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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 13, 2014 10:53:56 GMT -5
The positive is that we have learned from Tom Hagen Arena/Fieldhouse what not to build at La Salle in the near future.
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Post by calidelphia on Feb 13, 2014 11:19:51 GMT -5
pretty great that 95% of their board just reiterated what we said to Hawksfan / fappingbird. Once again, a reason why I am glad we don't go on other boards, puff our chests and try taunting posters with idiotic statements (that I know of). It seems this poster is a much younger fan and has a young dumb and full of street corner garbage attitude (thanks mrs. THID). Either that or it's Lunardi.
As far as cheapshots, how have we completely skipped the fact that school admins have supported Martelli through all of the unethical ways he has treated student athletes and their families? That's as big of a testament to the schools ethos as anything.
if I had the decision to lose admirably or win like an asshole, I would concede the former. Martelli has been displaying questionable moral character through 20 loss seasons 2 of the past 5 years. Even if when we weren't (read are not) winning, at least G is respectful to the game, other coaches, fans, Big 5 history and his own players. Martelli hasn't been accused of that. As much empathy as I have had for him over last years events, It does not take away accounts of his actions towards players, coaches and the scheduling DB-ery of the games with us this year.
Their team is playing at as high of a level as they have in 6 years and if we can take this home game we have a chance to go 2-0 and send phil to the NIT. As we know, no Hawk fan cares about that post season play since they have such "high standards" according to their esteemed representative.
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 13, 2014 23:51:15 GMT -5
was the SJU mascot the creator or inspiration behind Flappy Bird? every time I play that game and I get the red bird, I pretend it's the Hawk and let that thing run straight into the ground with AUTHORITY!!! GO EXPLORERS!!!!!
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 10:50:08 GMT -5
Hawksfan, please address this then - if SJU is so academically beyond La Salle (because literally all of you say that we're SJU rejects on an ugly campus), what's up with your admission rate? Because that's a laughable number, honestly. For the record - I have never thought Lasalle was filled with SJU rejects. If others think that I would argue they are wrong. I have not spent much time in the classrooms, but visited friends there on numerous occasions when I was an undergrad. I think the buildings are fine but the area is trash. If you think the Hawk is eating street corner trash, it was probably found on the corner of 20th an Olney... As for the acceptance rate - it's horrible and a huge concern for students and alumni. I won't disagree with you that it is laughable, but at the end of the day no matter what happens with the acceptance rate your diploma means no more or less than an SJU diploma. When job hunting, unless you know a Lasalle grad - you are no better off than I am to get that job. Same exact thing for SJU, Drexel, even Villanova to an extent. Unless you are coming out of UPenn, diplomas coming from the City 6 are completely equal. As for Martelli, I'm not sure what unethical behavior you are talking about but last I checked he continues to bring in highly rated recruits year in and year out. Coaching them while on Hawk Hill has been an issue to a lot of Hawk fans, but overall each of the recruiting classes over the last 4 or 5 years has been VERY strong. If he is as unethical as you are saying don't you think word would get back to AAU coaches, parents, students, aunts and uncles? If you are talking about Todd O'brien, don't you think it's at the very least, tough to judge by only hearing one side of the story? NCAA rules say that a school employee cannot discuss matters about a student (one of the few rules I agree with!) so therefore there was never any kind of statement made by SJU/Phil/Don DiJulia etc. I'm definitely not willing to chalk the man up to 'unethical' because of one side of a bigger story. Maybe he was wrong, maybe he wasn't I honestly don't know. What I do know is that Todd was far from a model citizen and was involved with numerous incidents that led to other players being kick out of school. But what do I know, I'm too young...
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Post by MisterD on Feb 14, 2014 11:01:31 GMT -5
So O'Brien was such a bad dude that his punishment was "either you keep playing for me or you play nowhere"? That's a pretty poor defense of Martelli, you know.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 14, 2014 11:32:30 GMT -5
I think the buildings are fine but the area is trash. If you think the Hawk is eating street corner trash, it was probably found on the corner of 20th an Olney...But what do I know, I'm too young... Spoken like a true Saint Josephs (lol) (pa) gentleman and scholar.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 11:40:49 GMT -5
I think the buildings are fine but the area is trash. Would you care to define "area" and why you consider it "trash"? What suggestions do you have to improve the "area"?
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 14, 2014 11:42:13 GMT -5
Questions remain about the TOB situation.
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Post by La Salle 08 on Feb 14, 2014 12:02:57 GMT -5
How do you think AAU coaches players and their families feel about the way the Martelli family treated CJ Aiken when he decided to pursue his NBA career?
Martelli's daughter ever open her twitter account again?
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 12:12:34 GMT -5
How do you think AAU coaches players and their families feel about the way the Martelli family treated CJ Aiken when he decided to pursue his NBA career? Martelli's daughter ever open her twitter account again? I agree with you, she shouldn't have done that. She needs to keep her mouth shut especially since she is Phil's daughter. Unacceptable and she and Phil took a lot of heat from SJU students, alum and fans. As for the area Lasalle is in, I have no suggestions on how to clean it up. I also think the school has done nothing but help the area...with that being said would you all consider it to be a nice area? I guess only SJU grads think that North Philadelphia, 20th and Olney, isn't a nice area.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 12:46:44 GMT -5
How do you think AAU coaches players and their families feel about the way the Martelli family treated CJ Aiken when he decided to pursue his NBA career? Martelli's daughter ever open her twitter account again? I agree with you, she shouldn't have done that. She needs to keep her mouth shut especially since she is Phil's daughter. Unacceptable and she and Phil took a lot of heat from SJU students, alum and fans. As for the area Lasalle is in, I have no suggestions on how to clean it up. I also think the school has done nothing but help the area...with that being said would you all consider it to be a nice area? I guess only SJU grads think that North Philadelphia, 20th and Olney, isn't a nice area. Okay so it seems as if you are referring to "North Philadelphia, 20th and Olney, isn't nice area." Pretty big area and about a quarter of the city. Define what "nice" means.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 12:55:09 GMT -5
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 14, 2014 12:57:38 GMT -5
Speaking of AAU and "nice" places, what's that flap about Hawk fans ripping their own players so hard on their board that recruits have been alienated and SJU of Penna., has trouble recruiting in the city? Burn the village to save the village...
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 13:22:45 GMT -5
Speaking of AAU and "nice" places, what's that flap about Hawk fans ripping their own players so hard on their board that recruits have been alienated and SJU of Penna., has trouble recruiting in the city? There is absolutely nothing that says that other than your extremely biased speculation.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 13:49:41 GMT -5
Speaking of AAU and "nice" places, what's that flap about Hawk fans ripping their own players so hard on their board that recruits have been alienated and SJU of Penna., has trouble recruiting in the city? There is absolutely nothing that says that other than your extremely biased speculation. Waiting for answer to my question.
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 14:00:09 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing that says that other than your extremely biased speculation. Waiting for answer to my question. nice adjective \?n?s\ : attractive or of good quality : kind, polite, and friendly
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 14:15:37 GMT -5
Waiting for answer to my question. nice adjective \?n?s\ : attractive or of good quality : kind, polite, and friendly That is from a dictionary. I think we all know what YOU mean by "nice" but don't have the guts to say. BTW, there are lots of people of good quality, kind, polite and friendly if you ever came to the campus and neighborhood around La Salle.
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 14:34:42 GMT -5
So you think I am bringing race into this? Race does not make the person. Plenty of diversity when it comes to crime and drug abuse. Would you consider North Philadelphia, specifically the area surrounding LaSalle, a "nice" area. Would you be willing to own a home there? Have your children grow up there? Send your kids/grand kids/niece/nephew/cousins to school in that area? This is an honest question.
I don't for one second doubt that there are plenty of good people in the area. I have spent many weekend nights visiting friends that went to LaSalle and have met some of the 'nice' people and some of the not 'nice' people in the area. I am basing my opinions on experiences, not word of mouth.
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Post by coachd on Feb 14, 2014 14:48:00 GMT -5
So you think I am bringing race into this? Race does not make the person. Plenty of diversity when it comes to crime and drug abuse. Would you consider North Philadelphia, specifically the area surrounding LaSalle, a "nice" area. Would you be willing to own a home there? Have your children grow up there? Send your kids/grand kids/niece/nephew/cousins to school in that area? This is an honest question. I don't for one second doubt that there are plenty of good people in the area. I have spent many weekend nights visiting friends that went to LaSalle and have met some of the 'nice' people and some of the not 'nice' people in the area. I am basing my opinions on experiences, not word of mouth. Many areas of the city are to be avoided due to numerous reasons including allowing folks to get "freebies at the cost of taxpayers" such as welfare and food stamps when they are capable of working. Instead illegal aliens fill the void that should be filled by the citizens claiming welfare and food stamps. Illegal substances become a temporary escape for some in these areas.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 14:51:30 GMT -5
I grew up at Broad and Erie and attended La Salle. My wife and sister-in-law attended La Salle. I have had a brother attend La Salle. I have had two children attend La Salle. I live in the suburbs now and three kids on my street all go to La Salle.
Do all SJU people think like you?
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 15:05:24 GMT -5
Google is SJU "safe"?
My prof got mugged walking from Overbrook station around 6:30 PM many years ago - early 90's. I'm pretty sure that cured him of any illusion that the area is safe after dark. I worked with a guy who was mugged at gunpoint walking to his off campus apartment after dark - this was in the mid-late 90s as well. Considering the current economy I'm going to go out on a limb and say the area is probably more dangerous that it was in good times...so, no, I would not recommend walking alone after dark off campus...
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 15:16:19 GMT -5
I grew up at Broad and Erie and attended La Salle. My wife and sister-in-law attended La Salle. I have had a brother attend La Salle. I have had two children attend La Salle. I live in the suburbs now and three kids on my street all go to La Salle. Do all SJU people think like you? When I asked about the schools I meant elementary schools, and high schools. I think Lasalle and SJU have a lot in common in terms of academics. The surrounding area at Lasalle, today in 2014, is not a 'nice' area in my mind, and the minds of MANY - not just SJU grads. I would be willing to send my kids to LaSalle U if that's where they wanted to go, but I would never in a million years send them to area elementary schools or HS. Before you paint me as racist, it has nothing to do with the amount of black/white/Asian/Hispanic people there, and everything to do with having to walk through a metal detector before 1st period homeroom. This is the reason why many move out of the area and into the suburbs, many of those people grew up in the area before things started getting dicey. Maybe you fit into that group of exiles, maybe not.
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 15:26:51 GMT -5
Google is SJU "safe"? My prof got mugged walking from Overbrook station around 6:30 PM many years ago - early 90's. I'm pretty sure that cured him of any illusion that the area is safe after dark. I worked with a guy who was mugged at gunpoint walking to his off campus apartment after dark - this was in the mid-late 90s as well. Considering the current economy I'm going to go out on a limb and say the area is probably more dangerous that it was in good times...so, no, I would not recommend walking alone after dark off campus... At no time did I say SJU was safe. I never compared the two places - not once. I would not send my kids to area elementary schools or high schools and I wouldn't own a home around there. I always felt safe on campus, and always did things to assure safety (traveling in groups, limiting 'after dark' trips, taking the long well lit road instead of the shorter dark roads). I don't think SJU was free of neighborhood crime or drug abuse.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 15:30:30 GMT -5
Central High School ,one of the most prestigious high school's in the country, is our neighbor. Same with Girl's High School. Funny no one ever mentions the neighborhood when they refer to those two schools.
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 15:34:10 GMT -5
Central High School ,one of the most prestigious high school's in the country, is our neighbor. Same with Girl's High School. Funny no one ever mentions the neighborhood when they refer to those two schools. Don't want to be associated with it.... Not that funny. Why did you move out of the area? Also googled is SJU safe and this is the most accurate that I saw - "The City Line area is nothing like north Philadelphia. Most of St. joe's is located on the Philadelphia side of City Line Avenue in a neighborhood know as Wynnefield. It is in the 19th Police District, which has a substantial amount of dangerous crime, but mostly at the other end, down toward Market Street. The campus is well patrolled by security and the Philadelphia Police are very vigilant. The Cardinal lives just off campus, so you know the neighborhood is relatively secure. College students make easy targets, and bad guys know that, so every now and then students do get robbed. And lots of cars do get stolen. But, the campus is in general safe, and there are lots of very nice, prominent people who live in Wynnefield. The Lower Merion side suffers from the same problems, right along City Line Avenue, but the campus on the LM side is in a very exclusive neighborhood, and safe to live in. There will always be crime on City Line Avenue, because it has lots of potential victims (stores, parking lots, college students) and good escape routes (it connects with I-76 and goes south to I 476 on on into Delaware and connects with Route 30 and Route 3) But, you are as safe going to St. Joe's as you are going to any other college in the northeast."
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 16:23:49 GMT -5
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 14, 2014 16:43:24 GMT -5
SJU of Penna. made a decision decades ago to move to City Line Avenue. La Salle made a decision decades ago to move to what was then, a very rural part of the city. Decisions were made and that's that. I looked at the homicide rate map since 1988 this morning...ones that happened within one block of campus for both schools and guess what they are even. Talking about crime bores me and does not pump me up for tomorrows game. I'd much rather talk about the perception of Hawk fans in the Delaware Valley. Just remembered this little shot from Crossing Broad back last year... www.crossingbroad.com/category/teams-2/la-salle
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Post by hawksfan on Feb 14, 2014 16:44:22 GMT -5
Waiting for answer to my question.
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Post by durenduren on Feb 14, 2014 17:00:53 GMT -5
Hawksfan is butthurt because St Joe's most comparable school is Philadelphia Community College. Anyone who applies gets in!
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Post by jellybean on Feb 14, 2014 17:04:20 GMT -5
Waiting for answer to my question. [/quote What question? Why I moved? My father died and it was necessary for my mom to take us to live with relatives. Satisfied. I'm done.
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