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Post by explorer88 on Jun 7, 2013 8:16:51 GMT -5
I don't understand those that try and use last year RPI numbers as a gauge for how the RPI numbers will work this year. Too many variables exist to use that IMO. G and his staff need to determine which teams will boost our RPI if we schedule them and balance that against teams we can beat. It really is a science/math project every season. For the most part G does a good job of it.
People complained last year and yet his bad scheduling got us into the tournament. Every year we go through this excercise.
I am not going to lie, I hate playing Sacred Heart in an empty gym in late December and winning by 40. I would much rather play Clemson at that time even with a chance to lose the game but I can understand how G needs to manipulate the schedule and for ther most part he does a good job.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 7, 2013 10:48:02 GMT -5
Thank you explorer88....this guy obviously has some type of issue comparing irrelevant data from last year. All I am pointing out is their schedule is stronger this year than ours, it clearly is this year. I am not bashing the program or anything just saying are scheduling could be better.
Explorer88 I liked are schedule last year a lot....I knew we were going to have a tough conference with VCU and Butler being in the conference plus a number of teams being really good. The out of conference games was not a huge concern to me because of it. This year though with a weaker devision it be nice to replace the sacred heart game or another weak team with a high caliber team from a major conference whether we win or not.
La Salle08 if you have such a problem with me posting don't read it simple enough right? Or better yet don't post irrelevant data based on last year.
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Post by calsufan on Jun 7, 2013 11:11:59 GMT -5
Thank you explorer88....this guy obviously has some type of issue comparing irrelevant data from last year. All I am pointing out is their schedule is stronger this year than ours, it clearly is this year. I am not bashing the program or anything just saying are scheduling could be better. Explorer88 I liked are schedule last year a lot....I knew we were going to have a tough conference with VCU and Butler being in the conference plus a number of teams being really good. The out of conference games was not a huge concern to me because of it. This year though with a weaker devision it be nice to replace the sacred heart game or another weak team with a high caliber team from a major conference whether we win or not. La Salle08 if you have such a problem with me posting don't read it simple enough right? Or better yet don't post irrelevant data based on last year. Why exactly is his data irrelevant merely because it's from last year? Can anyone predict how a team will play this year? No, but you can extrapolate what their rpi could be the coming year if they have a somewhat similar year over year schedule. It's not perfect, but why is it worse than taking a W.A.G.?
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 7, 2013 11:44:22 GMT -5
RPI from last year is pretty damn relevant. It's not the be all and end all, but it's some of the best information available.
The schedule is fine. Could it be a little better? Sure. But you can't just demand to play UNC and make it so.
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Post by explorer88 on Jun 7, 2013 11:46:39 GMT -5
It is a little of everything. Last year's RPI has some relevance in the equation but there are other variable at work and need to be considered.
Consider:
Who will play us? Are they expected to have a high RPI? High win total? Is a TV game at work or being considered? Are we playing a team for recruiting/senior away from home purposes? Injuries? What type of teams can we beat vs. struggle against? What is the ratio of teams? Guaranteed Wins? How many to schedule? How secure is the coach in his job to take chances versus guarantees?
A ton of thought is given with many variables to consider.
For each of us we all probably have different desires who we would like to see La Salle schedule. No matter who is on the schedule some will want something different. No right or wrong here just different tastes unless you have a coach who has no clue how it all works. G is not one of those coaches thankfully.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 7, 2013 12:13:35 GMT -5
G's piss-poor scheduling did the trick last year, and we're sitting here, complaining again. Relax, my friends. It's June and we're having a cow. Have faith.
Ps. RPI from last season can't be pushed aside as if it's nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 12:28:42 GMT -5
Previous season's RPI's usually are a pretty good barometer of who on your schedule is going to be a major drag on your RPI. It's unlikely someone in the upper 200's or worse is going to improve very much unless there were extenuating circumstances the previous season (injuries, academic casualties).
The only thing I would change about the projected 2013-14 OOC schedule (without knowing who the last two games are against) would be to add a Palestra home game against a Top 50 RPI opponent who could generate enough fan interest to sell a lot of tickets. Other than that, the schedule is fine and was put together to give this team a chance to go back to the NCAA tournament. There's a number of very winnable road and neutral court games against teams which should have solid RPI's. Winning these games will count for more in the RPI calculation than a home win.
IMO, while there are teams on the schedule whose RPI's will have a noticeable drop (Miami, Temple, possibly MTSU and N.Iowa in the third round of the PJ), most of the other teams should see moderate to significant improvement based on them returning the bulk of their rotations and/or adding impact newcomers.
I see Manhattan, Penn State, Vanderbilt, Providence, and Penn making significant RPI jumps with Villanova and Maryland making moderate jumps. Hartford returns the bulk of their roster so they should be improved. Hopefully La Salle doesn't have to play Loyola Marymount or Marist, but both of them return a lot (not sure if that's good or bad)so they should be improved as well. People might think Manhattan will stink because they're in the MAAC, but they return almost everyone and get back an injured grad student who avgd 17 ppg and 6 rbds before he got hurt, plus they add a stud big man transfer in 6'10" Ashton Pankey from North Jersey who was a rotation player at Maryland two years ago. Like Delaware was last year, this is going to make for a very competitive Homecoming game. I will be shocked if they don't have a RPI in the 75-100 range.
And I'm not sure what the fascination is with the UMass schedule. New Mexico, Harvard, and BC should be pretty good, but Temple, BYU, Davidson, Ohio, and Florida State all took significant hits from graduation or transfers. The rest of their schedule is mediocre to poor at best with some guaranteed RPI killers in Eastern Michigan, Miami of Ohio, Siena, and Northern Illinois.
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Post by coqui900 on Jun 7, 2013 13:35:53 GMT -5
When does the season start? Dom Brown and the Phils this week have me back into Phillies mode but I wish it was the season already.
If we played Penn State at the Palestra this year, I wonder what the attendance would be? Any thoughts as to what the Sweet 16 bump will be?
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 7, 2013 13:50:43 GMT -5
if we didn't play PSU at 9:00 on a weeknight I bet it would be 5,000+ with 1,500 or so PSU fans in attendance.
Don't buy the Phillies winning ways as an indicator of future events, they are playing the Marlins and Brewers right now.
I too would love to get a top-50 team to come play us at the Palestra, but in reality, that's going to be real hard to schedule because odds are pretty high that we would beat said Top-50 team and they don't want to lose those OOC games to anyone unless we're a top 10 RPI...which we aren't going to see next year either.
MAYBE you could get a team like UVA to come up here but that's probably a stretch considering their brutal ACC schedule, other than that I'm not sure how you get anyone to come here of note. These teams will really only come to town to play Nova because they are perceived to be the best team in town, even if it's not the case.
Maybe with some of the NCAA G could buy a game here but that would be really tough.
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Post by ck on Jun 7, 2013 14:39:58 GMT -5
Phillies are probably fool's gold. Wait until they play some major league teams.
I do think Penn State is quite possible to get at the Palestra. The new coach there seems to be stressing Phila. area recruiting.
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Post by durenduren on Jun 7, 2013 18:20:50 GMT -5
Phillies are probably fool's gold. Wait until they play some major league teams. I'm conflicted in blowing them up, shipping off Lee and Papelbon because their value will never be this high, or hoping to beat out the Pirates for the 2nd wildcard letting this play out in October. But I saw them up in Boston, and we split 4 games with them... If we played Penn State at the Palestra this year, I wonder what the attendance would be? Any thoughts as to what the Sweet 16 bump will be? It could be great, but easily could not be. This is an outside perspective, but I think Penn State basketball is still largely irrelevant in Happy Valley, or at least they're treated as such. And we've got such a fickle fan base. Maybe I'm still scarred from years past, but one mediocre loss and it could erase the Sweet 16 success in the minds of your fair-weather fan just like that. Kick ass at the tournament, top Maryland or something, I'd expect that place to be rocking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 20:51:16 GMT -5
Temple published their OOC schedule today. They visit Gola on Saturday January 18th.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 25, 2013 21:02:21 GMT -5
I was going to complain it's the one of the weeks of the NFL Playoffs being on Saturday, but it's the week after, the week of the Conference Championship Games (both on Sunday).
Hopefully our OOC comes out soon.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 25, 2013 21:17:55 GMT -5
First weekend back from break. Great day for the game La Salle will be rowdy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 8:07:24 GMT -5
Kind of surprised that the golf outing was over a week ago and none of the posters here who attended haven't mentioned the tentative OOC schedule that was given out at the dinner afterwards. Two people I know who don't post here emailed me the info but I've held off posting it because I thought someone who was at the outing would be doing it.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 26, 2013 8:34:13 GMT -5
Kind of surprised that the golf outing was over a week ago and none of the posters here who attended haven't mentioned the tentative OOC schedule that was given out at the dinner afterwards. Two people I know who don't post here emailed me the info but I've held off posting it because I thought someone who was at the outing would be doing it. Don't hold out, please share it would love to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 8:40:59 GMT -5
Temple published their OOC schedule today. They visit Gola on Saturday January 18th. Rollout: You never were really in Villanova's league!
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 26, 2013 16:06:35 GMT -5
CAN WE PLEASE GET AN UPDATE ON THIS TENTATIVE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU!
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Post by olneyman on Jun 27, 2013 8:28:32 GMT -5
CAN WE PLEASE GET AN UPDATE ON THIS TENTATIVE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU Schedule handout was listed as tentative and date of Temple game has already changed apparently. May be room for another non-conf game or two? No dates yet for the A10 games. 11-9 Manhattan 11-16. Siena 11-19. At Penn State 11-22. Morgan St. (Paradise Jam) 11/23 or 24. Vandy/Prov. (PJ) 11/25. MD/Northern Iowa/Marist/LMU. (PJ) 12/1. Temple 12/4. Hartford 12/15. At Villanova 12/19. Wagner 12/22. At Miami 1/4. At Penn
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 8:50:28 GMT -5
CAN WE PLEASE GET AN UPDATE ON THIS TENTATIVE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU Schedule handout was listed as tentative and date of Temple game has already changed apparently. May be room for another non-conf game or two? No dates yet for the A10 games. 11-9 Manhattan 11-16. Siena 11-19. At Penn State 11-22. Morgan St. (Paradise Jam) 11/23 or 24. Vandy/Prov. (PJ) 11/25. MD/Northern Iowa/Marist/LMU. (PJ) 12/1. Temple 12/4. Hartford 12/15. At Villanova 12/19. Wagner 12/22. At Miami 1/4. At Penn Thanks olneyman. I'm pretty sure there are two games left to fill. Not 100% sure of this, but I believe the Middle Tennessee game is off and was replaced by the home game with Wagner.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 27, 2013 9:14:58 GMT -5
It has to be a clean sweep of the Manhattan's, Wagner's, and Hartford's of the world this year. Absolute must, with the hit the RPI is going to take with the A-10 defections.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jun 27, 2013 10:25:15 GMT -5
Looks like the Nova game would be Sunday after finals week. At least it's a Sunday and not a Saturday game. I like that because I always hated playing Saturday after finals week. Feels like back in the 90s we played Drexel in that slot every year and lost to them a bunch. Just a feeling, I might be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 18:40:38 GMT -5
I've debated posting about this since I came across it online over the weekend. I'm going to be vague because I don't want to take away from the anticipation of the formal press releases from La Salle and the broadcast outlet which should probably come out in the next week or two.
At least one of the last two OOC games has been finalized and it will be part of a showcase event on national TV but it will not be against a team from a power conference.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 17, 2013 19:19:59 GMT -5
Damn you!
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Post by MisterD on Jul 17, 2013 19:20:11 GMT -5
La Salle Explorers @ Aaric Murray + TBA???
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Post by durenduren on Jul 17, 2013 20:04:39 GMT -5
Oh, that's cruel.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 17, 2013 20:09:12 GMT -5
I've debated posting about this since I came across it online over the weekend. I'm going to be vague because I don't want to take away from the anticipation of the formal press releases from La Salle and the broadcast outlet which should probably come out in the next week or two. At least one of the last two OOC games has been finalized and it will be part of a showcase event on national TV but it will not be against a team from a power conference. How about sending a private message to the Moderator who's worked so hard on this site and is very anxious to hear what you have to say, and promises not to spoil it?
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 17, 2013 20:19:51 GMT -5
My guess is that it's the tip-off marathon. Last year's was released in July, and we don't seem to have a game between 11/9 and 11/16.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jul 17, 2013 20:45:14 GMT -5
Any chance at the pre-season NIT or are we not permitted to because of Paradise Jam??
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 17, 2013 20:56:31 GMT -5
I think your right neumann. I found that Wichita State is in this tip off against WKU. Still digging. It would make sense though if we were in this tip off. No game scheduled we heard rumors of a Wichita State match up early in the off season. Perhaps they scheduled us with someone else?
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