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Post by explorer88 on Feb 21, 2013 21:22:57 GMT -5
We should go 3-1 to close the season out. This team cannot beat St. Louis. No way in hell.
21-8 going into A-10 tourney. We probably go 1-1 in tourney. We could lose our first game but just as easily win 2 so I will say we go 1-1.
Is 22-9 good enough? I am not sure but I can tell you the 2-3 day wait for selection Sunday will excruciating.
We really need. This one tonight.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 21:24:22 GMT -5
Yeah, not that all the Bracketology stuff matters, but this game puts us out on most of them, and will until the SLU game. Ok, now THAT is an over reaction, you don't go from a10 seed to out with a rod loss at a top 50 opponent. Need to win the next 3 and all is well. Maybe get 1-1 in Brooklyn to solidify Exactly... We are not going off brackets.. We were about the 10th team in.. Playing a top 50 team on the road.. We aren't leaving a bracket.. Now if we lose to URI, DUQ or GW then we should... The bubble teams behind us have been losing that many games against 100+ and 200+ RPI teams...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 21:26:14 GMT -5
Duren needs to be exempted from the foul trouble benchings. He is a good enough player that you need him on the court when you are being shut out for 8 min That stretch killed our confidence and momentum. I dislike how Duren "fouled out" of the first half to save him for an end game that we were never part of.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 21, 2013 21:26:43 GMT -5
We're not out of the brackets, but 1. We lost an opportunity to climb over the bubble and squarely in and 2. We got crushed on national tv at a time when we needed to cash in on growing press.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 21:28:27 GMT -5
We should go 3-1 to close the season out. This team cannot beat St. Louis. No way in hell. 21-8 going into A-10 tourney. We probably go 1-1 in tourney. We could lose our first game but just as easily win 2 so I will say we go 1-1. Is 22-9 good enough? I am not sure but I can tell you the 2-3 day wait for selection Sunday will excruciating. We really need. This one tonight. Very true.. we will need some of the bubble teams to lose.. If we go this way? We should still be favorites for a bye if we go 3-1 over the next 4 games.. So we should get a top 100 RPI game in the quarterfinals.. and that should be our "play in" game... Semifinals should bring a top 50 RPI team, this the A-10 has 5 of them right now.. I can't imagine a loss against a top 50.. would be a bad loss... We need the teams behind us to lose BIG TIME
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 21:30:09 GMT -5
Duren needs to be exempted from the foul trouble benchings. He is a good enough player that you need him on the court when you are being shut out for 8 min That stretch killed our confidence and momentum. I dislike how Duren "fouled out" of the first half to save him for an end game that we were never part of. Hykos, absolutely agree.... Even still Galloway took his man off the dribble at will and couldn't make a layup... Garland also to a certain extent... Just really bad finishing... Dunphy was right.. we got to the basket at will and just missed easy shots... A NCAA tournament team does not do that
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Post by lsufan24 on Feb 21, 2013 21:30:29 GMT -5
We should go 3-1 to close the season out. This team cannot beat St. Louis. No way in hell. I love that people on this board went from beating anyone after the Butler/VCU victories back to the pessimistic ways of La Salle fans...yay! This was a wake up call to this team for these last four games. None are easy, but they can win them all. Lets go.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 21, 2013 21:33:17 GMT -5
This was exactly like both the Charlotte and Xavier games. Our guard play is critical to our success and when it goes bad, it goes BAD.
Sooooo many missed lay ups early, I think garland may have missed 4 straight at one point. Then the poor shooting turns into easy offense for the other team.
I don't want to pick on him because he does so much to make this team better, but Galloway was having an awful shooting night and took a LOT of shots. Duren, mills and Garland all shot the ball really well (including Garlands missed bunnies)
They didn't share the ball well at all tonight, 8 assists on 27 buckets is not good- it was a lot of dribbling and all 1-on-1 and once they got down big it just made it worse
I don't expect them to make it a habit and I'm sure they will learn from this and get back to the style we saw the 4 games before this.
This wasn't a must win, the next 3 absolutely are must win games
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 21:35:27 GMT -5
G has won two straight in STL. Hoping it's just another odd year... with everything on the line and stlexplorer and George in the front row we can't lose.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 21, 2013 21:35:48 GMT -5
We should go 3-1 to close the season out. This team cannot beat St. Louis. No way in hell. I love that people on this board went from beating anyone after the Butler/VCU victories back to the pessimistic ways of La Salle fans...yay! This was a wake up call to this team for these last four games. None are easy, but they can win them all. Lets go. I don't think so. I never had this team beating everyone and I certainly never thought we would beat St. Louis on the road. Sorry but some of us are realists who live and die with each game. Not everyone can be apologists.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 21, 2013 21:43:10 GMT -5
We have beaten St. Louis out there twice in a row, but look at the circumstances. The first time, we beat a young team with our team full of upperclassmen, before the Billikens learned to win with that group. The second time was the Kwamain Mitchell/Willie Reed suspension year that derailed that team. This year, St. Louis has crushed three very good teams at home. I'd give us a shot in Philly, not out there.
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 21, 2013 21:49:46 GMT -5
Just got home. That stink.
We got killed because we don't have a swingman. If a team looks to crash the boards against us, chances are they'll get that battle. The Owls did.
We also missed a ton of good drives and open jumpers early. Tough to set up your defense when that's happening.
This was the worst loss they've had in two years. To a Temple team fighting tooth and nail. Losing to Temple stinks but I'd rather lose to the Owls than to the Dukes.
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Post by cpico on Feb 21, 2013 22:00:29 GMT -5
The next 3 games are must wins. We can not drop any of the next three if we want a shot come selection Sunday. We have little, to no, shot of beating St. Louis at St. Louis. They're too good. I'd love to see the guys prove me wrong, but that's going to be a loss.
So if we go 3-1 to close out the regular season, then we need at least 1 win in the A -10 tournament. 2 wins in the A-10 Tourney should definitely get us in the NCAA. A win tonight would have made things a lot easier.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 22:19:16 GMT -5
I love that people on this board went from beating anyone after the Butler/VCU victories back to the pessimistic ways of La Salle fans...yay! This was a wake up call to this team for these last four games. None are easy, but they can win them all. Lets go. I don't think so. I never had this team beating everyone and I certainly never thought we would beat St. Louis on the road. Sorry but some of us are realists who live and die with each game. Not everyone can be apologists. Bingo
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Post by las71 on Feb 21, 2013 22:21:19 GMT -5
Also just got home from game. Temple simply had too much size.
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Post by explorer128 on Feb 21, 2013 22:23:46 GMT -5
We lost this game because 1) Temple played some of the best defense they have all season in the 1st half, which really disrupted our offensive flow. They were incredibly prepared. The screen and roll was completely ineffective against them. They knew what we were going to do before we even knew. 2) Our perimeter shooting was poor. The 3s were not falling. We should have started driving to the basket more immediately in the first half, instead of waiting until the second half. 3) Tyreek's foul trouble really put us in a bind. I don't think we know how to play well without him for an extended period of time. Khalif Wyatt is extremely frustrating to guard. I have never seen someone who so easily bait defenders into fouling him. Tyreek was the wrong player to guard him tonight.
While this game will not knock us out of projected tourney brackets at this point, it puts in a tenuous position in the race for a bye in the A10 tournament. If we win the next three and lose to St. Louis, and Temple manages to win out, then we would be tied with Temple. Temple wins the tiebreaker against us. We could end up a 5 seed and Temple could end up a 4 seed, setting us up for a rematch on day 2 of the conference tourney, assuming we win the first day. I would like to say we control our own destiny, but we only control it by winning the next 4 games.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 22:25:41 GMT -5
Just got home. That stink. We got killed because we don't have a swingman. If a team looks to crash the boards against us, chances are they'll get that battle. The Owls did. We also missed a ton of good drives and open jumpers early. Tough to set up your defense when that's happening. This was the worst loss they've had in two years. To a Temple team fighting tooth and nail. Losing to Temple stinks but I'd rather lose to the Owls than to the Dukes. Sadly if Artis matched this game and saw that lacking feature... He would know there are a lot minutes for a player with that athletic ability...
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 22:27:26 GMT -5
We lost this game because 1) Temple played some of the best defense they have all season in the 1st half, which really disrupted our offensive flow. They were incredibly prepared. The screen and roll was completely ineffective against them. They knew what we were going to do before we even knew. 2) Our perimeter shooting was poor. The 3s were not falling. We should have started driving to the basket more immediately in the first half, instead of waiting until the second half. 3) Tyreek's foul trouble really put us in a bind. I don't think we know how to play well without him for an extended period of time. Khalif Wyatt is extremely frustrating to guard. I have never seen someone who so easily bait defenders into fouling him. Tyreek was the wrong player to guard him tonight. While this game will not knock us out of projected tourney brackets at this point, it puts in a tenuous position in the race for a bye in the A10 tournament. If we win the next three and lose to St. Louis, and Temple manages to win out, then we would be tied with Temple. Temple wins the tiebreaker against us. We could end up a 5 seed and Temple could end up a 4 seed, setting us up for a rematch on day 2 of the conference tourney, assuming we win the first day. I would like to say we control our own destiny, but we only control it by winning the next 4 games. Disagree if we finish 3-1 we will absolutely get a bye.. Because Butler and VCU play STL and each other... One of those teams will not get a bye.. If we go 3-1, we will get a bye
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Post by explorerman on Feb 21, 2013 22:30:12 GMT -5
It should be mentioned even without Duren we got to the rim at will... Either Garland or Galloway got to the rim beating their man off the dribble.. They just didn't finish...
I will contend having Brown in the game in lieu of Wright cost the team 8 points.. Missed layups and frankly pathetic boxing out ability mainly due to size problems that Wright wouldn't have handicapped any comeback.. I would love for a journalist to ask G his logic on that...
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Post by explorer128 on Feb 21, 2013 22:38:01 GMT -5
We lost this game because 1) Temple played some of the best defense they have all season in the 1st half, which really disrupted our offensive flow. They were incredibly prepared. The screen and roll was completely ineffective against them. They knew what we were going to do before we even knew. 2) Our perimeter shooting was poor. The 3s were not falling. We should have started driving to the basket more immediately in the first half, instead of waiting until the second half. 3) Tyreek's foul trouble really put us in a bind. I don't think we know how to play well without him for an extended period of time. Khalif Wyatt is extremely frustrating to guard. I have never seen someone who so easily bait defenders into fouling him. Tyreek was the wrong player to guard him tonight. While this game will not knock us out of projected tourney brackets at this point, it puts in a tenuous position in the race for a bye in the A10 tournament. If we win the next three and lose to St. Louis, and Temple manages to win out, then we would be tied with Temple. Temple wins the tiebreaker against us. We could end up a 5 seed and Temple could end up a 4 seed, setting us up for a rematch on day 2 of the conference tourney, assuming we win the first day. I would like to say we control our own destiny, but we only control it by winning the next 4 games. Disagree if we finish 3-1 we will absolutely get a bye.. Because Butler and VCU play STL and each other... One of those teams will not get a bye.. If we go 3-1, we will get a bye You are right. I forgot about all of those head to head matchups remaining between Buter, VCU, and STL. Temple plays VCU the last game of the regular season, too. So it comes down to the next three games. If we stumble in one of those three, we might play our way out of a bye, and maybe the NCAA tournament.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 21, 2013 23:09:38 GMT -5
Losses in any of the next three absolutely destroys the NCAA
11-5 gets us a bye, mathematically I think it's impossible that it wouldn't just because of our toe break ownership over Butler and VCU
No excuse losing any of the next 3 games
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 21, 2013 23:17:48 GMT -5
When our guys don't hot shots early it seems to steamroll and get out of hand quickly -
CBS put up a stat that was awfully telling about the huge gap in stats with our wins an losses
When our guys aren't making shots, the defense can't get set and they allow easy transition buckets.
Bottom line is there were at LEAST 16 points left on the Rim with missed layups - make those and it's a totally different game. That 18-1 stretch was te difference and could have easily been avoided
Damn it
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 21, 2013 23:19:24 GMT -5
Also- Lunardi still has us solid in, not Last 4 in as of tonight according to the ESPN studio guy during the Cal game.
Just win the next 3 and all will be well
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 23:28:34 GMT -5
Also- Lunardi still has us solid in, not Last 4 in as of tonight according to the ESPN studio guy during the Cal game. Just win the next 3 and all will be well Lunardi assumes we win 4 more games first. Doesn't really matter which 4 really. Could help ourselves and Get them out of the way before Brooklyn.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 21, 2013 23:36:40 GMT -5
The Philahoops guy says 21 wins gets us in.
Just win as many as possible. I want to win a game in Brooklyn not for NCAA purposes but because its important to win at least a game in your tourney every year. There are only going to be 8 teams that win a game in that tournament it's important to consistently be one of them.
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 22, 2013 0:03:20 GMT -5
I'd rather play SLU next rather than a team everyone assumes we'll beat.
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Post by lasallerules1978 on Feb 22, 2013 0:16:46 GMT -5
Do we need to beat SLU now? Is that even possible anyway? No shot. Disagree we have a shot. It's a bad loss. This was a big 5 battle. Need to pick up the pieces and move forward. We aren't a great team, but we are tough and on any given night we can beat st Louis.
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Post by lasallerules1978 on Feb 22, 2013 0:25:54 GMT -5
My notes from tonight.
This was garland's coming out party.
We can't press
Why did we have no big guys on the court, four guards and a big could of worked.
I am glad we didn't quit in the 2 nd half
We were out coached
Congrats to temple they played well
Take care of business and this loss just becomes a learning experience
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Post by lasallescreamer on Feb 22, 2013 1:09:33 GMT -5
We lost for 2 reasons-mental block w TU-they r good but we make them look better and it just wasnt our nite.BTW- why wasnt band there Fightg song would have helped. Too, why wasnt our Cheerleading squad aloed to cheer during alternating time outs. Their squad should not be allowed on floor next year at Gola.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 22, 2013 6:34:17 GMT -5
Disagree we have a shot. It's a bad loss. This was a big 5 battle. Need to pick up the pieces and move forward. We aren't a great team, but we are tough and on any given night we can beat st Louis. I will say it again....no shot.
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