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Post by vasalos on Mar 6, 2013 20:56:27 GMT -5
21 wins ad a bye for the A10 tourney
44 Forecasted and live rpi
Some say A10 tourney win is a must but I don't buy it since we have a bye
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Post by ltrain38 on Mar 6, 2013 20:57:43 GMT -5
Probably move ahead of Temple on RPI tonight, even though they won big. Fordham drops them a few spots. Also, if Dayton holds on, they should be top 100 now, so that helps.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 6, 2013 20:57:58 GMT -5
Right now, we would either be Play-In game or totally at the mercy of what every other Bubble team does. 1 more win eliminates all doubt.
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Post by explorerman on Mar 6, 2013 21:01:45 GMT -5
Don't worry ESPN is having Nova leap us with their win over GTown...
Big East is so overrated.. What an ugly game... 35 turnovers and bad shooters
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Post by coachd on Mar 6, 2013 21:07:27 GMT -5
Georgetown can't beat Nova in a big game, again!
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Post by explorerman on Mar 6, 2013 21:18:56 GMT -5
Iowa State also gets Top 25 win...
You can the argument we are actually further away from making it... I can see where bracket people now move Villanova and Iowa State over us and we will be in the last 4 come friday... Soo bad
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Post by mikesmd77 on Mar 6, 2013 21:21:58 GMT -5
I put our chances of making it at 70% without anymore wins, and up to 90% with a win saturday, and 80% with a loss Saturday but one win in Brooklyn. I say we just win the damn thing in Brooklyn and eliminate all doubt but the location and seed!
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Post by explorerman on Mar 6, 2013 21:26:06 GMT -5
I put our chances of making it at 70% without anymore wins, and up to 90% with a win saturday, and 80% with a loss Saturday but one win in Brooklyn. I say we just win the damn thing in Brooklyn and eliminate all doubt but the location and seed! Like the optimism.. This bubble is getting smaller and we are winning games we are supposed to win but not winning these Top 25 games because frankly we haven't had the chance... Some one is going to win a conference tournament that they are not supposed to win... Making the bubble smaller...
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Post by mikesmd77 on Mar 6, 2013 21:33:05 GMT -5
Our resume is strong. We only have one bad loss, while most bubble teams have multiple bad losses. We have a significant amount of true road wins, which supposedly is a main ingredient to the committee. We've played well down the stretch, and the A10 is pretty respected this year. I think the optimism is warranted. It'd be big time snub to not be in regardless of how we do from here on out. We're one of the top 4 teams in the A10 and that alone should open most eyes. We've beaten 2 of the top 5 programs in the A10 who have been spent a decent portion of the season in the top 25, and VCU is considered to be one of the best home teams and we went down there and beat them. I don't even think there's anyway we should be a playin game team, we should be IN.
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Post by nepaexplorer on Mar 6, 2013 21:36:22 GMT -5
Still, I'd hate to see us lose on Saturday, and then get bounced in our first game in Brooklyn, whichever round that is. That's the only scenario which leaves us in doubt IMO.
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Post by sawdoctors on Mar 6, 2013 22:03:31 GMT -5
Very simple formula to get to the dance fellas, wine one of the next two and we are in go 0-2 and we are a number 1 seed in the NIT.
Tonight was a painful reminder how much we will need Steve Zack next Friday and going forward this year.
Lets see what happens tomorrow in the Umass vs Butler game and Sunday when Temple plays VCU, B/C we get smoked in Screwie St Louie on Saturday.
I hope we get the three seed...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 22:06:38 GMT -5
Magic number is really down to 1 now. 1 more win wherever we can get it. You don't want your last two games both to be losses, it would give away our lock position and as many as 10 RPI spots. We don't have any junk left on our schedule, but if an 11 or 12 seed wins on Thursday it could also hurt our RPI. As long as favorites (including La Salle) win in Brooklyn we are dancing.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 6, 2013 22:40:47 GMT -5
I think we've played our way in- 8 true road wins is way more than every other bubble team- 6 or 7 top 100 wins depending on where Dayton is right now, 3 Top 50 wins (Butler, @vcu and Nova)
I think the 8 and maybe 9 true road wins will carry some weight.
Not knocking Nova's big wins but they haven't beaten anyone on the road except UConn and still have several AWFUL losses, not just bad losses. We have 1 bad loss
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Post by sawdoctors on Mar 6, 2013 22:45:33 GMT -5
Watching the stl x game....we can beat stl....
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Post by mikesmd77 on Mar 6, 2013 22:46:24 GMT -5
I think we've played our way in- 8 true road wins is way more than every other bubble team- 6 or 7 top 100 wins depending on where Dayton is right now, 3 Top 50 wins (Butler, @vcu and Nova) I think the 8 and maybe 9 true road wins will carry some weight. Not knocking Nova's big wins but they haven't beaten anyone on the road except UConn and still have several AWFUL losses, not just bad losses. We have 1 bad loss I completely agree. I think we're both in, but when it comes to seeding I hope they keep in mind we were much better on the road, AND we beat them head to head.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 6, 2013 23:12:50 GMT -5
I also think we are showing our true La Salle colors and assuming we are going to get screwed because we are La Salle.
If it was "same old La Salle" we would've lost tonight, instead we saw a 20 point lead with 6 minutes or so to play.
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Post by ltrain38 on Mar 6, 2013 23:15:11 GMT -5
I don't think it's unfair to worry about this. I don't believe we're "the same old La Salle," but I think a lot of the national basketball media do. Andy Katz called us a potential "bid stealer" today. It's not stealing a bid when you've been this consistently good all year. But we need to do a little more to get that recognition.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 6, 2013 23:18:57 GMT -5
My point was- Villanova won an it was like oh $hit now we are out.
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 6, 2013 23:25:28 GMT -5
Nova In with one win in the big east tourny. if we win sat we are 100% in. 2 losses in a row for us and who knows.
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Post by lamontcarter on Mar 7, 2013 1:02:04 GMT -5
Lunardi moved us down to the last 4 in category tonight despite the win.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 7, 2013 7:33:45 GMT -5
So I guess if we lose Saturday, he'll have us totally out. Probably just clearing the way to put St. Joe's in after they can get that elusive 9th A-10 win.
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Post by vasalos on Mar 7, 2013 7:36:49 GMT -5
A lot of brackets still have us in. But bracketologists don't know where to place us. some have us as a play in team and some have us as a 11 seed
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Post by scarletexplorer on Mar 7, 2013 7:53:13 GMT -5
I'm very nervous as to who we draw in the A-10 Tourney. If we have to play STL to finish the season and then Butler, it's going to be an uphill climb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 7:56:21 GMT -5
Sagarin has us as 6.5 dogs Saturday with a 26% chance of winning OUTRIGHT
RPI prediction 41 (max 53)
55 wouldn't cut it. Work left to do to keep it on the level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 8:09:04 GMT -5
Sagarin currently has us at 11% odds to run the table in Brooklyn. That seems about right, 67% chance to win Friday, 50% chance to win a Saturday game, and 33% chance to win a Sunday game, if we make it that far, regardless of opponent.
0.67 x 0.50 x 0.33 = 0.11
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Post by phillysports07 on Mar 7, 2013 8:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Mar 7, 2013 8:27:11 GMT -5
Well done Gonzo, well done.
These are strange times indeed, positive press for the hoops program and all.
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Post by lwc4591 on Mar 7, 2013 8:31:49 GMT -5
I thought we would be treated like Nova in that if we lost our last two games against highly rated teams like St. Louis and say Butler we would still be in with a 21-9 record. Oh wait Nova lost two in a row one to Pitt and one to a horrible S. Hall team and it didn't seem to do much harm. If you guys think we will be treated fairly I think you are in for a great disappointment. It would be nice if the teams around the country were treated square but with TV money involved it ain't happening. Nova beat three teams in top five but the only problem is all three of those teams have 4 to 7 losses.
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Post by coachd on Mar 7, 2013 9:22:17 GMT -5
Sagarin currently has us at 11% odds to run the table in Brooklyn. That seems about right, 67% chance to win Friday, 50% chance to win a Saturday game, and 33% chance to win a Sunday game, if we make it that far, regardless of opponent. 0.67 x 0.50 x 0.33 = 0.11 "Never tell me the odds!" www.hark.com/clips/rtpbdqkswy-never-tell-me-the-odds
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Mar 7, 2013 9:40:31 GMT -5
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