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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Nov 6, 2023 20:47:07 GMT -5
The ladies pick up a 5-point win at Copppin State to start the season. Nine players played between 14 and 29 minutes. Machtoon with 17 and Melious with 16 to lead the way.
Now for the bad. 32 turnovers. Need to watch the replay to see what happened there, but that is a LOT
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Post by fvp47 on Nov 6, 2023 21:50:12 GMT -5
I watched the game. He played everyone so at times there was a lot of inexperience on the floor at the same time. Very sloppy
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 7, 2023 14:06:02 GMT -5
I watched some of it. Up tempo and fast paced on La Salle's end, which was fun to watch. Unfortunately, the up tempo play resulted in alot of TO's...20 more than Coppin. But good FG% and 3FG% by the Explorers, and good play by the 2 Freshman. Looking forward to watching this team compete as the season progresses.
Amazing to me how Mountain gets 12 players at least some floor time. Always substituting.
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Post by hykos1045 on Nov 8, 2023 4:03:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates! A win without the Jacobs trio carrying the water, against a team we used to lose to at home, is a win.
No worries about the 32 turnovers yet. I agree it's freshman jitters. Better to work that out at Coppin instead of... at George Mason etc. I'm glad he pushes the tempo. Once they can settle into some defined roles and reduce the unforced errors, I am confident that tempo should blow most A10 teams out of the water.
(This team's last game out was a pretty big upset loss to GMU in Wilmington and since the last two seasons have ended the same way, I'm still not over it...)
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 16, 2023 11:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 16, 2023 12:32:44 GMT -5
Is it time to start thinking if the coach should be retained? Or too soon? This is his 5th year. His 1st season is a pass but after this year he will have had a losing record over those 4 years. Seems like a good guy but the results are not there.
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Post by hykos1045 on Nov 16, 2023 13:03:33 GMT -5
Is it time to start thinking if the coach should be retained? Or too soon? This is his 5th year. His 1st season is a pass but after this year he will have had a losing record over those 4 years. Seems like a good guy but the results are not there. In the year one of a rebuild, I did expect to get swept by the City6 this year as growing pains continue so let's stick a pin in this discussion until the end of the season? We even having this conversation in November in Year 1 of a rebuild seems WAY premature. I would think that his status more depends on how his relationship is with the newer Prez and brand new AD, as well as whether he can get us over the hump in the A10 Tourney where his squads has squandered the better seed for a few years in a row. You're consistent in your standards and metrics, so I know I am never going to change your mind. But since you asked, no! I just think it's a totally unfair assessment to use his career record to call his overall performance a "losing record." How is that your narrative, when he swept St Joe's for the first time in program history? When they last season finished 8-7 in the A10, but merely 1.5 games away from the 3 seed and a double bye? He still seems to me to have a potential to hang around a bit if he can figure out how to get the A10 Playoffs monkey off his back. They did finish above .500 for the second straight year, and I don't even know when was the last time this program did even THAT. I think his job his safe for this year while they find out whether the new crop of players performs up to their recruit ratings, which I still have optimism about. But to your point, I would maybe be reluctant to extend him until seeing how the freshmen will measure up against Dayton, St Joe's, and the other A10 opponents, as well as whether they stick around for Year 2 or hit the portal as soon as they lose to Duquesne or Dayton in March...
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 16, 2023 13:46:44 GMT -5
Is it time to start thinking if the coach should be retained? Or too soon? This is his 5th year. His 1st season is a pass but after this year he will have had a losing record over those 4 years. Seems like a good guy but the results are not there. In the year one of a rebuild, I did expect to get swept by the City6 this year as growing pains continue so let's stick a pin in this discussion until the end of the season? We even having this conversation in November in Year 1 of a rebuild seems WAY premature. I would think that his status more depends on how his relationship is with the newer Prez and brand new AD, as well as whether he can get us over the hump in the A10 Tourney where his squads has squandered the better seed for a few years in a row. You're consistent in your standards and metrics, so I know I am never going to change your mind. But since you asked, no! I just think it's a totally unfair assessment to use his career record to call his overall performance a "losing record." How is that your narrative, when he swept St Joe's for the first time in program history? When they last season finished 8-7 in the A10, but merely 1.5 games away from the 3 seed and a double bye? He still seems to me to have a potential to hang around a bit if he can figure out how to get the A10 Playoffs monkey off his back. They did finish above .500 for the second straight year, and I don't even know when was the last time this program did even THAT. I think his job his safe for this year while they find out whether the new crop of players performs up to their recruit ratings, which I still have optimism about. But to your point, I would maybe be reluctant to extend him until seeing how the freshmen will measure up against Dayton, St Joe's, and the other A10 opponents, as well as whether they stick around for Year 2 or hit the portal as soon as they lose to Duquesne or Dayton in March... Fair points Hykos in what will/could happen. As far as having a losing record as my narrative.......for me that is all that matters. 1 year or 2 years I don't form that narrative because I understand a new coach needs to get his own players, create his culture etc.... After 5 years I have a pretty good idea how things are and where they are heading. Very rarely does a coach that struggles for 5 years all of a sudden turns it around.
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Post by gymrat67 on Dec 6, 2023 10:30:48 GMT -5
The ( 3 - 5 ) Lady Explorers have lost their last 3 games : 71 - 79 Loss vs Penn 73 - 94 Loss vs. Virginia ( 21 point deficit ) 67 - 98 Loss vs. Rutgers ( 31 point deficit ) Next up is ( 7 - 1 ) Lehigh tomorrow night in Bethlehem, PA.
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Post by hykos1045 on Dec 7, 2023 4:51:59 GMT -5
In the year one of a rebuild, I did expect to get swept by the City6 this year as growing pains continue so let's stick a pin in this discussion until the end of the season? We even having this conversation in November in Year 1 of a rebuild seems WAY premature. I would think that his status more depends on how his relationship is with the newer Prez and brand new AD, as well as whether he can get us over the hump in the A10 Tourney where his squads has squandered the better seed for a few years in a row. You're consistent in your standards and metrics, so I know I am never going to change your mind. But since you asked, no! I just think it's a totally unfair assessment to use his career record to call his overall performance a "losing record." How is that your narrative, when he swept St Joe's for the first time in program history? When they last season finished 8-7 in the A10, but merely 1.5 games away from the 3 seed and a double bye? He still seems to me to have a potential to hang around a bit if he can figure out how to get the A10 Playoffs monkey off his back. They did finish above .500 for the second straight year, and I don't even know when was the last time this program did even THAT. I think his job his safe for this year while they find out whether the new crop of players performs up to their recruit ratings, which I still have optimism about. But to your point, I would maybe be reluctant to extend him until seeing how the freshmen will measure up against Dayton, St Joe's, and the other A10 opponents, as well as whether they stick around for Year 2 or hit the portal as soon as they lose to Duquesne or Dayton in March... Fair points Hykos in what will/could happen. As far as having a losing record as my narrative.......for me that is all that matters. 1 year or 2 years I don't form that narrative because I understand a new coach needs to get his own players, create his culture etc.... After 5 years I have a pretty good idea how things are and where they are heading. Very rarely does a coach that struggles for 5 years all of a sudden turns it around. We're in plenty good company. The A10 is not a strong WBB league, unfortunately. I look around and every year there are usually 5 haves and 10 have nots. Dayton, UMass and even VCU were once very strong haves that fell off significantly due to coaching departures and player turnover in the last two years. Thus, the only competitive teams left at the top right now might be Rhode Island, St Joe's, Fordham, and perhaps one other team (Richmond? SLU?). Because Mountain has consistently kept us in the middle of the A10, and gotten us to a level where we play competitively with St Joe's and Fordham who were leaps and bounds ahead of us for the past two decades if not more, I think he ought to be retained and perhaps even extended, barring any unforeseen circumstances. Despite an overall lackluster W/L record, he has proven to be a highly capable recruiter who utilizes the transfer portal as well if not better than his A10 colleagues. With the new facility coming up next year, he will have an increased ability to recruit the local kids, I would imagine. I don't view his transfer outs as negative overall because every program experiences that now, and he restocks the cupboard every time. We were never really decimated by the turnover, even though it seemed like at a few times that we should be, such as losing the three Jacobs. The only thing he needs to continue to do is work to address the areas of the team that need improvement. I always say have this conversation in March, not November. This is a rebuild but as much as there have been noticeable growing pains, we've also seen glimmers of hope like the opening day win on the road. I think if we're still having this conversation a year from now, it only means that he's been a victim of his own success. And he's not afraid to schedule games like Kentucky and Virginia which are good experience for the squad even though we have insufficient talent to keep those games close. Notice that we're playing Lehigh today instead of like a Fairleigh Dickinson or NJIT? He's obviously about more than just padding the stat sheet, but building a winning culture. I would want him to stay as long as that takes.
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Post by fvp47 on Dec 7, 2023 19:47:37 GMT -5
Ladiirs are down 27 at the half to Lehigh. No offense, no defense
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Post by gymrat67 on Dec 7, 2023 20:59:11 GMT -5
The Lady Explorers lost by 46 points to Lehigh 106 - 60, which is the most points the Mountain Hawks have ever scored in a game. The previous record was set 46 years ago against Division III Albright College when Lehigh defeated them 103 - 34 on February 3, 1977. Lehigh women's basketball score 106 points in record - breaking home win over La Salle.thebrownandwhite.com/2023/12/07/lehigh-womens-basketball-beats-la-salle/
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Post by fvp47 on Dec 7, 2023 21:09:01 GMT -5
Lehigh was 17-41 from three and 29-31 free throws.
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Post by roaddog77 on Dec 8, 2023 18:11:09 GMT -5
The Lady Explorers lost by 46 points to Lehigh 106 - 60, which is the most points the Mountain Hawks have ever scored in a game. The previous record was set 46 years ago against Division III Albright College when Lehigh defeated them 103 - 34 on February 3, 1977. Lehigh women's basketball score 106 points in record - breaking home win over La Salle.thebrownandwhite.com/2023/12/07/lehigh-womens-basketball-beats-la-salle/ Did Oregon five years ago, when they had All-American Sabrina Ionescu in Coach Mount first year scores over 100 points against us.
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Post by hykos1045 on Dec 10, 2023 23:49:18 GMT -5
Will never know, because that was Oregon State.
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Post by hykos1045 on Dec 11, 2023 0:17:58 GMT -5
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Post by roaddog77 on Dec 11, 2023 8:51:34 GMT -5
Will never know, because that was Oregon State. Thank you for correcting me.
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Post by hykos1045 on Dec 13, 2023 6:19:01 GMT -5
But your recall is correct on the last time someone hung 100 on us.
I just wish you were right about Sabrina playing against our favorite team. I would have traveled far to see it. You had me wondering if I was missing out on a big story.
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Post by fvp47 on Dec 17, 2023 15:32:07 GMT -5
The ladies just lost to Temple by 24. They had 31 turnovers, 17 in the first half. This season is a train wreck.
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Post by roaddog77 on Dec 18, 2023 16:13:46 GMT -5
This must be the worst 4 games of basketball for us. We giving up 95 points per game in the past 4 game. We also averaging 19 turnovers per game. That not winning basketball for us at 20th & Olney. I understand we lost players from last year team from graduating or the transfer portal, but that no excuse for us in this bad brand of basketball. Coach Mount need to change our way of play before A10 conference play. If not, it going to be a long season for us.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 30, 2023 20:27:11 GMT -5
Women get doubled up by Mason 74-37. Program is in shambles.
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Post by gymrat67 on Dec 31, 2023 12:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jan 3, 2024 12:32:28 GMT -5
The floundering ( 3-10, 0-2 ) Lady Explorers have now lost their last 8 games in a row ( including their first two A-10 Conference games ) and 9 of their last 10 games. IBX Press Conference ( 1/2/2024 ) : La Salle WBB'S 69 - 50 loss to ( 12-1, 2-0 ) Davidson
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jan 6, 2024 21:30:46 GMT -5
The women snapped their losing streak with an 11-point win over Fordham. They cut the rotation to 7 players and looks like they won the game at the line. Explorers were 15-21 while Fordham was just 4-9.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 8, 2024 12:13:20 GMT -5
Fordham was one of the three teams that in my book improved the most over the time since I was a student, the other two being UMass and Rhode Island. Unfortunately for them, these things can be cyclical. Right now the creme de la creme in the A10 is Rhody (still!) and St Joe's. Both are EXTREMELY well coached.
I'm happy that our squad got a taste of winning, but it's still going to be a miserable stretch coming up. Mountain should not get jettisoned after this season because of the turnover being largely out of his direct control, and his replacements are very talented, despite being inexperienced. I know that the freshmen are going to be well experienced by March due to the number of minutes they got throughout the season. Their development should be a selling point for Mountain's next round of recruits. He also can market the newest facility in the A10, which should probably win us some additional consideration from local standout players who may have passed on us due to facility constraints in bygone eras.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 11, 2024 21:22:08 GMT -5
Hopefully this team is really continuing to click as January rolls into february! I am so happy to see the women get two victories in a row. They obviously never gave up on themselves and they've been working really hard.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jan 13, 2024 18:14:14 GMT -5
Make it 3 in a row for the women.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 14, 2024 18:27:04 GMT -5
Nicole Melious is a bucket. I can't wait to see what she can do 1 or 2 years from now. Her game reminds me of the great Jill Marano.
Our Explorers outscored uMass 28-17 in the 4th quarter to take over after a 5 pt deficit. That is a 112 points per game pace! Of course, they'll still need to work on consistency. but I really love to see that under Mountain, they continue to show how to create shots and be tenacious on defense in the second half when games are on the line. UMass didn't have an answer for the perimeter shot! What a way to start the new calendar year, 3-1!
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Post by roaddog77 on Jan 15, 2024 17:41:35 GMT -5
Well our 3 game winning streak is over today losing 64-39 against St. Joe’s.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jan 26, 2024 8:34:17 GMT -5
Lady Explorers ( 6 - 13, 3 - 5 ) succumb by 28 points to Rhode Island ** ( 13 - 8, 5 - 3 ) 75 - 47.
Rhody ** La Salle
1. rebounds 51 21
2. points in the paint 40 12
3. bench points 34 10
4. fast break points 19 1
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** A - 10 Conf. WBB 6th place in current standings.
( January 24. 2024 ) IBX Press Conference : La Salle WBB vs. Rhode Island
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