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Post by lasallescreamer on Oct 29, 2013 2:40:46 GMT -5
The loss of Ramon is only a killer if the entire team cannot step up as individuals and as a collective unit.They will. Please give them a chance.
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Post by lasalle89 on Oct 29, 2013 7:23:41 GMT -5
Didnt Garland, with the inspiration from Cousin Bern, hit the NCAA game winner? Didnt Duren hit a game winner as well? Ramon helped teach the team how to win. This is a DIFFERENT TEAM now. A new leader will emerge. I fully expect this team filled with upper classman and NCAA experience to grind out games and win the close ones at the end. I think many of our games will come down to the wire. Maybe not last shot but the last two minutes for sure. The ball will be in Tyreeks hands and I feel confident that he will make the right decisions with the game on the line. Also. When does G pick a captain for the team?
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Post by jellybean on Oct 29, 2013 7:47:33 GMT -5
I think that Garland will replace Galloway's points. Might even average a point per game higher. He will have less 3 pointers but more 2's and FT's. We will miss RG's rebounding and steals but Garland will actually take better care with the ball. I think he'll have more assists and less turnover than Ramon. The intangible factor (personality) will be missed but others will step up.
The biggest concern is who replaces Garland's production especially off the bench. I don't see Lewis scoring more than 3-4 pts a game. (No diss at KL). The returning cast will be improved so that will pick up some of the slack.
I see less scoring and better defense (unless this awful decision to call 50 fouls a game is tempered down).
Record 22-8 or 23-7. A10 11-5 or 12-4. (3rd or 4th in regular season. Nice to make A10 Finals but Semi's is more likely.) NCAA's maybe in 7-11 seed. Win one. Lose one. all about matchups.
This season more than any one I can ever remember will have about half the season decided by 3-4 points a game. Need to win 2/3's of them.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Oct 29, 2013 8:09:38 GMT -5
I think Duren is going to have a monster year and his stat line will be significantly better than Ramon's - I'm not undervaluing the loss of Galloway I'm just saying the fact is the team will be different doesn't mean it will be worse.
I would've been way more concerned if we graduated Wright and had to replace him
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Post by MisterD on Oct 29, 2013 8:24:44 GMT -5
Didnt Garland, with the inspiration from Cousin Bern, hit the NCAA game winner? Didnt Duren hit a game winner as well? This is part of my point; having Galloway on the floor made these plays easier. He's option 1, the defense is focusing on option 1, but he was a smart enough option 1 to know that there were times when 2 or 3 were better plays.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 29, 2013 8:28:22 GMT -5
LUHoops, I've always sort of been interested in knowing where we rank guys in terms of "can't lose" but it seems like a jerk exercise because of the flip implications. Interesting that you had Jerrell #1; even with all my Ramon love here Duren has been my guy. Without him, we're totally different and I'm going to cry like the littlest, crybabiest crybaby at his last game.
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Post by durenduren on Oct 29, 2013 9:32:19 GMT -5
Interesting that you had Jerrell #1; even with all my Ramon love here Duren has been my guy. Without him, we're totally different and I'm going to cry like the littlest, crybabiest crybaby at his last game. Think I'm going to quit basketball that day. We've been awfully lucky to have certain players chose La Salle.
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Post by talkinbball on Oct 29, 2013 9:34:37 GMT -5
Galloway will, obviously, be missed but I believe the key to this year's team is tied directly to the attitude/approach that TG brings to the games. I think he can be a real difference maker but also needs to realize that he does not have to score 25 a night for us to win. The more he plays within the team concept and does not force his game (he gives me the impression he could be that type player) the better our chances for success.
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Post by coqui900 on Oct 29, 2013 9:43:30 GMT -5
I hope we have an insanely great year and I hope our senior day is really special. We sorta blew it last year, I think. Not anyone's fault because of the scheduling but the gym didn't have a huge attendance. I hope this year it's a sell-out with an extended standing ovation. Everyone who plays through senior year deserves that but especially our four seniors.
P.S. -- Am I alone in really, really, really liking Taylor Dunn? I know he's not great but the kid is always the first off the bench to give daps, hugs, etc. He seems like another "heart and soul of the team" type of kid. I'm partial to those kids being that I was a bench guy growing up and my role was to be a good teammate and hustle when I got into games. I'm also eagerly awaiting the game where he makes a few threes off the bench. He's got great form on his shots.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Oct 29, 2013 10:02:32 GMT -5
LUHoops, I've always sort of been interested in knowing where we rank guys in terms of "can't lose" but it seems like a jerk exercise because of the flip implications. Interesting that you had Jerrell #1; even with all my Ramon love here Duren has been my guy. Without him, we're totally different and I'm going to cry like the littlest, crybabiest crybaby at his last game. Tyreek is far and away my all-time favorite player to wear a La Salle uniform since I've been associated with the University. I can't believe it's been 4 years already for this kid. having said that, I think what Jerrell brings us would be much more difficult to replace on the roster as it currently stands than what Tyreek brings us. Not to contradict myself, but what Tyreek brings is exponentially more important. When Tyreek has the ball in his hands, it's like everyone in the gym knows the right play will be made. My only gripe with Duren is that he's such a team player he sometimes defers too much to others on the roster (Murray, Pettis, Galloway) that may have been more demanding of the basketball. I think this year, TD3 will view himself more as the man for the team and is going to be an absolute monster scoring and dishing. He won't average 20+ a night because that would require too many shots and he's not going to be open enough times, but he will find the open man every time. Maybe I'm convincing myself too change my mindset, but I still think we have enough guard depth that replenishing front court production is a lot more difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 10:30:48 GMT -5
Galloway will, obviously, be missed but I believe the key to this year's team is tied directly to the attitude/approach that TG brings to the games. I think he can be a real difference maker but also needs to realize that he does not have to score 25 a night for us to win. The more he plays within the team concept and does not force his game (he gives me the impression he could be that type player) the better our chances for success. Based on the way that he played at the open practice, I feel confident that TG understands this. I only recall one forced shot from him the entire time, and that was with the shot clock running down. I expect a very good season from him and like Jellybean posted, he should be able to replace Ramon's points and maybe even surpass them. I see Ty's 13 ppg being replaced by committee (Khalid at 6-7 ppg, and scoring average increases from Jerrell (11 to 13), Sam (8 to 11) and Steve (6 to 8), and possibly DJ as well). IMO, those are pretty conservative estimates. Besides Jerrell, the one player who I think benefitted most from the Sweet 16 run is Sam. He hit a number of big shots in the tournament and his confidence level jumped because of it. There's no reason why his production can't jump back up to his sophomore year level. I thought he looked very good at the open practice and he was even finishing around the rim much stronger than in the past. Like TD and TG, I think Sam goes out with a strong senior season. All three of them are winners and that's not going to change just because Ramon is gone. I'm not saying this team will make another Sweet 16 run, but they have a chance to be very good despite the loss of Ramon. I fully expect to see them in the postseason for the third straight year. I see all these preseason rankings that are being put out and other than maybe the top 15, I don't see anyone that La Salle can't match up with. They have all the ingredients to be successful (quality backcourt with depth, two very good low post players, and team chemistry to name a few).
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Post by coqui900 on Oct 29, 2013 11:26:53 GMT -5
I'm really excited to see Khalid get on it on defense. I'm picturing a dude who can just make guards pick up their dribble before a play can even start to run. I love it when guys get disrupted like that. Two years ago when we crushed Bucknell it was all because our guards just took there's out of commission and they couldn't get the ball anywhere near Muscala.
I'm super glad the NBA is starting tonight but couldn't be more excited for Nov. 9th.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 29, 2013 12:08:37 GMT -5
I tend to think (hope) that with the ball in his hands more, more minutes and less of an inclination to try to cram 40 minutes worth of production into bench minutes, that Garland will become a calmer, more efficient player. I think he's a superior offensive player to RG off the bounce and is far craftier in tight spaces, but obviously Ramon's range and accuracy were game-changers. I think what we'll miss most from RG is his energy, defense and rebounding. Maybe the rebounding loss is offset by more 2-big lineups, but his ability to play bigger than he was made us a lot more flexible. Of course last year at this time I was thinking we wouldn't be able to play small anymore due to the loss of Pettis, so we'll see. I'm hoping we still have enough good shooters to get good spacing. My guess is that if and when we go to 4-guard lineups that DJ will have to be one of the guards (for both his size and floor spacing). If TG and KL still have inconsistent (or just plain poor) 3-point shots, it could be difficult to play them simultaneously unless an opponent pigheadedly goes man-to-man against that lineup.
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Post by explorerman on Oct 29, 2013 16:02:17 GMT -5
I tend to think (hope) that with the ball in his hands more, more minutes and less of an inclination to try to cram 40 minutes worth of production into bench minutes, that Garland will become a calmer, more efficient player. I think he's a superior offensive player to RG off the bounce and is far craftier in tight spaces, but obviously Ramon's range and accuracy were game-changers. I think what we'll miss most from RG is his energy, defense and rebounding. Maybe the rebounding loss is offset by more 2-big lineups, but his ability to play bigger than he was made us a lot more flexible. Of course last year at this time I was thinking we wouldn't be able to play small anymore due to the loss of Pettis, so we'll see. I'm hoping we still have enough good shooters to get good spacing. My guess is that if and when we go to 4-guard lineups that DJ will have to be one of the guards (for both his size and floor spacing). If TG and KL still have inconsistent (or just plain poor) 3-point shots, it could be difficult to play them simultaneously unless an opponent pigheadedly goes man-to-man against that lineup. From what I have heard and seen regarding Lewis is that his height (legit 6'3) and quickness/speed is so rare.. I mean we are talking one of the quickest players in the country and he is taller than most... Rare combo
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 16:57:34 GMT -5
From what I have heard and seen regarding Lewis is that his height (legit 6'3) and quickness/speed is so rare.. I mean we are talking one of the quickest players in the country and he is taller than most... Rare combo I sat 5 rows up at center court for the game at Delaware a couple years ago, and Khalid was the second fastest player that La Salle faced that season (behind Chaz Williams), and not by much. His speed gave Tyreek a lot of problems that night.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Oct 29, 2013 20:06:13 GMT -5
That Delaware game was one of the most frustrating nights of my life - Lewis had a lot to do with that.
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Post by mookie on Oct 30, 2013 10:29:55 GMT -5
I'm going to have to disagree with you luhoopsfan. I don't see much of an increase in Duren's raw stat line. I'm hoping his TOs remain the same, if not decrease. At 2 TOs per game at 35mpg, that's going to be tough to match or even improve upon. I think it's important to see improved efficiency for him.
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Post by bernards on Oct 30, 2013 11:03:12 GMT -5
Garland IMO will have comparable offensive stats to Galloway. I'm just not sure where we replace TY's presence in coming off of the bench. This was the first time since Bobby Johnson we had that kind of 6th man. Lewis is supposed to be that man. We will see. Also as been said before expect to see more of an inside game from this team. G will have to make that adjustment. We will see less 4 guard lineups with this team.
Not to be understated also was Galloway's leadership last year.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 30, 2013 11:25:13 GMT -5
Some interesting G quotes in Blue Ribbon:
ON GARLAND: “He’s a scorer, always has been—that’s just in his basketball genes,” he said. “That’s one of the reasons we think we can handle the loss of Ramon. Obviously with everyone else back we have a ton of continuity, but we also have a guy [Garland] who can score a lot of points in a hurry. “The key thing with Tyrone will be his mentality. Will he be a mature senior that is really hungry or will he feel like, ‘OK, Ramon is gone, now it’s my turn,’ and then expect it to happen easily because it looks like a natural progression? If he assumes he’s going to have a great year, that of course could be a problem. If we keep him hungry and help him realize that this is his one full year of college basketball in his career—if he just appreciates that he has to try to cram a career into this year and a half—he could be absolutely tremendous, as good as any guard in this league.”
ON WRIGHT: “Jerrell seems to have defied that rule,” Gianni said. “I think he’s much better than he was at the end of last season, and that’s really saying a lot. The biggest reason is that he just keeps getting stronger. He’s mentally more confident and comfortable. He knows he’s good now as opposed to thinking he’s good.
ON LEWIS: Lewis still needs to improve his 3-point consistency, but when it comes to defense, Gianni said, “There will be no drop off from Ramon to Khalid.”
ON DAVIS: “He’ll be able to give us quality minutes this year,” the coach added. “I don’t know how many, but they’ll be quality.”
ON STUKES: Giannini called Stukes “one of the best players I’ll ever coach.”
The La Salle writeup was done by Brendan Quinn, who used to cover the team here. It's easily the best preview publication out there, but is a little pricier and can only be ordered directly from Blue Ribbon
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Post by lwc4591 on Oct 30, 2013 11:43:15 GMT -5
Sounds like G is giving clear insight on how good he expects Stukes to be. J.Wright to me is a given and as I said two years ago before playing a single college game Jerrell may not be an All American but he would be a player to remember. G seems to be saying Davis if he doesn't get into foul trouble quickly will be a solid contributor. Lewis will be fine and to me he is not a concern probably scoring 5-6 per game while playing lock down defense.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2013 11:50:39 GMT -5
Wow on that Stukes comment.
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Post by broderickpresident on Oct 30, 2013 11:52:26 GMT -5
Foul trouble and also conditioning:
"Giannini said Davis’ potential is “extremely high,” but conditioning is an issue."
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Post by jellybean on Oct 30, 2013 11:53:41 GMT -5
Garland IMO will have comparable offensive stats to Galloway. I'm just not sure where we replace TY's presence in coming off of the bench. Wish I had said that.
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Post by durenduren on Oct 30, 2013 11:54:54 GMT -5
I think G likes Stukes.
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Post by explorerman on Oct 30, 2013 13:09:55 GMT -5
YIkes on that Stukes quote.. Talk about setting a high bar...
Well I think, barring an unforeseen changes, the 2014-15 loaded lineup is set... An absolutely nice luxury to have..
Stukes-Price-Roberts-Wright-Zack with Lewis being the 6th man and a whole lot of minutes...
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2013 13:22:42 GMT -5
That lineup has some serious size.
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Post by stlexplorer on Oct 30, 2013 13:24:27 GMT -5
Yea wow I'm really excited to see Stukes now.
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Post by lwc4591 on Oct 30, 2013 13:27:21 GMT -5
Not so fast Explorerman. I say go big with 6-8 (Wright), 6-10 (Washington) and 6-11 (Zack) along with 6-5 (Roberts) and 6-3 (Lewis) just so we can confuse the opposition on opening day. Joking aside your starting five looks about right. Nice team next season. 6th man could be Peterson, Washington, Davis or Lewis.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Oct 30, 2013 14:12:29 GMT -5
YIkes on that Stukes quote.. Talk about setting a high bar... Well I think, barring an unforeseen changes, the 2014-15 loaded lineup is set... An absolutely nice luxury to have.. Stukes-Price-Roberts-Wright-Zack with Lewis being the 6th man and a whole lot of minutes... G said Jerrell would be the best big man he's ever coached and he certainly seems to be on pace for that. He's definitely the best big we've had at La Salle I've seen in the 18 years I've followed the program. And please, no one say Aaric Murray.
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Post by mookie on Oct 30, 2013 14:57:51 GMT -5
I'd say Reggie was pretty high...I actually would've taken Reggie over Jerrel
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