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Post by manayunk53 on Dec 16, 2015 9:09:02 GMT -5
Could you people just stop and wait for the school to make an announcement. I promise you the picture will be clearer then. Can you give us the first letter? Or how about filling in the R, S, T, L, N, and E's and letting us guess at the rest? All kidding aside, it would be cool if La Salle did have a positive announcement coming. We're definitely overdue for one...
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Post by MisterD on Dec 16, 2015 9:28:10 GMT -5
I'm sure the board would find a way to suck the joy out of it.
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Post by SICguy84 on Dec 16, 2015 17:03:21 GMT -5
No release because no longer have a communication director?
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 16, 2015 23:01:43 GMT -5
People are right. La Salle needs newer buildings for college students. New buildings will help the admissions office sell the school to hs seniors. A nursing home will not. What will the nursing home look like? It is look like the library or Hayman Hall? I am definitely not an expert on the economics behind it, however, from a high school student's perspective, nobody wants to live in the North dorms. I haven't even been on the interior but judging from the exterior going to basketball games with my father, they look awful. I understand that it's about the education not the facilities but if someone's going to take loans and put forth that much money to go to college, typically they're going to go to one with A1 facilities. As someone who lived in North Dorms you can shove it, I loved it. It's exactly what freshman year should be.
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Post by mookie on Dec 17, 2015 10:02:00 GMT -5
I am definitely not an expert on the economics behind it, however, from a high school student's perspective, nobody wants to live in the North dorms. I haven't even been on the interior but judging from the exterior going to basketball games with my father, they look awful. I understand that it's about the education not the facilities but if someone's going to take loans and put forth that much money to go to college, typically they're going to go to one with A1 facilities. As someone who lived in North Dorms you can shove it, I loved it. It's exactly what freshman year should be. Hahaha! I chose to live in North Dorms after spending a semester in Neumann. Not sure what Temple dorms are like but I remember their freshman dorms being atrocious and smaller than LaSalle's. I'm of the belief that freshmen shouldn't get "great" dorms. The quality of living should improve each year though. For example, the apartments, off campus apartments/houses and the townhouses. I will say though Basil is really nice...
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Post by SICguy84 on Dec 17, 2015 10:29:58 GMT -5
The "enrollment levels are down substantially" part combined with the "La Salle is doing less to attract students compared to other regional competition" and the "there's less high schoolers going to college and/or looking at expensive private options" part should be more important than a nursing home, because we're getting run out of the water by our competition. And that isn't just a basketball conversation -- we're losing traction in the regional university hierarchy, and if you think otherwise you're crazy. I feel like the University was more competitive for acceptance, more respected and influential in the Delaware Valley 20-25+ years ago (and beyond back into the decades). Now is that true or just the product of my nostalgic and possibly warped brain?
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 17, 2015 11:41:39 GMT -5
10-13 years ago, when I was there, LaSalle seemed to be booming, along with all the other private schools. However, the economy was different, and with tuition and room and board, the price tag was still around $30,000 a year.
Those dynamics changed after 2009. The economy went into the shitter, student loan debt grew at a viral amount, and now, we have alot of grandparents/senior citizens paying loans they co-signed for their unemployed/under employed grandkids...it's a different ball game now.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 17, 2015 11:47:08 GMT -5
I feel like the University was more competitive for acceptance, more respected and influential in the Delaware Valley 20-25+ years ago (and beyond back into the decades). Now is that true or just the product of my nostalgic and possibly warped brain? I'm of the same belief, but I'm sure we're being somewhat hypercritical. That being said, university stature is 'what have you done lately', not look at how good our basketball team was 15 years ago. It's what have you built lately, not 'look at our nostalgic Student Union building, it's soooooooo rich in history.' And it's not due to any action by La Salle's part, but more-so inaction and content. When you've got other regional universities 'reinventing' themselves at a blistering pace and you're being nostalgic, bathing in history of decades past, you're going to fall behind fast. Kids these days are quick, they're part of global society that can tweet breaking news across the world in moments, and they're looking for a university that be just as sleek, sharp, and fast. They went tech-savvy, they want progressive, they want new ideas, and they want it as quick as the world of Twitter and Facebook provides them everything else -- and these are all words I would never use to describe La Salle. In sociology, there's a theory that revolves around perceived perception of luxury in relation to Starbucks coffee shops. I'm sure you might see where I'm going here, but can you guess who's the last university in Philadelphia to get a Starbucks? La Salle. I mean, Penn and Drexel had 4 or 5 Starbucks each before La Salle had one! So... Starbucks, in words of someone much wiser than myself, is a brand of distinction and individual expression despite all the 'grande-venti carmel skinny hot frap with light foam' crap. And you know what, our prospective students notice stupid stuff like this... I'm not saying Starbucks is the barometer for university success, but it's a damn good example of ways that La Salle's timid progressiveness is putting us at disadvantage when it comes to recruitment. Our target recruitment population is probably small enough as it is without making decisions based on a viewpoint heavily jaded by decades of mostly irrelevant history and precedence.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 17, 2015 11:51:10 GMT -5
I feel like the University was more competitive for acceptance, more respected and influential in the Delaware Valley 20-25+ years ago (and beyond back into the decades). Now is that true or just the product of my nostalgic and possibly warped brain? I'm of the same belief, but I'm sure we're being somewhat hypercritical. That being said, university stature is 'what have you done lately', not look at how good our basketball team was 15 years ago. It's what have you built lately, not 'look at our nostalgic Student Union building, it's soooooooo rich in history.' And it's not due to any action by La Salle's part, but more-so inaction and content. When you've got other regional universities 'reinventing' themselves at a blistering pace and you're being nostalgic, bathing in history of decades past, you're going to fall behind fast. Kids these days are quick, they're part of global society that can tweet breaking news across the world in moments, and they're looking for a university that be just as sleek, sharp, and fast. They went tech-savvy, they want progressive, they want new ideas, and they want it as quick as the world of Twitter and Facebook provides them everything else -- and these are all words I would never use to describe La Salle. In sociology, there's a theory that revolves around perceived perception of luxury in relation to Starbucks coffee shops. I'm sure you might see where I'm going here, but can you guess who's the last university in Philadelphia to get a Starbucks? La Salle. I mean, Penn and Drexel had 4 or 5 Starbucks each before La Salle had one! So... Starbucks, in words of someone much wiser than myself, is a brand of distinction and individual expression despite all the 'grande-venti carmel skinny hot frap with light foam' crap. And you know what, our prospective students notice stupid stuff like this... I'm not saying Starbucks is the barometer for university success, but it's a damn good example of ways that La Salle's timid progressiveness is putting us at disadvantage when it comes to recruitment. Our target recruitment population is probably small enough as it is without making decisions based on a viewpoint heavily jaded by decades of mostly irrelevant history and precedence. We had a Starbucks back in 2002, but then a bunch of students protested because of a coffee fair trade agreement, and out of response, we switched to the Bucks County Coffee Company. I believe the Collegian did a story on this.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 17, 2015 11:59:55 GMT -5
Kudos - wasn't aware, and neither were prospective students as Starbuck's blossomed, I'm sure. Point remains the same though, La Salle seems too reactionary to many new trends or ideas in the collegiate world (at least from my perception) rather than proactive. I get the vibe we're usually slightly behind the curve.
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Post by rp01 on Dec 17, 2015 13:45:16 GMT -5
10-13 years ago, when I was there, LaSalle seemed to be booming, along with all the other private schools. However, the economy was different, and with tuition and room and board, the price tag was still around $30,000 a year. Those dynamics changed after 2009. The economy went into the shitter, student loan debt grew at a viral amount, and now, we have alot of grandparents/senior citizens paying loans they co-signed for their unemployed/under employed grandkids...it's a different ball game now. If public college was ever made free or even further reduced like a small amount of presidential candidates proposed, that would essentially be the end of La Salle, Saint Joes, and any other small private college with the exception of Ivy League schools and the top private schools in the country.
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 17, 2015 14:55:37 GMT -5
10-13 years ago, when I was there, LaSalle seemed to be booming, along with all the other private schools. However, the economy was different, and with tuition and room and board, the price tag was still around $30,000 a year. Those dynamics changed after 2009. The economy went into the shitter, student loan debt grew at a viral amount, and now, we have alot of grandparents/senior citizens paying loans they co-signed for their unemployed/under employed grandkids...it's a different ball game now. If public college was ever made free or even further reduced like a small amount of presidential candidates proposed, that would essentially be the end of La Salle, Saint Joes, and any other small private college with the exception of Ivy League schools and the top private schools in the country. Even the guy proposing that (who I'm a big fan of) doesn't actually expect that to realistically happen. It's about getting a discussion going about the absurdly high cost of a college education, of which La Salle is certainly not exempt from.
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Post by mookie on Dec 17, 2015 15:26:41 GMT -5
Kudos - wasn't aware, and neither were prospective students as Starbuck's blossomed, I'm sure. Point remains the same though, La Salle seems too reactionary to many new trends or ideas in the collegiate world (at least from my perception) rather than proactive. I get the vibe we're usually slightly behind the curve. Only slightly
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Post by rp01 on Dec 18, 2015 1:04:55 GMT -5
If public college was ever made free or even further reduced like a small amount of presidential candidates proposed, that would essentially be the end of La Salle, Saint Joes, and any other small private college with the exception of Ivy League schools and the top private schools in the country. Even the guy proposing that (who I'm a big fan of) doesn't actually expect that to realistically happen. It's about getting a discussion going about the absurdly high cost of a college education, of which La Salle is certainly not exempt from. I agree. Realistically, cheaper public college could happen. For example the cost to go to Temple could be reduced from 31 to somewhere in the low 20s. I think all colleges should reduce their tuition a bit and not give out scholarships to everyone.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 18, 2015 8:39:04 GMT -5
Even the guy proposing that (who I'm a big fan of) doesn't actually expect that to realistically happen. It's about getting a discussion going about the absurdly high cost of a college education, of which La Salle is certainly not exempt from. I agree. Realistically, cheaper public college could happen. For example the cost to go to Temple could be reduced from 31 to somewhere in the low 20s. I think all colleges should reduce their tuition a bit and not give out scholarships to everyone. Temple In-State Tuition & Fees: $15,188.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 18, 2015 12:11:49 GMT -5
Wait til you see the cost of private Nursing home care. Going through that with a parent and aunt. $50k+ a year.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 18, 2015 12:15:15 GMT -5
I agree. Realistically, cheaper public college could happen. For example the cost to go to Temple could be reduced from 31 to somewhere in the low 20s. I think all colleges should reduce their tuition a bit and not give out scholarships to everyone. Temple In-State Tuition & Fees: $15,188. So how much is the state kicking in right now? I bet it's more than 100%, Someone mentioned a while back that Rutgers is going for more out-of-state students so they get that rate. Publics looking for more revenue too.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 18, 2015 12:47:35 GMT -5
Wait til you see the cost of private Nursing home care. Going through that with a parent and aunt. $50k+ a year. Two in daycare isn't quite that bad, but its in the same arena. Brutal.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 18, 2015 14:21:12 GMT -5
Wait til you see the cost of private Nursing home care. Going through that with a parent and aunt. $50k+ a year. Two in daycare isn't quite that bad, but its in the same arena. Brutal. $160 a week, it's robbery...another one on the way in July, I'm sweating bullets on child care.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 18, 2015 15:07:59 GMT -5
Two in daycare isn't quite that bad, but its in the same arena. Brutal. $160 a week, it's robbery...another one on the way in July, I'm sweating bullets on child care. I'd kill to pay 160$ a week.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 18, 2015 15:29:54 GMT -5
Move to South Jersey...but that's almost $700 a month, and my daughter is in an autism program half of the day, so it's not like she's there all day.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 18, 2015 15:32:31 GMT -5
Move to South Jersey...but that's almost $700 a month, and my daughter is in an autism program half of the day, so it's not like she's there all day. 700 < 1200. But I'm not moving to South Jersey.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 18, 2015 16:16:02 GMT -5
Move to South Jersey...but that's almost $700 a month, and my daughter is in an autism program half of the day, so it's not like she's there all day. 700 < 1200. But I'm not moving to South Jersey. Never. Having. Kids. Do you guys have to ration food supplies?! Pshwwwww.
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Post by rp01 on Dec 18, 2015 16:27:20 GMT -5
I agree. Realistically, cheaper public college could happen. For example the cost to go to Temple could be reduced from 31 to somewhere in the low 20s. I think all colleges should reduce their tuition a bit and not give out scholarships to everyone. Temple In-State Tuition & Fees: $15,188. I meant the total cost to go to Temple, which I think equates somewhere in the high 20's or low 30's when you include room and board, meal plans, and tuition. That being said, Temple was a bad example because a huge portion of their students probably commute and live in state. The total cost to go to the average public college with out of state tuition, dorms, and food is probably around 30 a year.
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Post by rp01 on Dec 18, 2015 16:28:08 GMT -5
Wait til you see the cost of private Nursing home care. Going through that with a parent and aunt. $50k+ a year. Isn't the building simply a brothers' residence being paid for by the christian brothers?
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Post by durenduren on Dec 18, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -5
Wait til you see the cost of private Nursing home care. Going through that with a parent and aunt. $50k+ a year. Isn't the building simply a brothers' residence being paid for by the christian brothers? In comparison to your college tuition argument. His comment had nothing to do with the 'secret building'.
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Post by rp01 on Dec 18, 2015 16:48:57 GMT -5
I misunderstood him...
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Post by westcoast on Dec 18, 2015 20:11:58 GMT -5
What was tuition and room& board in 1960? I seem to reme,ber a figure of $700.00 for tuition , I think it broke down to $350. - semester. I cannot even guess what we paid for R&B
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Post by MisterD on Dec 18, 2015 20:21:43 GMT -5
700 < 1200. But I'm not moving to South Jersey. Add those together. Then add the $1,200 in again. I "win". (Also not moving to South Jersey. The only way I can handle living in any Jersey is proximity to the city.)
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 18, 2015 20:52:36 GMT -5
I'm only a half hour from the city Mr. D... I'm taking you, I grew up here, lived in the city for 7 years and moved back across the river... it's not a bad spot to raise a family.
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