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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 18, 2017 17:18:21 GMT -5
Airplane lands, wheels hit the tarmack. Checks score immediately. Realizes a 4 hour flight sitting next to a stone-cold, babbling drunk wasn't so bad. And you missed the beautiful sunshine and comfortable 70 degree weather here in the Jacksonville area today.
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Post by festushagan on Nov 18, 2017 17:45:16 GMT -5
Season still very early, but do agree that point guards need to hit threes, at least on occasion! Would be very happy should team win tomorrow, we'll see!
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Post by jellybean on Nov 18, 2017 17:48:09 GMT -5
You can't get away with it in the A10 either. We have been mediocre at best the three years he has been the point guard. On a list of problems, Amar Stukes doesn’t crack the top 5 though. Defending the 3 is a the top of the list. Not one player. Can't blame Price for that this year. Stop the dribbling and start passing/moving.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 18, 2017 18:53:46 GMT -5
On a list of problems, Amar Stukes doesn’t crack the top 5 though. Defending the 3 is a the top of the list. Not one player. Can't blame Price for that this year. Stop the dribbling and start passing/moving. The offense is the offense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:56:55 GMT -5
Just got back from the game. They came within 7 in the 2nd half, then went downhill. Northwestern was big at all positions, and 10 deep. They all could shoot. Their coaching was A++++++++. NW players looked like they had a plan. On the plus side for us, the prez and her family were there....kudos for that woman. She's a great ambassador for the school. +G maintained his cool again. On the negative side, here are a few big ones:
* Northwestern warmed up with enthusiasm. As their players were introduced, they ran over to the scorers table and fist bumped the refs (who appreciated it) to build some rapport. Our team? For warm ups, they walked out. For both warm ups, 4+ of our players HAD THEIR HOODIES UP!!! I repeat, for both warm ups WE HAD PLAYERS WITH THEIR SWEATSHIRT HOODS UP!!!! They looked bored and unenthused. No bench chatter during the game. This team desperately needs an alpha cheerleader ala Ramon Galloway.
* Fundamentals: Not many. Rarely did we contest outside shots. I like Stukes a lot, but how many times did the NW guard (McIntosh?)bring the ball up,pull up in front of Stukes and drain a shot. Stukes never raised a hand to contest the shot. I believe McIntosh had 24+ pts and scored at will.
*Tony is a nice kid, but was lost several times out there on defense. Several times G was yelling at him to get in the right position.
* Our big's low post game is poor. Fortunately, we've recruiting some size next year. Tony is thin, and got pushed around tonight. They simply backed into him and scored at will.
* NW ran the same offense that South Alabama did. Lots of rotation outside the 3 pt. line with picks for jumpers or pick and rolls. Our dribble drive is not working. There are few if any picks that put a player in scoring position. Scoring comes down to school yard one on one.
Oh well. I'm still a LaSalle fan despite it all.
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Post by ltrain38 on Nov 18, 2017 18:57:11 GMT -5
Just got back from Mohegan. This was the first game I saw this year - listened to the first two and had to teach during the third. The second half showed me that the offense is better than I worried it might be, but we definitely could use another shooter. Foul trouble aside (you'll have this with freshman centers), I think Miles will be a good player for us. As far as the defense goes, our guys kept going under the high screens and giving up wide open threes. You won't get away with that against a team like Northwestern. I think they were 12/20 or 13/21 or something from three and it felt worse in the building. We played pretty well when their bigs were out in foul trouble. I thought Tony and Miles did a pretty solid job defensively, but gave up a few because we didn't collapse much on the bigs in order to prevent kickouts and more threes. Overall, a pretty rough game, made worse by the fact that I feel like I've seen it play out like this a lot over the last 13 years - the big halftime deficit, big comeback that falls short, etc. But as I said, it wasn't all bad. Hopefully we get out of CT with a win tomorrow. Didn't get the impression that BC will burn us for threes the way Northwestern did.
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Post by walkon on Nov 18, 2017 20:34:13 GMT -5
Great effort. Proud
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Post by vital on Nov 18, 2017 21:01:58 GMT -5
Who is the player development coach for the team???...Brady got Maryland offense looking great...G staff is all of his ex players except maybe 1 coach...We are worried about guys on the bench not cheering??? what worries me is i don't see any coaches talkin to the players about their mistakes or the miss opportunity...G needs a coach on the bench to challenge him and the players...as i said of last year this team plays not to make mistakes and are not playin freely...also no one on staff is tellin the gaurds to fight over the screens unless its by design to go under???
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Post by durenduren on Nov 18, 2017 21:27:35 GMT -5
Airplane lands, wheels hit the tarmack. Checks score immediately. Realizes a 4 hour flight sitting next to a stone-cold, babbling drunk wasn't so bad. And you missed the beautiful sunshine and comfortable 70 degree weather here in the Jacksonville area today. Yeah, seriously. Weather was shit the entire time, and the one day it's nice, I'm flying. Onions. Side note - what a strange city.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 18, 2017 21:29:53 GMT -5
Who is the player development coach for the team???...Brady got Maryland offense looking great...G staff is all of his ex players except maybe 1 coach...We are worried about guys on the bench not cheering??? what worries me is i don't see any coaches talkin to the players about their mistakes or the miss opportunity...G needs a coach on the bench to challenge him and the players...as i said of last year this team plays not to make mistakes and are not playin freely...also no one on staff is tellin the gaurds to fight over the screens unless its by design to go under??? IMO this is silly.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 18, 2017 21:41:06 GMT -5
For both warm ups, 4+ of our players HAD THEIR HOODIES UP!!! I repeat, for both warm ups WE HAD PLAYERS WITH THEIR SWEATSHIRT HOODS UP!!!!. Get out with this nonsense. (No need to edit Joe!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 7:57:29 GMT -5
Dear Mr. D. If you think what I saw during warm ups was nonsense, you don't know anything about sports pre-game psychology and effect it has on game outcomes.
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Post by 23won on Nov 19, 2017 8:19:11 GMT -5
Penn did the pregame ref fist bump with refs during intros
It must be a top 20 academic school thing
The new “fist bumps are for closers?”
Actually thought the refs called it fair
Beat BC - and don’t let them out-fist bump the refs!!
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Post by jellybean on Nov 19, 2017 8:50:33 GMT -5
Amar's inability to shoot was and is a major problem. I just don't see how we can win with him as the point guard getting 35+ minutes. Am I being too hard on him? Who are we giving minutes at PG? Johnnie Shuler? There are no other options. Stukes not a scoring point. That's not his job. He is a floor general. Will end up in top 12 all-time for assists and maybe steals. Has nearly a 3:1 assist: turnover ratio. Not his fault he doesn't have a third scoring option. Those are the cards he was dealt. Most probably know his younger brother was nearly killed this Summer in a playground shooting. I understand that another young person in his life was fatally shot recently. I guess he is this year's version of "we can't win with him this year getting x minutes".
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 19, 2017 8:58:04 GMT -5
Amar's inability to shoot was and is a major problem. I just don't see how we can win with him as the point guard getting 35+ minutes. Am I being too hard on him? Who are we giving minutes at PG? Johnnie Shuler? There are no other options. Stukes not a scoring point. That's not his job. He is a floor general. Will end up in top 12 all-time for assists and maybe steals. Has nearly a 3:1 assist: turnover ratio. Not his fault he doesn't have a third scoring option. Those are the cards he was dealt. Most probably know his younger brother was nearly killed this Summer in a playground shooting. I understand that another young person in his life was fatally shot recently. I guess he is this year's version of "we can't win with him this year getting x minutes". Not his job? His job is to hit open shots when he gets them. That is how teams win games. He gets a lot of them and misses most of them. I understand he does some things well but he hasn't won a lot as the point guard and we haven't won a lot as a team. Sorry but there is a correlation between the two.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 19, 2017 8:58:17 GMT -5
* NW ran the same offense that South Alabama did. Lots of rotation outside the 3 pt. line with picks for jumpers or pick and rolls. Our dribble drive is not working. There are few if any picks that put a player in scoring position. Scoring comes down to school yard one on one. This rings quite true to me regarding the oppositions O and our O. I've wondered whether our D deficiencies against folks who run this O maybe in part due to not practicing routinely against it. We face ourselves. A win today will right the ship.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 19, 2017 9:02:47 GMT -5
Dear Mr. D. If you think what I saw during warm ups was nonsense, you don't know anything about sports pre-game psychology and effect it has on game outcomes. Not to get into a battle but shed some light on this topic. Do you ever wonder why G is the only coach that basically runs a practice before the game? It turns out that you have to go back to the Aaric Murray days. Murray and Jerrell Williams were hoisting 3's in warm ups. Joking around with shots they will for the most part never take in a game. So to get them to focus G treated the pre-game warm ups like a practice.
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Post by las71 on Nov 19, 2017 9:13:38 GMT -5
As fans, it's easy to lay blame when we lose. It's Amar's fault, it's G's fault, our kids wore their hoodies up during warmups etc. I watched the game and it seemed to me that the better team won. Northwestern had more talent at 4 of the 5 starting positions and much better talent coming off the bench. It's difficult to overcome that talent differential. Our kids played hard when it would have been easier to just pack it in. I was proud of them.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 19, 2017 9:26:17 GMT -5
Dear Mr. D. If you think what I saw during warm ups was nonsense, you don't know anything about sports pre-game psychology and effect it has on game outcomes. Not to get into a battle but shed some light on this topic. Do you ever wonder why G is the only coach that basically runs a practice before the game? It turns out that you have to go back to the Aaric Murray days. Murray and Jerrell Williams were hoisting 3's in warm ups. Joking around with shots they will for the most part never take in a game. So to get them to focus G treated the pre-game warm ups like a practice. Those players are years removed though. If that’s still the case, perhaps you look at what you’re teaching.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 9:28:58 GMT -5
My big picture point is that they warmed up 'flat', they came out 'flat' and fell behind 24 points. NW was the better team talent wise, but I believe we could have beaten them.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 19, 2017 9:38:30 GMT -5
They didn’t come out flat though. They didn’t get in a hole right away, the big run from NW came at the end of the first half, not the start of the game.
And I think the reason guys may have been warming up with their hoods up is probably as simple as “A lot of guys in the NBA do it” and is not an indicator of anything at all.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 19, 2017 9:50:25 GMT -5
Who are we giving minutes at PG? Johnnie Shuler? There are no other options. Stukes not a scoring point. That's not his job. He is a floor general. Will end up in top 12 all-time for assists and maybe steals. Has nearly a 3:1 assist: turnover ratio. Not his fault he doesn't have a third scoring option. Those are the cards he was dealt. Most probably know his younger brother was nearly killed this Summer in a playground shooting. I understand that another young person in his life was fatally shot recently. I guess he is this year's version of "we can't win with him this year getting x minutes". Not his job? His job is to hit open shots when he gets them. That is how teams win games. He gets a lot of them and misses most of them. I understand he does some things well but he hasn't won a lot as the point guard and we haven't won a lot as a team. Sorry but there is a correlation between the two. So now he is the guy we will point fingers at. It all falls on him. Seriously. Last I looked there were four other guys on the floor. Never answered my question about who do you give some of his minutes too. Because there is no other option available. Some teams would kill for a 3:1 a/to point.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 19, 2017 9:52:32 GMT -5
Not to get into a battle but shed some light on this topic. Do you ever wonder why G is the only coach that basically runs a practice before the game? It turns out that you have to go back to the Aaric Murray days. Murray and Jerrell Williams were hoisting 3's in warm ups. Joking around with shots they will for the most part never take in a game. So to get them to focus G treated the pre-game warm ups like a practice. Those players are years removed though. If that’s still the case, perhaps you look at what you’re teaching. I don't understand? I think the coach thinks this is a way to get the players focused on the game right up to the last second.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 19, 2017 10:00:06 GMT -5
Those players are years removed though. If that’s still the case, perhaps you look at what you’re teaching. I don't understand? I think the coach thinks this is a way to get the players focused on the game right up to the last second. You mentioned two knuckleheads doing something pregame for a reason G conducts his warmups. Those players are no longer here. You don’t find it weird he’s the ‘only coach doing this’ as you said.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 19, 2017 10:06:48 GMT -5
I don't understand? I think the coach thinks this is a way to get the players focused on the game right up to the last second. You mentioned two knuckleheads doing something pregame for a reason G conducts his warmups. Those players are no longer here. You don’t find it weird he’s the ‘only coach doing this’ as you said. No I don't. Football teams run offensive and defensive plays in warm ups. Lineman do some contact. Basketball seems to have guys do lay up lines and then shoot random shots.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 19, 2017 10:08:40 GMT -5
You mentioned two knuckleheads doing something pregame for a reason G conducts his warmups. Those players are no longer here. You don’t find it weird he’s the ‘only coach doing this’ as you said. No I don't. Football teams run offensive and defensive plays in warm ups. Lineman do some contact. Basketball seems to have guys do lay up lines and then shoot random shots. ok, but don’t use Aaric Murray and Jerrell Williams then. G must just be innovative.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Nov 19, 2017 10:24:50 GMT -5
You mentioned two knuckleheads doing something pregame for a reason G conducts his warmups. Those players are no longer here. You don’t find it weird he’s the ‘only coach doing this’ as you said. No I don't. Football teams run offensive and defensive plays in warm ups. Lineman do some contact. Basketball seems to have guys do lay up lines and then shoot random shots. Hey Joe - Don't call my man Jerrell Williams a knucklehead. He undoubtedly owns La Salle's season, game, and career records for shots blocked back into his face. BTW - If you get a shot blocked back into your face, grab the ball after it bounces off your forehead, put up another shot that gets blocked off your face, and then grab the ball after it bounces off your chin - does that count as two rebounds?? "Rep your program" or whatever.
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Post by postup on Nov 19, 2017 10:33:52 GMT -5
Disappointing game. They could be in real trouble today against BC.
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Post by hoopsguest on Nov 19, 2017 10:52:12 GMT -5
The only ex player on staff is Sean Neal and he's the most vocal. Pappy has been with G since I think Day One. Donnie is an ex player but not of G - so it's a different dynamic than it is with Sean. It's easy to criticize unless you watch practice - that's where the real teaching takes place.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 19, 2017 12:43:13 GMT -5
No I don't. Football teams run offensive and defensive plays in warm ups. Lineman do some contact. Basketball seems to have guys do lay up lines and then shoot random shots. Hey Joe - Don't call my man Jerrell Williams a knucklehead. He undoubtedly owns La Salle's season, game, and career records for shots blocked back into his face. BTW - If you get a shot blocked back into your face, grab the ball after it bounces off your forehead, put up another shot that gets blocked off your face, and then grab the ball after it bounces off your chin - does that count as two rebounds?? "Rep your program" or whatever. Obligatory soundtrack for pregame warmup practices :
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