated itself from most internal RPI struggles (like the Big East).
Sorry again for the misclick.
~Joe Fedorowicz
Philahoops.com
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Post by explorerman on Feb 3, 2013 11:39:52 GMT -5
I was going to say that the only way that RPIs are affected greatly at this point is if teams lose to Fordham, Duquesne or Rhody. No single game outside of those three (and MAYBE the Bonnies) will affect La Salle's RPI very much. Two losses could change something, but if Butler had say, lost to URI yesterday, La Salle' RPI would be affected a couple spots. With 10 teams in the top-100 (five of them between 47-55) and 13 teams under 140, the Atlantic 10 has become a conference that has insulated itself from most internal RPI struggles (like the Big East). Sorry again for the misclick. ~Joe Fedorowicz Philahoops.com Not a problem and I agree on your sediment compared to other... I went ahead and looked to see how a lot of the bubble teams did... Indiana State (5th to last spot) lost to Drake, while the following teams on the last 4, Arizona State, Illinois and Villanova all lost giving us a little breathing room.. Of the first 4 out, St Louis, St Marys and Virginia had wins.. Virginia with a nice win over #19 NC State. Florida State got hammered by Duke.. The teams we are chasing for at large (projected 10 and 9 seeds or within 10 spots of us on the scurve): Iowa State, Kentucky, OK State (over Kansas), UNC, Colorado State won while Colorado, Oklahoma, Baylor lost In total, we are probably sitting pat maybe moving up a spot and we have some new teams behind us with Virginia possible leap frogging us |
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 3, 2013 11:49:27 GMT -5
If we can finish 11-5 we will all but guarantee ourselves a top four finish and a first round bye which many times is a curse instead of a bonus. When reviewing schedules it looks like #1-Butler, #2 St. Louis, #3 La Salle and #4-VCU followed by #5-Char. #6-St. Joe's , #7-Mass. and #8-Temple. We are through the toughest part of our schedule with the three most difficult games being St. Louis, St Joe's and Temple. If somehow we win 2 of 3 versus those teams and don't lose other games we are favored in I think we finish 12-4 and win A10 while holding tie breaker over Butler. 11-5 more likely but would give us top four finish.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 3, 2013 12:07:54 GMT -5
Yeah, you almost want the 5 over the 4 thinking it should be a walk and you head into the next game a win up.
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Post by vasalos on Feb 3, 2013 17:04:22 GMT -5
I was going to say that the only way that RPIs are affected greatly at this point is if teams lose to Fordham, Duquesne or Rhody. No single game outside of those three (and MAYBE the Bonnies) will affect La Salle's RPI very much. Two losses could change something, but if Butler had say, lost to URI yesterday, La Salle' RPI would be affected a couple spots. With 10 teams in the top-100 (five of them between 47-55) and 13 teams under 140, the Atlantic 10 has become a conference that has insulated itself from most internal RPI struggles (like the Big East). Sorry again for the misclick. ~Joe Fedorowicz Philahoops.com Not a problem and I agree on your sediment compared to other... I went ahead and looked to see how a lot of the bubble teams did... Indiana State (5th to last spot) lost to Drake, while the following teams on the last 4, Arizona State, Illinois and Villanova all lost giving us a little breathing room.. Of the first 4 out, St Louis, St Marys and Virginia had wins.. Virginia with a nice win over #19 NC State. Florida State got hammered by Duke.. The teams we are chasing for at large (projected 10 and 9 seeds or within 10 spots of us on the scurve): Iowa State, Kentucky, OK State (over Kansas), UNC, Colorado State won while Colorado, Oklahoma, Baylor lost In total, we are probably sitting pat maybe moving up a spot and we have some new teams behind us with Virginia possible leap frogging us We may not have to worry about Virginia. Depends on what they do in the ACC tourney, but as of today, they are not a tournament team after their GT loss. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 3, 2013 20:35:09 GMT -5
If we just keep winning it won't matter. Like Joe says, at this point our RPI is what it is, probably finishing somewhere between 25-35. Wins at Temple or SLU will be a big help and need to defend the home court the rest of the season. Not sure of SJU really counts as a home or Neutral court game but that is an important one as well. In reality every game is important and the faster we get to 21 wins the better
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Post by explorerman on Feb 4, 2013 7:55:08 GMT -5
Not a problem and I agree on your sediment compared to other... I went ahead and looked to see how a lot of the bubble teams did... Indiana State (5th to last spot) lost to Drake, while the following teams on the last 4, Arizona State, Illinois and Villanova all lost giving us a little breathing room.. Of the first 4 out, St Louis, St Marys and Virginia had wins.. Virginia with a nice win over #19 NC State. Florida State got hammered by Duke.. The teams we are chasing for at large (projected 10 and 9 seeds or within 10 spots of us on the scurve): Iowa State, Kentucky, OK State (over Kansas), UNC, Colorado State won while Colorado, Oklahoma, Baylor lost In total, we are probably sitting pat maybe moving up a spot and we have some new teams behind us with Virginia possible leap frogging us We may not have to worry about Virginia. Depends on what they do in the ACC tourney, but as of today, they are not a tournament team after their GT loss. Add together an Illinois and Villanova loss and we are helped a little |
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 5, 2013 14:52:40 GMT -5
11 seed in Lunardi. 12 seed in Glockner. Neither has us as "Last Four In", so there's a tad bit of breathing room.
Let's get Fordham.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 5, 2013 15:06:07 GMT -5
I think we are squarely in. from here on out the "Must" wins are
Fordham
@uri
GW
DUQ
The not quite "Must" but "really, really need" to win
@sbu
SJU
The "only helps but can't hurt" to win
@tu
@slu
Win all the "Must" games and get 1 of @sbu / SJU and we should be in. Win both of those "should" games and we're probably in. Lose only 1 more game the rest of the regular season and we are guaranteed to be in and A10 tourney will be for seeding purposes only.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 5, 2013 15:38:42 GMT -5
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Post by explorerman on Feb 5, 2013 15:47:53 GMT -5
11 seed in Lunardi. 12 seed in Glockner. Neither has us as "Last Four In", so there's a tad bit of breathing room. Let's get Fordham. It is funny that we are an 11 seed yet if you look at the 9 and 10 seeds, we have a better make up then some of them (UNC, Kentucky, etc) Better RPI, SOS and Top 100 records Which is why on other brackets we are in front of them |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 5, 2013 19:21:01 GMT -5
Kentucky is playing their way back into the tournament right now. UNC has been underwhelming at best and many brackets still have Illinois making it despite an abysmal B1G record. I think part of this is based on some expectations for the remainder of the year even though some guys try to say it's based on if the season ended right now.
I thought that the At large bids were done without team names and solely on Merit? Although I might be wrong b/c there is always the crucial "eye test" for each team. But maybe that's somehow assigned a grade for each team and then the name redacted from the sheet?
Regardless if it came down to La Salle, UNC and Kentucky for the alst 2 spots, no matter how much better our SOS, RPI, record, (and in the case of UK conference affiliation) were we would be left out in the cold
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Post by explorerman on Feb 5, 2013 20:30:55 GMT -5
We are South Carolina (vs Kentucky), Central Michigan (vs Akron) fans tonight
Looks like Villanova and UNC are dominating
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Post by explorerman on Feb 12, 2013 12:12:07 GMT -5
Lunardi moved us down to the last 4 in...
A play in game against Virginia... which I am sure would be fine with us.. This is a Virginia team that was lost to 3 CAA teams including Delaware
Likely is there are plenty of changes moved
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Post by explorerman on Feb 12, 2013 12:14:04 GMT -5
We should also pin this thread as I am sure we are going to be talking on this thread for the next several months
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 12, 2013 12:46:38 GMT -5
Glockner has us in as an 11 seed and not one of the first four in.
Depending how you look at things, I think's pretty safe to say we're one of 10-12 teams with very legitimate arguments for a bid. We're on the good side of the coin right now but any loss the rest of the way can bump us down to First Four Out status and a coin toss.
We obviously didn't do anything bad this week in crushing Fordham. But Indiana State and Illinois fared really well.
Tyreek's shot against Northeastern might be even bigger than Ramon's against Butler. Northeastern has proven itself to be a solid team.
We could/should also create a Bubble Team thread to keep track of who we need to root against.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 12, 2013 12:54:12 GMT -5
Glockner has us in as an 11 seed and not one of the first four in. Depending how you look at things, I think's pretty safe to say we're one of 10-12 teams with very legitimate arguments for a bid. We're on the good side of the coin right now but any loss the rest of the way can bump us down to First Four Out status and a coin toss. We obviously didn't do anything bad this week in crushing Fordham. But Indiana State and Illinois fared really well. Tyreek's shot against Northeastern might be even bigger than Ramon's against Butler. Northeastern has proven itself to be a solid team. We could/should also create a Bubble Team thread to keep track of who we need to root against. Absolutely agree about the latter |
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Post by vasalos on Feb 12, 2013 13:39:02 GMT -5
We are currently projected in the tournament by 70 bracketologists. No need to track bubble teams because we are in control of our own destiny. One bad loss outside of the Temple or St. Louis game and we are NIT bound instead of NCAA bound. It's that simple. bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm*This analysis is not taking into consideration the A10 tournament. |
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