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Post by MisterD on Feb 3, 2016 21:00:06 GMT -5
Yeah, that's great enough that I'm not even bothered by the fact that I specified Boars Head. Not bothered at all. I'm not silently seething on my couch.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 3, 2016 21:11:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that's great enough that I'm not even bothered by the fact that I specified Boars Head. Not bothered at all. I'm not silently seething on my couch. don't make me change that it to Butterball... |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 3, 2016 21:15:41 GMT -5
That is a great peanut butter. Smooth Operator for life.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 3, 2016 21:18:49 GMT -5
That is a great peanut butter. Smooth Operator for life. Atleast I got the peanut butter right. Only 25 lashes! |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 9, 2016 8:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 9, 2016 9:25:23 GMT -5
I don't think this is terrible news. from a top-level view, doesn't it make sense to invest the most money in the things that offer the highest return? If you pool all the areas of the university where investment is purely elective and you have a set amount of resources to invest, the best solution may then be to make the # of pieces of pie lower so that each piece is bigger and hopefully generates greater returns in total $ even if the return % remains flat.
On a human level, it's sad and distressing to see this happen, but we've all been clamoring and complaining about "same ol' La Salle" for years here so now that things are changing, it might not always be pleasant unfortunately and certainly won't be unanimously accepted.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 9, 2016 9:51:41 GMT -5
On a human level, it's sad and distressing to see this happen, but we've all been clamoring and complaining about "same ol' La Salle" for years here so now that things are changing, it might not always be pleasant unfortunately and certainly won't be unanimously accepted. That's good stuff. |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 9, 2016 10:06:46 GMT -5
Yup. Hopefully the buyouts make it worthwhile for those that elect.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 9, 2016 16:07:41 GMT -5
This is something that has pushed by a committee/council over the past couple years. It was disappointing to see how University leadership did not feel a change was needed and now the inaction has only made the problem worse.
This is something that has been talked about on this board for years, yet to decision makers it seemed not to be a concern. I know we talked a couple years about the variety of studies that the University didn't offer that they probably should have. I know I pushed cyber/application security into the now-former Provost for a few years; before he proudly boasted, a year ago, that they were doing a part-time grad program for it. I really wanted to scream at him because Drexel, Temple and UPenn already were in the market by this point. I promise you when I was in his ear, UPENN was the only school in the area with it and was truly financially supporting it. Realistically, that doesn't really matter because we don't market after the same student.
I understand the benefits of a Liberal Arts education (I respect the posters on here that still fight for it, the debates were heated). I understand the balance that it provides, but to excel as a small, private university you need to excel and focus on the studies that the markets demand. The evidence is right here and there is no denying it. We don't have the funds to be able to provide both.
More cuts are still on the way for next year. I can only hope that the new business school building will see continued Biz school application increases. Even though the increase provided to last year's enrollment disappointed a few (as this project has been marketed to 2 enrollment cycles now), as evidenced by the fact that enrollment is down, fairly significantly.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 9, 2016 16:35:58 GMT -5
For the business school (or any facility enhancement) it's hard to sell kids on a hole in the ground - they want to actually see the new building and note hear the promise of something new on the way. I will be concerned if business school enrollment is down 2 years from now.
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Post by gymrat67 on Feb 9, 2016 17:22:40 GMT -5
How many of the 135 unfilled slots in the Fall, 2015 freshman class were due / attributable to the Nursing School accreditation fiasco ( ie, were unfilled nursing school slots ) ?
It would appear, in retrospect, that the School of Nursing grew to become one of the largest undergraduate majors by gradually over time relaxing its academic admission standards, which later became reflected in La Salle's poor pass / fail results in the State nursing exams.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 9, 2016 17:39:14 GMT -5
How many of the 135 unfilled slots in the Fall, 2015 freshman class were due / attributable to the Nursing School accreditation fiasco ( ie, unfilled nursing school slots ) ? It would appear, in retrospect, that the School of Nursing grew to become one of the largest undergraduate majors by gradually over time relaxing its academic admission standards, which later became reflected in La Salle's poor pass / fail results in the State nursing exams. La Salle partnered with a few institutions that provided guaranteed admission into the Nursing program. These partnerships have changed and participation has also. Incoming enrollment (both freshman and transfer) and students that have transferred out (voluntary and involuntary). |
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Post by gymrat67 on Feb 11, 2016 20:19:53 GMT -5
As with the last round of " voluntary " buyouts offered last Summer, implicit in the time deadline for accepting same is the understanding that, if not acted upon, thereafter you may be "RIF'd" without the incentives. The first round of layoffs last Summer did not, for the most part, impact the faculty. The next wave of layoffs will almost certainly entail some number of faculty losing their jobs. Since many of the most senior faculty members have tenure, presumably the only way they can be laid - off is by eliminating majors and / or whole Departments. Regretfully, what this also means is that a number of the impending faculty layoffs will come from the ranks of the untenured faculty of the surviving Departments, some of whom unfortunately may include certain of the younger, highly talented, more energetic, perhaps more progressive instructors who up until now have been doing the bulk of the actual day-to-day teaching. To conserve costs, the tenured faculty members who remain, a number of whom have done minimal actual teaching in recent years, will be required to return ( willingly or unwillingly ) to the classroom and resume carrying full teaching loads in order to justify their high vested salaries. How this will ultimately play out in terms of both faculty and undergraduate student satisfaction / morale remains to be seen. |
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 11, 2016 20:45:21 GMT -5
As with the last round of " voluntary " buyouts offered last Summer, implicit in the time deadline for accepting same is the understanding that, if not acted upon, thereafter you may be "RIF'd" without the incentives. The first round of layoffs last Summer did not, for the most part, impact the faculty. The next wave of layoffs will almost certainly entail some number of faculty losing their jobs. Since many of the most senior faculty members have tenure, presumably the only way they can be laid - off is by eliminating majors and / or whole Departments. Regretfully, what this also means is that a number of the impending faculty layoffs will come from the ranks of the untenured faculty of the surviving Departments, some of whom unfortunately may include certain of the younger, highly talented, more energetic, perhaps more progressive instructors who up until now have been doing the bulk of the actual day-to-day teaching. To conserve costs, the tenured faculty members who remain, a number of whom have done minimal actual teaching in recent years, will be required to return ( willingly or unwillingly ) to the classroom and resume carrying full teaching loads in order to justify their high vested salaries. How this will ultimately play out in terms of both faculty and undergraduate student satisfaction remains to be seen. Hopefully it plays out better than what has happened at Mount St. Marys recently. |
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Post by gymrat67 on Feb 12, 2016 9:13:46 GMT -5
As with the last round of " voluntary " buyouts offered last Summer, implicit in the time deadline for accepting same is the understanding that, if not acted upon, thereafter you may be "RIF'd" without the incentives. The first round of layoffs last Summer did not, for the most part, impact the faculty. The next wave of layoffs will almost certainly entail some number of faculty losing their jobs. Since many of the most senior faculty members have tenure, presumably the only way they can be laid - off is by eliminating majors and / or whole Departments. Regretfully, what this also means is that a number of the impending faculty layoffs will come from the ranks of the untenured faculty of the surviving Departments, some of whom unfortunately may include certain of the younger, highly talented, more energetic, perhaps more progressive instructors who up until now have been doing the bulk of the actual day-to-day teaching. To conserve costs, the tenured faculty members who remain, a number of whom have done minimal actual teaching in recent years, will be required to return ( willingly or unwillingly ) to the classroom and resume carrying full teaching loads in order to justify their high vested salaries. How this will ultimately play out in terms of both faculty and undergraduate student satisfaction remains to be seen. Hopefully it plays out better than what has happened at Mount St. Marys recently.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 13, 2016 9:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by joe on Feb 13, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5
Great move by LaSalle. The school is adding sports that will make money for school. Students will pay to play this sports at the college level.
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 13, 2016 10:24:02 GMT -5
Great move by LaSalle. The school is adding sports that will make money for school. Students will pay to play this sports at the college level. Boo. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2016 8:18:51 GMT -5
Don't make me regret sharing this, but I thought it was note-worthy since the University's direction and agenda keep creeping into daily conversations... And please keep the religion and political angle out of this, as much as possible - nobody comes here for that stuff: mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/hp/news_update&id=370053391Here's another thing that's looking like it has ended up on the President's desk: Gender-neutral housing. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 25, 2016 8:28:23 GMT -5
I am as liberal as they come, but this is just a terrible idea to me. Sticking a bunch of 18-23 year old college students, a group with a penchant for drinking in excess (my favorite penchant at that time), in the same room is just recipe for unwanted sexual advances.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 25, 2016 9:06:36 GMT -5
I am as liberal as they come, but this is just a terrible idea to me. Sticking a bunch of 18-23 year old college students, a group with a penchant for drinking in excess (my favorite penchant at that time), in the same room is just recipe for unwanted sexual advances. Likewise on all accounts... Respect the effort but it is asking for a whole lot of trouble.. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 25, 2016 9:09:36 GMT -5
This sounds like an awesome idea...... to every 18-22 year old guy.
I would have been losing my mind if I was there now and heard the university was possibly striking down this idea that the students had come up with.
Then I grew up and got some perspective on the world and the realities of what 18-22 year olds tend to do. They talk about how tons of other colleges are doing it, well maybe that explains why the rate of sexual assaults on campuses keep rising. As Joe said, unchecked hormones, excessive alcohol and coeds can be combustible with separate living quarters, now you're just putting it all in a pressure cooker.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 25, 2016 9:17:03 GMT -5
You got to "work" your game to get girls into your dorm room. Not be living with them....thats like shooting fish in a barrel.
Let's stick to our Catholic values less we become a quasi-secular Temple.
And as Explorerman said weeks ago...La Salle should stop doing Temple's job for them! Agreed.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2016 9:28:32 GMT -5
They talk about how tons of other colleges are doing it, well maybe that explains why the rate of sexual assaults on campuses keep rising. Because I'm qualified to address this -- one of the leading theories in why there's been a general nationwide rise in reporting of college-related incidents is increased awareness, education for students/faculty/staff, new protocols following Mr Sandusky's disaster (including new federal and state laws instituting training, education, and requirements for identifying mandatory reporters on college campuses), and giving victims multiple resources at different levels to report incidents (Many schools have a three-headed approach combining law enforcement, Title IX representatives, and Counseling and Health representatives - all creating opportunity to report at different levels). Anywho... That being said, I'm sure gender-neutral options have been the culprit of problems too, and I'm not sure that I was mature enough to handle some of the responsibilities that would have came with living in a gender-neutral option, given my penchant for cheap beer too. Think this is a sign that the student body wants progressive leadership though, and Prez seems to have responded in tow, so I'm happy with that, and I think the simple consideration of this idea will go a long way to proving that, versus the reaction a few years ago would have been a definitive 'NO' after the first sentence of the proposal. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2016 9:31:02 GMT -5
This sounds like an awesome idea...... to every 18-22 year old guy. You got to "work" your game to get girls into your dorm room. Not be living with them....thats like shooting fish in a barrel. Every guy at La Salle is like "Why are you blowing up my spot like that?!" |
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Post by calsufan on Feb 25, 2016 9:41:00 GMT -5
I'm not necessarily against gender neutral housing, but hopefully they've done their homework on this. For example, what percentage of the student population has requested this? If it's 10%, fuggetaboutit! If it's say 30% or more then the next question I would ask is what's the split between female and male requestors? Does it match up with our general population split of female / male students or is it mainly horny, male 18-21 year olds? And the last question that comes to mind is, for those schools that have introduced gender neutral housing, have sexual assaults seen an uptick since the introduction of it?
If all of those questions have been vetted (and I'm sure there are more questions than what I listed), then why not roll it out on a limited basis (a few dorms for example) and test it out? Obviously there would need to be a lot of education and coaching for the students who want to live in gender neutral housing, but I don't think it can be dismissed out of hand.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 25, 2016 9:44:58 GMT -5
What is the criteria though? "Friends?" I was friends and then not friends with a bunch of girls in college. Sometimes on a week-by-week basis. I married one of them.
Is it going to be a check box? Where the female or male doesn't get to vet the other person? Or is it going to be a group like it is now. This group of 5 people want to live in a townhouse...who cares if they're male or female. Maybe, but I see a couple problems each year where someone wants out.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 25, 2016 9:47:12 GMT -5
This sounds like an awesome idea...... to every 18-22 year old guy. You got to "work" your game to get girls into your dorm room. Not be living with them....thats like shooting fish in a barrel. Every guy at La Salle is like "Why are you blowing up my spot like that?!" Great another reason for students to not attend Gola games as they are preoccupied playing house with their coed roomates. |
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Post by calsufan on Feb 25, 2016 9:56:17 GMT -5
What is the criteria though? "Friends?" I was friends and then not friends with a bunch of girls in college. Sometimes on a week-by-week basis. I married one of them. Is it going to be a check box? Where the female or male doesn't get to vet the other person? Or is it going to be a group like it is now. This group of 5 people want to live in a townhouse...who cares if they're male or female. Maybe, but I see a couple problems each year where someone wants out. Those are valid questions, but I'll leave that to the administration to figure out. They don't have to re-invent the wheel here, they just need to find the best practices on this particular situation. |
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Post by charmcityexplorer on Feb 25, 2016 12:09:57 GMT -5
What is the criteria though? "Friends?" I was friends and then not friends with a bunch of girls in college. Sometimes on a week-by-week basis. I married one of them. Is it going to be a check box? Where the female or male doesn't get to vet the other person? Or is it going to be a group like it is now. This group of 5 people want to live in a townhouse...who cares if they're male or female. Maybe, but I see a couple problems each year where someone wants out. I'm sure that there are currently a couple of problems (or more) each year between roommates where someone wants out. I don't see where permitting co-Ed housing will create a new issue, though it may add a new dynamic to an existing one. |
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