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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 17, 2013 19:44:25 GMT -5
Anyone get there today? I wanted to try and go to dinner but wasn't able to get schedules cleared up
Would love to hear about it- I know the golf was sold out which is absolutely awesome
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Post by DE-LSU84 on Jun 18, 2013 7:39:09 GMT -5
The friends of Bill R. golf outing is truely one of the years events that is must for LaSalle fans and alumni. Frank Corace and his crew do a fantastic job and put on a class event. I was very proud to be a LaSalle alum yesterday.
I know several people have differing opinions on last nights honoree, Speedy Morris, but my opinion is it is nice to have him back within the LaSalle community and part of the family again. He even said soo last night and you could tell he was truely thankfully to be back. Coach Giannini spoke about several of his players and the off season conditioning/workouts and summer school. I had a chance to speak with him afterwards and asked about one player he didn't mention, Tony Washington. It was a sincere brain cramp on his part to omit Tony, however, he mention that Washington is not qualified and probably not going see that court next year. Coach is comfortable with this situation. He did state that Mr. Washington is a very intelligent young man who attends an extremely prestigious high school and not a diploma factory. He is a true student athlete and will be very nice addition to the LaSalle community.
All in all a great night for the Explorers.
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Post by explorerman on Jun 18, 2013 8:54:29 GMT -5
The friends of Bill R. golf outing is truely one of the years events that is must for LaSalle fans and alumni. Frank Corace and his crew do a fantastic job and put on a class event. I was very proud to be a LaSalle alum yesterday. I know several people have differing opinions on last nights honoree, Speedy Morris, but my opinion is it is nice to have him back within the LaSalle community and part of the family again. He even said soo last night and you could tell he was truely thankfully to be back. Coach Giannini spoke about several of his players and the off season conditioning/workouts and summer school. I had a chance to speak with him afterwards and asked about one player he didn't mention, Tony Washington. It was a sincere brain cramp on his part to omit Tony, however, he mention that Washington is not qualified and probably not going see that court next year. Coach is comfortable with this situation. He did state that Mr. Washington is a very intelligent young man who attends an extremely prestigious high school and not a diploma factory. He is a true student athlete and will be very nice addition to the LaSalle community. All in all a great night for the Explorers. Yep if he doesn't qualify then there is a schollie available for next year for a one year player
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Post by cva43 on Jun 18, 2013 9:30:13 GMT -5
I understand that a financial package has been put together for Washington if he is a non qualifer. In all likelihood, Washington will be redshirted if he qualifies.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 18, 2013 9:30:19 GMT -5
So does that mean he will be one of those Prop 48 guys like Steve Smith? Meaning, he can still play for 4 years once he qualifies?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 9:35:43 GMT -5
So does that mean he will be one of those Prop 48 guys like Steve Smith? Meaning, he can still play for 4 years once he qualifies? Yes, he'll have 5 years to use his eligibility. I'm not sure if he has to graduate in 4 years to get that 5th year, or if he only has to be making sufficient academic progress towards a degree by the end of the 4th year. I believe he took the June 1st SAT so there's still a shot he could qualify. Those results are due back on June 20th. If he took the June ACT, those results are due back on June 24th.
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Post by casey44 on Jun 18, 2013 9:45:59 GMT -5
Do we have room for Marshall, if it comes to that, without taking from another kid? In recounting it looks like we are out.
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Post by 23won on Jun 18, 2013 12:01:15 GMT -5
Who is Marshall?
Bummed to hear about Tony W. Hopefully we don't lose him. If he takes the financial package, I assume he couldn't practice with the team, correct?
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 18, 2013 12:46:02 GMT -5
he's on campus now I believe isn't he? I thought I saw a twitter post about it...
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 18, 2013 15:07:22 GMT -5
Dissapointing news with Washington but I have a feeling Zack, Wright, Rohan and maybe even Davis will be able to hold down the front court.
Anyway G mention anything about scheduling....still waiting to hear about this big game.
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Post by casey44 on Jun 18, 2013 15:19:31 GMT -5
Jemaine Marshall was a 2gd. who decided to leave PSU for the pros and yesterday decided to transfer to another school for his sr. yr instead. I believe he would have been the second leading returning sr. in Big Ten at 15.2ppg.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 16:44:36 GMT -5
Maybe he'd take a one year big man if he wouldn't upset the team chemistry, but I'm pretty sure that G would have no interest in Marshall.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 18, 2013 18:16:00 GMT -5
So does that mean he will be one of those Prop 48 guys like Steve Smith? Meaning, he can still play for 4 years once he qualifies? From the Clearinghouse website: Once certified by the NCAA Clearinghouse, what is the difference between a qualifier and a non-qualifier? Qualifier: Eligible for athletically related financial aid, practice and competition during your first year of enrollment at a NCAA member institution. You have 5 years to play 4 seasons in your sport if you maintain your eligibility from year to year.
Non-qualifier: Ineligible for athletically-related financial aid, practice and competition during your first year at a NCAA member institution. You have 4 years to play 3 seasons in your sport if you maintain your eligibility from year to year.* * Non-qualifiers have the ability to gain back a year of eligibility if they complete at least 80 percent of their degree prior to the beginning of their fifth year of college.That last part is what's important, obviously. But if everything being said about Tony's brains and his strong high school, it shouldn't be an issue to get that year of eligibility back. Shame, but glad G isn't pissing a year of Tony's eligibility away if he can't hang.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 18, 2013 19:55:12 GMT -5
Maybe he'd take a one year big man if he wouldn't upset the team chemistry, but I'm pretty sure that G would have no interest in Marshall. Why do you say that. If Tony isn't qualified Marshall be a great option. He a guard that averages 15.3 PPG and an impact player just like Ramon. He a versatile player get rebounds, shares the ball and creates turnovers he even prefer to play as a PG. Although, he not a great three point shooter he still solid. He fast off the dribble and can create plays. However there is a slim ...slim shot we get him. I saw some temple fans tweeting about picking him up but we have a better shot getting him easily. He wants to play for a team that has a strong chance at the NCAA, Temple doesn't have that. We fit the bill in terms of area and the NCAA but I think he wants to stay in a major conference. Rumors are swirling about Maryland if so they could be the most dangerous team in the ACC next year. Article on Yahoo talks about all of this for the most part.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 18, 2013 20:07:32 GMT -5
Any mention or discussion at the Golf Outing about the current status of the structural studies / cost estimates regarding the feasibility of doing a possible further interim retrofit on TGA / Hayman to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court from N-S to E-W in order to create additional seating capacity behind the backboards at each end ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 20:44:06 GMT -5
he's on campus now I believe isn't he? I thought I saw a twitter post about it... Cleon Roberts is on campus but the incoming freshman can't start until the second summer session which usually starts the last week of June.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 20:53:45 GMT -5
Maybe he'd take a one year big man if he wouldn't upset the team chemistry, but I'm pretty sure that G would have no interest in Marshall. Why do you say that. G will not add another guard to the roster unless it's a very good transfer who would be willing to sit a year or a freshman who would be willing to red shirt. G will not take minutes away from Tyreek, Tyrone, Sam, DJ, or Khalid and give them to a one year player. There are just not enough minutes to go around for six guards.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 18, 2013 21:02:56 GMT -5
retrofit on TGA / Hayman to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court from N-S to E-W in order to create additional seating I understand the concept, but I've always doubted the feasibility of it because of the awkward slope of the north/south walls. I just don't know if it'd be conducive to seating without a major retrofit/complete re-engineering of those north/south walls. Now I'm analyzing pictures of Gola like I didn't study social sciences.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 18, 2013 21:28:29 GMT -5
retrofit on TGA / Hayman to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court from N-S to E-W in order to create additional seating I understand the concept, but I've always doubted the feasibility of it because of the awkward slope of the north/south walls. I just don't know if it'd be conducive to seating without a major retrofit/complete re-engineering of those north/south walls. Now I'm analyzing pictures of Gola like I didn't study social sciences. If you ever seen the court open with all the seats up it is huge. There 3 courts in the arena why IDK. Practices courts could be added any where else. The court should have been contructed the opposite way with seats all the way around. They dont need a vast amount of seats on the sides. I was just taking a look at some pictures and I know there a certain sections that are more slanted than others but they easily be able to have at least 15 to 20 rows on the sides. Have the side seats be for alumni and ends for students. The seats that are all the way up serve no purpose, its not that its a bad view but no one sits up there. Students jam on the benches. Put seats it and make a real arena. There no need to build a new arena they have the space they just need to make the move to renovate. I dont know about you but I dont mind the team playing at the Palestra for a season.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 18, 2013 21:45:08 GMT -5
If you ever seen the court open with all the seats up it is huge. I, too, went to La Salle. They dont need a vast amount of seats on the sides. I thought this was all about increasing seating, making this less of a high school gym? Isn't the gripe that we only seat 4k and change? I was just taking a look at some pictures and I know there a certain sections that are more slanted than others... Huh? Those angled north/south walls the entire length, where the east/west runs perpendicular to the floor. My point is that you can't nestle seating along non-perpendicular walls without wasting immense space. Shit, when the band used to sit back there years ago, kids would hit their heads on the wall.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 18, 2013 22:02:19 GMT -5
I've never been in favor of any kind of renovation, if it delays the building of a new arena by even 1 day. As to the possible renovations for Gola, I can't see any that will solve any of our problems.
The fact that Gola has no seats behind the basket is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem: namely that TGA is a High School gym in nearly every conceivable way. Flipping the court, and having 15 rows of seating along the side of the court, and most of the seating behind the baskets? That's going to look incredibly bizarre.
It also won't fix the problems of the arena being on the 3rd floor, having no concession stands, coming in to the arena on the same level as the floor, etc. And it would likely cost a significant amount of money, and would be seen as "fixing the problem" from some of the highers ups. So I'm not in favor of it.
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Post by calsufan on Jun 18, 2013 22:30:37 GMT -5
I've never been in favor of any kind of renovation, if it delays the building of a new arena by even 1 day. As to the possible renovations for Gola, I can't see any that will solve any of our problems. The fact that Gola has no seats behind the basket is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem: namely that TGA is a High School gym in nearly every conceivable way. Flipping the court, and having 15 rows of seating along the side of the court, and most of the seating behind the baskets? That's going to look incredibly bizarre. It also won't fix the problems of the arena being on the 3rd floor, having no concession stands, coming in to the arena on the same level as the floor, etc. And it would likely cost a significant amount of money, and would be seen as "fixing the problem" from some of the highers ups. So I'm not in favor of it. +1. Yeah, what he said.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 18, 2013 23:29:51 GMT -5
I was originally a proponent of doing this renovation ASAP but I'm wavering the more I think about it. Unless there is going to be some MAJOR renovation of TGA that addresses everything but the fact it's in the 3rd floor I think it could be a long term mistake that was worse than the original mistake of not following Louth's design
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Post by durenduren on Jun 18, 2013 23:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 0:29:53 GMT -5
Louth posts here but not a lot. He's a very loyal '71 alum. Back when Gola was renovated into what it is now, there was a second design that was considered. It was for a 6,000+ seat arena with new locker rooms, concession stands, and seats behind the basket. The court would have still gone in the same direction it goes now, but part of the Olney Ave wall was going to be blown out to make enough room for seats behind the baskets. Louth and a couple other alums presented La Salle with the design and offered to have it done at cost. It would have cost the same or a little less than what they paid for the current design. For some inexplicable reason, the current design was chosen instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 0:54:03 GMT -5
I've never been in favor of any kind of renovation, if it delays the building of a new arena by even 1 day. As to the possible renovations for Gola, I can't see any that will solve any of our problems. The fact that Gola has no seats behind the basket is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem: namely that TGA is a High School gym in nearly every conceivable way. Flipping the court, and having 15 rows of seating along the side of the court, and most of the seating behind the baskets? That's going to look incredibly bizarre. It also won't fix the problems of the arena being on the 3rd floor, having no concession stands, coming in to the arena on the same level as the floor, etc. And it would likely cost a significant amount of money, and would be seen as "fixing the problem" from some of the highers ups. So I'm not in favor of it. +1. Yeah, what he said. I want a new arena just as much as you guys, and I hate to be negative or thinking too small, but IMO, it's just never going to happen unless a super rich donor or two or three combine to drop $30 million on La Salle. To build a brand new 5k capacity arena/student rec facility in Philadelphia today would cost a minimum of $50-$60 million. La Salle could never justify spending that much on an athletic facility unless the vast majority of the cost was covered by private donations. I don't see that happening anytime soon. The temporary fix that was being considered would have been a waste of money. There was no way it was going to be much of an improvement over the current facility because the rumored amount of money that they were planning to spend was nowhere near enough to make it worthwhile doing. But Gola could be made into a pretty nice arena if they spent enough money. I'd be shocked if it would cost more than $20-$25 million to do a first class renovation with a lot of the needed amenities. Not saying it will be easy, but $20-$25 million is a much more feasable goal for La Salle to raise than $50-$60 million. Find one or two main donors to get the ball rolling and raise the rest with a capital campaign and maybe use some of the money from the Sweet 16 run with hopefully more NCAA money coming in after the coming season. I will be perfectly fine with a renovated Gola as long as they do it right. Again, I'd love a brand new building, but I just can't see the finances ever coming together for a project that expensive.
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Post by cpico on Jun 19, 2013 1:01:11 GMT -5
Maybe he'd take a one year big man if he wouldn't upset the team chemistry, but I'm pretty sure that G would have no interest in Marshall. Why do you say that. If Tony isn't qualified Marshall be a great option. He a guard that averages 15.3 PPG and an impact player just like Ramon. He a versatile player get rebounds, shares the ball and creates turnovers he even prefer to play as a PG. Although, he not a great three point shooter he still solid. He fast off the dribble and can create plays. However there is a slim ...slim shot we get him. I saw some temple fans tweeting about picking him up but we have a better shot getting him easily. He wants to play for a team that has a strong chance at the NCAA, Temple doesn't have that. We fit the bill in terms of area and the NCAA but I think he wants to stay in a major conference. Rumors are swirling about Maryland if so they could be the most dangerous team in the ACC next year. Article on Yahoo talks about all of this for the most part. Actually, Marshall would not be a great option for our team. We are set at guard - Duren, Mills, Garland, Lewis and Peterson. Why would anyone even think of bringing in another guard to play this upcoming season at at this point? Totally agree with kjmac - coach would have no interest in Marshall. Maybe a team that needs guards and has no guard depth like St. Joe's (but they are a middle of the pack A-10 team that really doesn't have a shot at the NCAA's this upcoming year) would be interested. But with our depth and talent at guard we have no need for Marshall. Coach recruited who he wants at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 1:03:38 GMT -5
Why do you say that. If Tony isn't qualified Marshall be a great option. He a guard that averages 15.3 PPG and an impact player just like Ramon. He a versatile player get rebounds, shares the ball and creates turnovers he even prefer to play as a PG. Although, he not a great three point shooter he still solid. He fast off the dribble and can create plays. However there is a slim ...slim shot we get him. I saw some temple fans tweeting about picking him up but we have a better shot getting him easily. He wants to play for a team that has a strong chance at the NCAA, Temple doesn't have that. We fit the bill in terms of area and the NCAA but I think he wants to stay in a major conference. Rumors are swirling about Maryland if so they could be the most dangerous team in the ACC next year. Article on Yahoo talks about all of this for the most part. Actually, Marshall would not be a great option for our team. We are set at guard - Duren, Mills, Garland, Lewis and Peterson. Why would anyone even think of bringing in another guard to play this upcoming season at at this point? Totally agree with kjmac - coach would have no interest in Marshall. Maybe a team that needs guards and has no guard depth like St. Joe's (but they are a middle of the pack A-10 team that really doesn't have a shot at the NCAA's this upcoming year) would be interested. But with our depth and talent at guard we have no need for Marshall. Coach recruited who he wants at this point. Hawks don't have any scholarships left, so they're not an option for Marshall either.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 19, 2013 1:17:19 GMT -5
it's just never going to happen unless a super rich donor or two or three combine to drop $30 million on La Salle. To build a brand new 5k capacity arena/student rec facility in Philadelphia today would cost a minimum of $50-$60 million. La Salle could never justify spending that much on an athletic facility unless the vast majority of the cost was covered by private donations. Guys, I got this... Dear Mr Nutter and Mr Corbett,
La Salle would graciously accept a giant check with an equally giant number on it, much like how Rahm Emmanuel tossed DePaul a cool $300 million from taxpayers' wallets. And we're cool sharing the arena for some conventions and crap. I heard the Harlem Globe Trotters and the Ringling Bros. are tired of the Liacouras Center. Oh, and Nutter-Butter, there's a La Salle hat in it for you - God knows your ever-changing hat collection could use more La Salle.
Ps. Elephants at La Salle versus the Phila Public School System? No brainer.
Sincerely, La Salle University Your Homies From Olney 19141, Yo.
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Post by cpico on Jun 19, 2013 1:21:04 GMT -5
Actually, Marshall would not be a great option for our team. We are set at guard - Duren, Mills, Garland, Lewis and Peterson. Why would anyone even think of bringing in another guard to play this upcoming season at at this point? Totally agree with kjmac - coach would have no interest in Marshall. Maybe a team that needs guards and has no guard depth like St. Joe's (but they are a middle of the pack A-10 team that really doesn't have a shot at the NCAA's this upcoming year) would be interested. But with our depth and talent at guard we have no need for Marshall. Coach recruited who he wants at this point. Hawks don't have any scholarships left, so they're not an option for Marshall either. Thanks kjmac.
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