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Post by 23won on Nov 24, 2018 9:39:50 GMT -5
As of 11/24, after the NW game, here are a few thoughts
1) we are getting better offensive looks than game 1, but we need to get better by creating more motion picks (where they D man gets lost) and we need to shoot from higher percentage spots on the floor-
We are settling for top of the key and corner 3s when we should be shooting on the arc in the space in between, ideally in the sweet spot on the arc diagonal to the elbow
2) we are learning how to press but we are dedicating JK at the baseline and giving up way to many dunk flushes once the press is broken; guard traps have been good so would like that to continue but I’d rather see Jared as last man on press and Miles between him and the guards
3) we are giving the bonus and double bonus way too early giving opponents an easy way to score and build a lead; need to stop pointless backcourt fouls and focus on containing the man without reaching; containment will leads to TOs especially if there is constant guard pressure from inbound to mid court
4) shooting green lights need to be managed to good open looks for all; the shooting percentages and low quality shot selection (especially for Beatty and Carter) have been a disappointment
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Post by mookie on Nov 24, 2018 9:43:39 GMT -5
Surprised by Beatty because i was hoping for a better shooter thinking his percentages as a freshman were because he was a freshman. Carter’s shooting is as expected to date...although I was expecting more of a lead facilitator from him and don’t think that’s been the case.
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Post by 23won on Nov 24, 2018 9:53:00 GMT -5
I don’t think we can count on 3s from Carter (23%), Beatty (26%), Mosely (30%) and especially Brookins (20%). The guards need to slash and dish or create a high quality midrange shot. Have not seen these 3 with any ability to hit a floater.
Would rather see Brookins and Kimbrough picking and working baseline and lane with cuts for easy looks. Playing Brookins on arc makes no sense. He is not a threat from 3 and his defender always seals him off so he almost never gets an O rebound. 3 rpg in 23 minutes is something that needs to be fixed.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 24, 2018 9:58:51 GMT -5
I would play Saul
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Post by durenduren on Nov 24, 2018 10:00:38 GMT -5
There it is - the secret weapon. |
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Post by mookie on Nov 24, 2018 10:04:43 GMT -5
As much as I would love to see Saul be that 3-and-D guy, he didn’t shoot much better having never eclipsed 30%. |
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Post by durenduren on Nov 24, 2018 10:08:50 GMT -5
I'd like to change our amount of wins from zero to not zero.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 24, 2018 10:19:10 GMT -5
Not a secret weapon, but he defends well.
I don't expect to beat the Gators, or The U, but I expect to beat bad Patriot league teams and bad CAA teams.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 24, 2018 10:38:20 GMT -5
So, stupid question. How much does a really, really, really bad season impact Ash's ability to recruit next year? The optics behind a 4 or 6 win season are much different to a recruit than a 10 or 13 win season - it is to me at least - and how does that impact his ability to pitch a quick turn-around/rebuild?
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 24, 2018 10:41:00 GMT -5
So, stupid question. How much does a really, really, really bad season impact Ash's ability to recruit next year? The optics behind a 4 or 6 win season are much different to a recruit than a 10 or 13 win season - it is to me at least - and how does that impact his ability to pitch a quick turn-around/rebuild? It sure doesn’t help. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 24, 2018 10:55:40 GMT -5
So, stupid question. How much does a really, really, really bad season impact Ash's ability to recruit next year? The optics behind a 4 or 6 win season are much different to a recruit than a 10 or 13 win season - it is to me at least - and how does that impact his ability to pitch a quick turn-around/rebuild? Kids want playing time. I think a recruit looks at this and says...I can come here and immediately compete for playing time as a freshman and be an impact player. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 24, 2018 11:09:32 GMT -5
I really wish we would stop talking about Saul.
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Post by milkoliverwurst on Nov 24, 2018 11:10:38 GMT -5
So, stupid question. How much does a really, really, really bad season impact Ash's ability to recruit next year? The optics behind a 4 or 6 win season are much different to a recruit than a 10 or 13 win season - it is to me at least - and how does that impact his ability to pitch a quick turn-around/rebuild? A trip to the sweet 16 didn't help our recruiting either. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 24, 2018 11:20:42 GMT -5
I really wish we would stop talking about Saul. Agreed. I think it's unfair when we don't know the situation. I'm sure he wants to be out there on the floor playing and, for whatever reason that we don't deserve to know, isn't. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 24, 2018 12:29:26 GMT -5
I really wish we would stop talking about Saul. Agreed. I think it's unfair when we don't know the situation. I'm sure he wants to be out there on the floor playing and, for whatever reason that we don't deserve to know, isn't. Or he doesn’t and that’s his prerogative. A bunch of people without information making insinuations isn’t fair. |
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Nov 24, 2018 13:00:54 GMT -5
So, stupid question. How much does a really, really, really bad season impact Ash's ability to recruit next year? The optics behind a 4 or 6 win season are much different to a recruit than a 10 or 13 win season - it is to me at least - and how does that impact his ability to pitch a quick turn-around/rebuild? Well, if we have a ridiculously bad year it will result in mediocre attendance (if that much) at home games with an "arena" devoid of enthusiasm. That does NOT help recruiting one iota. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Nov 24, 2018 13:37:59 GMT -5
I don’t think we can count on 3s from Carter (23%), Beatty (26%), Mosely (30%) and especially Brookins (20%). The guards need to slash and dish or create a high quality midrange shot. Have not seen these 3 with any ability to hit a floater. Would rather see Brookins and Kimbrough picking and working baseline and lane with cuts for easy looks. Playing Brookins on arc makes no sense. He is not a threat from 3 and his defender always seals him off so he almost never gets an O rebound. 3 rpg in 23 minutes is something that needs to be fixed. mosely can shoot. him and moultrie should be getting more minutes than beatty. at this point, a shot by beatty is the equivalent of a turnover. don't start the game with the press. puts the team in an early hole and in early foul trouble. mix some zone in. |
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Post by ltrain38 on Nov 24, 2018 13:51:51 GMT -5
I really wish we would stop talking about Saul. Yeah, but then we couldn't fool ourselves into thinking him playing would fix this. He's the king over the water. |
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Post by MisterD on Nov 24, 2018 14:41:09 GMT -5
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Post by calsufan on Nov 24, 2018 14:48:11 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 24, 2018 15:53:32 GMT -5
I really wish we would stop talking about Saul. Has anyone tried calling him? |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 24, 2018 16:11:35 GMT -5
Agreed. I think it's unfair when we don't know the situation. I'm sure he wants to be out there on the floor playing and, for whatever reason that we don't deserve to know, isn't. Or he doesn’t and that’s his prerogative. A bunch of people without information making insinuations isn’t fair. At this point, it is what it is. He's a returning starter that would be the best defensive player on a defensively starved team. Other than Kale mentioning that he's a DNP-coaches decision for the Temple and Lafayette games, there's very little to talk about. It's a natural question when talking about this team and it's deficiencies. |
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Post by blueandgold on Nov 24, 2018 21:43:39 GMT -5
I wish this board had disappearing ink for every time someone tries to type anything about Saul.
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Post by las71 on Nov 25, 2018 7:08:47 GMT -5
Not sure why discussing Saul is off base here. He played a lot of minutes last year and while he was inconsistent offensively, he was a tough defender and strong rebounder. Defense and rebounding are glaring weaknesses on this team. This is a La Salle basketball message board, why wouldn't we discuss his absence on here.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 25, 2018 7:28:13 GMT -5
Too many holes in the dike and not enough fingers to plug them. So pick one. I say stop the fouling. For whatever reason, we are just ridiculous. I mentioned the opponents making 11 more FT's a game in another post. We need to make adjustments and quick. If it means living and dying with a zone then so be it.
I looked at the boxscore in the Inky yesterday. I saw La Salle and Northwestern combined for 54 PF's and 70 FTA's. Then above that boxscore was Villanova and Okla. State, both of those teams combined for 28 PF's ( we had 29) and 26 FTA's (Both La Salle and NW had more than that). It's hard for me to believe we played that more of a physical game than the Nova-Okie State?
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Post by broderickpresident on Nov 25, 2018 7:32:26 GMT -5
Nova can do anything they want and never get called for fouls. The independent contractor refs know where their bread is buttered
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Post by jimmywhispers on Nov 25, 2018 9:19:20 GMT -5
As of 11/24, after the NW game, here are a few thoughts 1) we are getting better offensive looks than game 1, but we need to get better by creating more motion picks (where they D man gets lost) and we need to shoot from higher percentage spots on the floor- We are settling for top of the key and corner 3s when we should be shooting on the arc in the space in between, ideally in the sweet spot on the arc diagonal to the elbow 2) we are learning how to press but we are dedicating JK at the baseline and giving up way to many dunk flushes once the press is broken; guard traps have been good so would like that to continue but I’d rather see Jared as last man on press and Miles between him and the guards 3) we are giving the bonus and double bonus way too early giving opponents an easy way to score and build a lead; need to stop pointless backcourt fouls and focus on containing the man without reaching; containment will leads to TOs especially if there is constant guard pressure from inbound to mid court 4) shooting green lights need to be managed to good open looks for all; the shooting percentages and low quality shot selection (especially for Beatty and Carter) have been a disappointment The Fan Base |
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Post by 23won on Nov 25, 2018 9:38:13 GMT -5
As of 11/24, after the NW game, here are a few thoughts 1) we are getting better offensive looks than game 1, but we need to get better by creating more motion picks (where they D man gets lost) and we need to shoot from higher percentage spots on the floor- We are settling for top of the key and corner 3s when we should be shooting on the arc in the space in between, ideally in the sweet spot on the arc diagonal to the elbow 2) we are learning how to press but we are dedicating JK at the baseline and giving up way to many dunk flushes once the press is broken; guard traps have been good so would like that to continue but I’d rather see Jared as last man on press and Miles between him and the guards 3) we are giving the bonus and double bonus way too early giving opponents an easy way to score and build a lead; need to stop pointless backcourt fouls and focus on containing the man without reaching; containment will leads to TOs especially if there is constant guard pressure from inbound to mid court 4) shooting green lights need to be managed to good open looks for all; the shooting percentages and low quality shot selection (especially for Beatty and Carter) have been a disappointment The Fan Base We are ranked 309 in defensive efficiency out of 353 teams We are 258 in defensive efficiency Even with these stats we have a fan base that cares. JimmyWhiner doesn’t care now because “his guy” was not picked as the Coach. Can you imagine how this group (without Beatty and Mosely) would be ranked statistically now with a guy whose only interest in and experience with coaching arose when his child played AAU hoops? |
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Post by vital on Nov 25, 2018 21:05:26 GMT -5
I would change the philosophy of stopping opponents and focus on CONTAINMENT BASKETBALL....stopping is causing guys to overplay and leading to bad switches an rotation....containing keep guys in front and helps to read and react better..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 22:02:29 GMT -5
I would tell Carter he has to start shooting. He brings no offense and teams can play off of him because they know that he is afraid to shoot.
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