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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 16, 2017 12:46:35 GMT -5
5 games into conference play, in parentheses is where we were going into conference play:
ESPN - 62nd (78th) NCAA - 64th (81st) CBS - 64th (81st) Kenpom - 85th (102nd)
Offense efficiency:
ESPN - 19th (21st) Kenpom - 26th (35th)
Defense efficiency:
ESPN - 293rd (309th) Kenpom - 252nd (248th)
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 16, 2017 12:47:21 GMT -5
What's interesting from doing this, while our offense further improved our defense stayed almost exactly the same.
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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on Jan 16, 2017 12:56:45 GMT -5
What's interesting from doing this, while our offense further improved our defense stayed almost exactly the same. Would that be the streak of high % shot completions buoying it for the time being?
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 16, 2017 16:58:05 GMT -5
If we win the next 2 games, Isn't it realistic that we could break into the top 50 RPI in the country? Beating GW and URI moved us from 90 to 64 last week. While winning against Davidson won't be a huge boon for the RPI, following it with a win @ VCU (38) should catapult us up the list. That's our best chance to make an argument for the tournament. I think this is much less how many you beat this year as much as it will be who we beat from here out.
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Post by sweat83 on Jan 16, 2017 17:07:33 GMT -5
If we win the next 2 games, Isn't it realistic that we could break into the top 50 RPI in the country? Beating GW and URI moved us from 90 to 64 last week. While winning against Davidson won't be a huge boon for the RPI, following it with a win @ VCU (38) should catapult us up the list. That's our best chance to make an argument for the tournament. I think this is much less how many you beat this year as much as it will be who we beat from here out. I'm not an RPI expert, but I would think it depends on how the teams in front of you fare. Probably alot easier to move up from far back, than it is to move up from up close.
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Post by vasalos on Jan 16, 2017 17:31:17 GMT -5
Beat VCU and we'll talk. Right now, we are a NIT Team.
I went to the game Sunday. I see this team on the same trajectory as the 2011/2012 and 2012/2013 teams. Exceptional X-Factor type player in BJ supporting the star Jordan Price only to take over the superstar role the following year. Don't be disappointed if La Salle only makes it to the NIT this year because it may bring very fruitful things next year.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jan 16, 2017 17:36:40 GMT -5
So good to have vasalos back
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Post by mikesmd77 on Jan 16, 2017 18:42:11 GMT -5
I'd love an NIT run and I believe if we get in we can win it. A first round loss would be a tough pill to swallow but I agree that this has Price = Pettis written all over it. Maybe not. We're heating up. We're not only beating teams, we're beating down teams. We played absolutely atrocious on the road at Dayton and they didn't exactly blow us off the floor. There's work to do. But our optimism isn't empty anymore.. there is absolutely reason to be optimistic, albeit cautiously. Let's have a big week.
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 16, 2017 18:48:01 GMT -5
I've said NIT since preseason anything more is gravy. My thoughts haven't changed with the good even though after Texas Southern I downgraded them. I feel now we're back to where I thought they'd be
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 16, 2017 20:01:27 GMT -5
I want to dance, but there's still 13 wins to be had, or a tournament to win in Pittsburgh.
I'm not going to say "fuck the NIT," but really, I will worry about it down the road. Like I really think if we end up top 3 in the conference, we should be OK, unless the A10 is a 2 bid league.
Richmond is the wildcard. It's going to be us or them. Kline is impressive.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 16, 2017 22:00:17 GMT -5
I want to dance, but there's still 13 wins to be had, or a tournament to win in Pittsburgh. I'm not going to say "fuck the NIT," but really, I will worry about it down the road. Like I really think if we end up top 3 in the conference, we should be OK, unless the A10 is a 2 bid league. Richmond is the wildcard. It's going to be us or them. Kline is impressive. Richmond resume is way too damaged to even get in the conversation unless they win an absurd number of games going forward.
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Post by lasalle89 on Jan 16, 2017 22:14:38 GMT -5
NCAA OR BUST!!!!
Martelli and St Joes would win the A10 with this team. They have done it in the past.
We need to get mentally tough and start playing lock down defense.
NCAA's should be the ONLY thing discussed. We have to start changing our mindset.
G must take the next step and win the A 10 tourny.
It all starts with winning 4 in a row during the regular season.
Let's go Explorers!!!!
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 16, 2017 22:24:33 GMT -5
NCAA OR BUST!!!! Martelli and St Joes would win the A10 with this team. They have done it in the past. We need to get mentally tough and start playing lock down defense. NCAA's should be the ONLY thing discussed. We have to start changing our mindset. G must take the next step and win the A 10 tourny. It all starts with winning 4 in a row during the regular season. Let's go Explorers!!!! I appreciate the enthusiasm but we can discuss whatever we want. I'm not playing so the rah rah speech to the board doesn't improve our chances at winning on the court
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 17, 2017 4:18:16 GMT -5
I want to dance, but there's still 13 wins to be had, or a tournament to win in Pittsburgh. I'm not going to say "fuck the NIT," but really, I will worry about it down the road. Like I really think if we end up top 3 in the conference, we should be OK, unless the A10 is a 2 bid league. Richmond is the wildcard. It's going to be us or them. Kline is impressive. Richmond resume is way too damaged to even get in the conversation unless they win an absurd number of games going forward. I should've been more clear. I'm talking about the battle for top 3 in the league. Richmond is the wild card there.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 17, 2017 8:58:23 GMT -5
Someone should tell Martelli to recruit this kind of roster, huh?
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Post by lasalle89 on Jan 17, 2017 10:01:29 GMT -5
Someone should tell Martelli to recruit this kind of roster, huh? We bash Martelli but the guy wins. He has won the A10 regular season and tourny multiple times. The NIT is the NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT. I want LaSalle to start living up to its potential. The president of our school comes on here. She can not think for one second that anything less the NCAA's is acceptable. You are allowed to think and say what you want on here. But saying NCAA or bust is a mindset. If we as fans are ok with less then this program is in even worse shape then I thought.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 17, 2017 10:08:19 GMT -5
Someone should tell Martelli to recruit this kind of roster, huh? The president of our school comes on here. I think we scared her off!
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Post by manayunk53 on Jan 17, 2017 10:10:07 GMT -5
Someone should tell Martelli to recruit this kind of roster, huh? We bash Martelli but the guy wins. He has won the A10 regular season and tourny multiple times. The NIT is the NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT. I want LaSalle to start living up to its potential. The president of our school comes on here. She can not think for one second that anything less the NCAA's is acceptable. You are allowed to think and say what you want on here. But saying NCAA or bust is a mindset. If we as fans are ok with less then this program is in even worse shape then I thought. I will go on the record and say that I am fine with the president thinking the NIT is OK. We are not Kansas. We are not Nova. The NCAA tournament is always the goal, but right now - for this program - the NIT would be a pretty nice consolation prize.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 17, 2017 10:18:18 GMT -5
Someone should tell Martelli to recruit this kind of roster, huh? We bash Martelli but the guy wins. He has won the A10 regular season and tourny multiple times. The NIT is the NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT. I want LaSalle to start living up to its potential. The president of our school comes on here. She can not think for one second that anything less the NCAA's is acceptable. You are allowed to think and say what you want on here. But saying NCAA or bust is a mindset. If we as fans are ok with less then this program is in even worse shape then I thought. Honestly can't tell if you need me to spell out the purpose of my comment.
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Post by blueandgold on Jan 17, 2017 10:57:50 GMT -5
We bash Martelli but the guy wins. He has won the A10 regular season and tourny multiple times. The NIT is the NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT. I want LaSalle to start living up to its potential. The president of our school comes on here. She can not think for one second that anything less the NCAA's is acceptable. You are allowed to think and say what you want on here. But saying NCAA or bust is a mindset. If we as fans are ok with less then this program is in even worse shape then I thought. Honestly can't tell if you need me to spell out the purpose of my comment. S-A-R-C-A-S-M?
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Post by 23won on Jan 17, 2017 11:01:20 GMT -5
If the team keeps improving, an a10 regular season championship is doable. That may be good enough to get a bid as long as we don't lay an egg in the tourney. G has not had good success in the tourney, and while I hope to be proven wrong in Pittsburgh, we've had more disappointment when it comes to conf tourneys.
Good news is we are 9-11 deep for the first time, our talent level is higher than ever and as long as all get PT and we continue to gel, we should show far better than we have historically. I think we should have the Packer mindset and start thinking and talking about running the table!
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Post by lasalle89 on Jan 17, 2017 11:08:50 GMT -5
If the team keeps improving, an a10 regular season championship is doable. That may be good enough to get a bid as long as we don't lay an egg in the tourney. G has not had good success in the tourney, and while I hope to be proven wrong in Pittsburgh, we've had more disappointment when it comes to conf tourneys. Good news is we are 9-11 deep for the first time, our talent level is higher than ever and as long as all get PT and we continue to gel, we should show far better than we have historically. I think we should have the Packer mindset and start thinking and talking about running the table! I agree.
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Post by lasalle89 on Jan 17, 2017 11:14:49 GMT -5
We bash Martelli but the guy wins. He has won the A10 regular season and tourny multiple times. The NIT is the NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT. I want LaSalle to start living up to its potential. The president of our school comes on here. She can not think for one second that anything less the NCAA's is acceptable. You are allowed to think and say what you want on here. But saying NCAA or bust is a mindset. If we as fans are ok with less then this program is in even worse shape then I thought. I will go on the record and say that I am fine with the president thinking the NIT is OK. We are not Kansas. We are not Nova. The NCAA tournament is always the goal, but right now - for this program - the NIT would be a pretty nice consolation prize. Are you going to go on record and say you are happy with our facility? How about our team underachieving every year?
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Post by MisterD on Jan 17, 2017 11:28:40 GMT -5
Honestly can't tell if you need me to spell out the purpose of my comment. S-A-R-C-A-S-M? Not entirely? Perhaps the dumbest recurring theme here is "just imagine if Dunphy/Martelli had this roster", as if Dunphy/Martelli aren't allowed to recruit (with substantial advantages) from the same exact pool as Giannini.
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Post by manayunk53 on Jan 17, 2017 11:30:01 GMT -5
I will go on the record and say that I am fine with the president thinking the NIT is OK. We are not Kansas. We are not Nova. The NCAA tournament is always the goal, but right now - for this program - the NIT would be a pretty nice consolation prize. Are you going to go on record and say you are happy with our facility? How about our team underachieving every year? Our facility is what it is - there's no point in harping on it here, especially because my comment had nothing to do with the facility to begin with. I don't take exception to your desire for improvement or for success in general, but I don't think you're being realistic about what a reasonable level of success is for this team right now. I also don't think that the team underachieves every year - in fact, I would say that in most years, the team wins most of the games it is supposed to win, and loses most of the games that it is supposed to lose. My only point was that I would love an NCAA berth, but that I would be happy with the NIT. We won nine games last year for God's sake.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 17, 2017 11:41:49 GMT -5
I don't take exception to your desire for improvement or for success in general, but I don't think you're being realistic about what a reasonable level of success is for this team right now. Right. Ignoring everything else, and there's a lot else, the pool of major conference + Atlantic 10 teams is exactly 100. Screaming "every year we miss the tournament is a failure" is self-evidently silly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:46:59 GMT -5
Every team wants to make the NCAA tournament every year. Whether it's Morgan State saying "we SHOULD be the best team in such a below average conference" Or UCONN saying "We are UCONN we have name recognition. Every year we should be elite 8" or UCLA still living off of "we made 10 final fours, we should still make one every year" basketball has come a long way. 352 are fighting for 68 spots. as Manayunk just reminded us, we had 9 wins last year. Let's take this season one game at a time. You can't make the NCAA tournament or NIT without winning in January first. Let's beat the Wildcats.
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Post by lasalle89 on Jan 17, 2017 12:28:02 GMT -5
Did anybody on the board go to the Sweet 16 in Los Angeles?
When we got to the airport in Philadelphia it is filled with people wearing LaSalle gear. We immediately started bonding with alumni and students. They made an announcement that all LaSalle fans can board first because we were going to represent the city of Philadelphia. The mall at the staples center was filled with thousands of people and LaSalle's huge banner hung right in the middle. You could not help but get a tear in your eye when you saw this. The pregame LaSalle party was incredible. We hung out with Lionel Simmons, Bo Kimble and so many ex-players fans students and alumni including the president and the athletic director. People sitting next to me at the game were locals who drove two hours just to watch LaSalle play because they love their brand of basketball. Everybody was talking about the Southwest Philly floater. It was just an incredible feeling to see our school represented on the big stage. You do not want to sit at the children's table after that experience. You cannot put a price tag on the exposure and marketing that did for our university. I have since kept in contact with some of the students I met. I sat with them at our first game against Manhattan the following year to watch our banner being raised. It was my pleasure to help get one of them an internship and another one a job. Once you get a taste of that you don't want to settle for anything less. I do realize we cannot make the tournament every year. This team has the talent and we are going to lose Price and I don't see anybody coming into make up that difference. As fans we have struggled with scandal and too many years of bad basketball. I really thought we turned the corner once we got to the Sweet 16. I know we are not Kansas or Duke but teams that are very similar to us are able to have success in the Atlantic 10 and get to the tournament with more frequency then us. I just want us back on the map and back at the adult table. If and when we get back in. I strongly urge you to go and experience it.
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Post by mookie on Jan 17, 2017 12:33:00 GMT -5
completely agree lasalle89... that was an amazing time and experience...something that the university should do everything in it's powers to make possible. it won't happen every year, but being in a position to make it happen...or even being in the tourney consistently creates the sort of school pride (not to mention revenue and exposure) that can't be overlooked
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Post by explorergolfer17 on Jan 17, 2017 15:56:01 GMT -5
completely agree lasalle89... that was an amazing time and experience...something that the university should do everything in it's powers to make possible. it won't happen every year, but being in a position to make it happen...or even being in the tourney consistently creates the sort of school pride (not to mention revenue and exposure) that can't be overlooked the fact that La Salle is not in the upper level of A-10 every year is a shame. No school in the conference has the history or tradition of La Salle. We have done a poor job of re establishing that history and tradition after the sweet 16 run. We are not a Florida Gulf Coast who is put on the map by 1 run. We need to be a school that considers that sweet 16 run just a part of our amazing history. The athletics department does not do a great job of showing that tradition and using it as an asset.
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