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Post by 1stflooredwards on May 7, 2015 21:32:56 GMT -5
No it wasn't Explorerman who originally brought up that nonsense.
From the 02/25/2015 Fordham game thread (page 6):
"From what I heard, the wheels for Shuler already are in motion.. Unless something changes between now and the end of March there is movement that is going to happen.. G can only blame himself.."
Now in the interest of full disclosure, Joe posted just before that he "wouldn't be surprised if Johnnie transferred" but it was EM who did say "the wheels were in motion".
Read more: explorertown.proboards.com/thread/1645/game-thread-fordham-25-7pm?page=6#ixzz3ZVghzP00 In the words of the great Bobby Heenan, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
Sorry a10.
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Post by jellybean on May 8, 2015 6:00:37 GMT -5
I couldn't find the business school thread...perhaps there isn't one. Anyway I will be getting an update on Friday at a conference of where the school stands with funding and their progress with the business school. I have heard that PriceWaterHouseCoopers has made a large donation to the business program. One of the banquet/conference rooms will be named after PWC. FYI the fitness center has not been started yet. Three of the homes still remain next to the B&G parking lot. Hopefully will get an update on that as well. I don't know how or if you can ask about (a) the Armory property/plans and (b) the proposed "bubble" that was to go up by the Softball field?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 8, 2015 7:31:25 GMT -5
No it wasn't Explorerman who originally brought up that nonsense.
From the 02/25/2015 Fordham game thread (page 6):
"From what I heard, the wheels for Shuler already are in motion.. Unless something changes between now and the end of March there is movement that is going to happen.. G can only blame himself.."
Now in the interest of full disclosure, Joe posted just before that he "wouldn't be surprised if Johnnie transferred" but it was EM who did say "the wheels were in motion".
I posted this: They're really missing out on Shuler. Kid was under recruited and I think he might split.It was in passing, nothing hard and just my feelings on the matter. Very different than what you bolded above. My statement was based upon his body language and my observations, nothing more.
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Post by a10champion15 on May 8, 2015 7:42:48 GMT -5
No it wasn't Explorerman who originally brought up that nonsense.
From the 02/25/2015 Fordham game thread (page 6):
"From what I heard, the wheels for Shuler already are in motion.. Unless something changes between now and the end of March there is movement that is going to happen.. G can only blame himself.."
Now in the interest of full disclosure, Joe posted just before that he "wouldn't be surprised if Johnnie transferred" but it was EM who did say "the wheels were in motion".
Read more: explorertown.proboards.com/thread/1645/game-thread-fordham-25-7pm?page=6#ixzz3ZVghzP00 In the words of the great Bobby Heenan, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
Sorry a10. No big deal...I saw Kovy said it later in that thread. Oh well. Shuler is here to stay and sometimes posters are wrong. I have believed a few things to be true that turned out to be wrong. Jellybean I'll see what I can do. Not sure how many people are attending and how many questions I can get answered.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 9, 2015 11:20:57 GMT -5
Attended a meeting a couple weeks ago. Been meaning to post what I heard. Nothing earth shattering just a couple good updates on things.
I'll post it later on today after work.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 10, 2015 9:17:53 GMT -5
Okay so I attended a meeting a week or so ago where a number of the academic staff were present including the dean of the business school.
Some pretty exciting stuff going on with the business school and program. The business scholars and BS/MBA program have DOUBLED in size in the past 2 years. The number of business applicants has increased by almost 20% while the overall enrollment in the school has slightly declined. The business school was just reaccredited as well. Also, La Salle business alumni are the the highest earning out of all the Philadelphia schools with the exception of Penn.
So in terms of the business school. The building is about 40% complete. The school should be weather proof meaning outside walls and roof complete in couple months if that. They have begun working inside laying out the rooms as well. The better news is the funding. There were a number of large donations in the past few months by one company specifically, PriceWaterhouseCoopers. I don't know the specifics of how large the donation was but what they did tell us is much of the building has already been financed and they are in a secure place going forward with other projects. PricewaterhouseCoopers donated enough that the second largest room in the building will be named after the firm. A few tidbits I learned about the building is it is completely wireless, absolutely no cables and the floors are heated. There will be a conference room that will overlook the city. One thing they did stress is how many places there are to relax I believe 13 large spaces unlike the college hall which is 1 maybe 2.
College Hall will remain but will become more of an administration building. Still to be determined what the exact use is.
The fitness center has been delayed due to the inability to lock up two homes that remain on Chew. They were able to get the third one a few months ago. As soon as the houses are settled they will construct a parking lot and begin construction. I asked if there was funding issues and he told me the project already has funding in place and if anything they are going to be investing more money into the fitness center as opposed to just 4 million originally proposed. They don't want to half ass the project due to it's centered location.
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Post by jellybean on Jun 10, 2015 9:27:05 GMT -5
Thank you for the update. Glad to hear a lot of good things.
Question on the business school alumni earnings? Where is Penn?
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 10, 2015 10:29:18 GMT -5
Thank you for the update. Glad to hear a lot of good things. Question on the business school alumni earnings? Where is Penn? I had to take out the report. I was wrong. I was positive they said all Philadelphia schools but it is La Salle graduates have the highest economic outlook out of all Philadelphia schools with the exception of Penn. #2 in the city #11 in the state.
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Post by goexplorers on Jun 10, 2015 12:41:06 GMT -5
No meaningful discussion on the hoops arena front in this meeting?
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Post by calsufan on Jun 10, 2015 13:45:24 GMT -5
Will there be stands behind the basket?
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Post by explorer88 on Jun 10, 2015 15:02:01 GMT -5
Will there be more than one concession stand?
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 10, 2015 22:01:15 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't know where to put it.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Jun 11, 2015 6:45:03 GMT -5
Will there be stands behind the basket? I will trot out my old "stands behind the basket" solution. Place two rows of temporary removable seating (chairs) behind the baskets. Then set up an elaborate complex of mirrors reflecting to each other based on input from the physics/design/mathematics, etc departments. The end result is the complex mirror system making it appear as though there are numerous rows of seating behind the baskets which are filled to capacity. (also put about 30 or so fanatical fans in each of the two rows of actual chairs to make it look like these hundreds of fans are going crazy). Btw, never let recruits see this charade. They must only see it on televised games with strategically placed cameras set up as to not expose the con.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 11, 2015 7:26:25 GMT -5
I think we need huge banners behind the backboards that read:
"YOUR SHOOTING WILL GO COLD IF YOU AIN'T BLUEBERRY AND GOLD"
That would be a very good mental game to play against our opponents.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 15, 2015 17:03:31 GMT -5
The Business School looks great. Imposing structure as you drive towards campus.
Wister Court is the new off-campus housing facility on Wister and Clarkson. Two large buildings. It appears that one has residents and small work still to be done. The other one I don't know about because I didn't walk down the street.
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Post by Xwalkonx on Nov 15, 2015 17:04:16 GMT -5
The least they could do is put some damn backs on the seats !!!!!! The bleachers are a JOKE.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 15, 2015 18:11:30 GMT -5
The Business School looks great. Imposing structure as you drive towards campus. Wister Court is the new off-campus housing facility on Wister and Clarkson. Two large buildings. It appears that one has residents and small work still to be done. The other one I don't know about because I didn't walk down the street. I used to get drunk there.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 15, 2015 18:47:35 GMT -5
The Business School looks great. Imposing structure as you drive towards campus. Wister Court is the new off-campus housing facility on Wister and Clarkson. Two large buildings. It appears that one has residents and small work still to be done. The other one I don't know about because I didn't walk down the street. I used to get drunk there. Since all three buildings are new construction are you referring something else?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 15, 2015 20:21:56 GMT -5
I used to get drunk there. Since all three buildings are new construction are you referring something else? I used to get drunk at a residence at the corner of Wister and Clarkson, so no.
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Post by stlexplorer on Nov 15, 2015 20:49:15 GMT -5
Since all three buildings are new construction are you referring something else? I used to get drunk at a residence at the corner of Wister and Clarkson, so no. The building that we would have been disgusted to be in during the day but excited to be there at night. Oh, college
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 15, 2015 22:01:35 GMT -5
If those students even knew the things that went on on that plot of land.....god help them.
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Post by durenduren on Jan 26, 2016 13:53:37 GMT -5
The fitness center has been delayed due to the inability to lock up two homes that remain on Chew. They were able to get the third one a few months ago. As soon as the houses are settled they will construct a parking lot and begin construction. I asked if there was funding issues and he told me the project already has funding in place and if anything they are going to be investing more money into the fitness center as opposed to just 4 million originally proposed. They don't want to half ass the project due to it's centered location. Okay, I really dug this stuff up from the archives, so please don't outcast me -- God knows we love to talk about buildings, but I had to ask... Now that the new business school has opened, where are we at with the fitness center? Anyone have anything? Hearing other rumors, but haven't heard squat on the fitness center so I'm hoping this isn't dead or the funding has been lost/re-allocated. Last time I saw, there was no movement on any aspects of it, still.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 26, 2016 13:57:09 GMT -5
Explain this to me like I'm a complete idiot who is too lazy to read up-thread to see if its come up, perhaps even by me personally: Why wouldn't there be a new arena with the old one converted into a fitness center?
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Post by SICguy84 on Jan 26, 2016 14:01:44 GMT -5
The Baltimore based architects who did the new business building supposedly put together a strategic facilities plan for the campus. Fitness Center? New Arena? who knows?
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Post by calsufan on Jan 26, 2016 14:32:52 GMT -5
Explain this to me like I'm a complete idiot who is too lazy to read up-thread to see if its come up, perhaps even by me personally: Why wouldn't there be a new arena with the old one converted into a fitness center? Because our chances of getting a new arena in the next 5 to 8 years is somewhere between slim and none? With the financial shape the university is in, I see very little chance of them committing to a new arena anytime soon. Great idea as far as converting Hayman, but the arena is not going to happen.
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 26, 2016 14:48:20 GMT -5
I have to agree here.
Fact is I don't think that sustainable year over year success of this sport has been the goal at the top. It's ridiculously expensive to compete that way and profitability and not bankrupting the school handcuff the ability to compete in education, technology and high competition athletics. I agree with that priority being put over the success of a school sport. In fact it is one of the main reasons that I root for La Salle so much. We are the consummate underdog and our achievements over the past few years haven't come by abandoning morals. The goal is to stay competitive in a high competition conference resulting in a good year or two out of five while not putting the school at financial risk. While I would accept that explanation of priorities, we all understandably want both. I was all for the new business building coming before an arena. Getting the sons and daughters of local business people into the school will help increase tuition and hopefully endowment in the future. That way it will be easier to build something the right way next time. I want to see the team play in a legit arena but we need the students to fill it which means we needed to expand elsewhere, increase enrollment and improve the campus / culture.
Here's the thing, the explorers didn't even have a court to call their own until 17 years ago my first year on campus. The fact that it is on campus was a huge upgrade and there are philly schools with HUGE endowments who still don't have a court of their own . They need to prioritize quality of education and creation of a competitive product over success in sports right now. While sports help in marketing, it's education, culture and opportunity that should be the factors for parents and students choosing one school over another. That said you have to expect that when financing the gola project they expected that investment to pay off over a period of 25 years minimum and probably 30. It was not done right at that time and did not take into account the changes that would occur in switching conferences. Now they are in a better spot to build but it still shouldn't be expected in the next 5-8 years is my assumption. (wrote that before reading it mentioned above so totally agree)
I debate college athletics with my brother in law who is a dean of a history department in a private school in Germany where there are no college athletics. His opinion is that it is the bane of our college educational system and only acts as an educational parasite. I try to offer rebuttals but it makes a ton of sense when you see the budgets and consider the purpose of school vs. sports. There really isn't much common sense in the level of spending between coaches, facilities and additional events when you consider the end goal of attending college. While I want the arena soon, I am happy that the schools decisions have been true to it's original mission statement. I'm also glad I live here and have a good way to stay connected to the school after graduating.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 26, 2016 15:00:59 GMT -5
If there's no precedent showing you can spend money (on a high profile athletic program) to make money (university overall), I would find it hard to disagree. I just ... I don't know. You mention culture ... a sustainable program could only help. You mention marketing ... I'd love to know our current budget and how that could be repurposed. There would obviously be a real cost, but I'm sure there are studies showing quantifiable gains, and that's beyond knowing its $1.5MM (and rising) for every tourney game it leads to.
(And the point about Germany seems obviously correct, but La Salle isn't going to advance themselves in present day America following that model. So its correct, but not realistically applicable.)
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Post by durenduren on Jan 26, 2016 15:02:55 GMT -5
Explain this to me like I'm a complete idiot who is too lazy to read up-thread to see if its come up, perhaps even by me personally: Why wouldn't there be a new arena with the old one converted into a fitness center? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought the announced fitness center was supposed to be a ground-up new build. Did that change when the plan was postponed? Fitness Center? New Arena? who knows? From what I'm hearing the "who knows" portion was warmer than the first two.
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 26, 2016 15:21:17 GMT -5
If there's no precedent showing you can spend money (on a high profile athletic program) to make money (university overall), I would find it hard to disagree. I just ... I don't know. You mention culture ... a sustainable program could only help. You mention marketing ... I'd love to know our current budget and how that could be repurposed. There would obviously be a real cost, but I'm sure there are studies showing quantifiable gains, and that's beyond knowing its $1.5MM (and rising) for every tourney game it leads to. (And the point about Germany seems obviously correct, but La Salle isn't going to advance themselves in present day America following that model. So its correct, but not realistically applicable.) I mean it's hard to compete to get to the level that a sport is profitable. At our level it would take sustained success and an increase in on campus enrollment to get the proverbial flywheel moving. Regarding marketing, I'm referring to the self perpetuating marketing provided by a successful program both nationwide and in the local media. It was a shame FGCU did what they did the same year we made the sweet 16. I think that stole our thunder nationally. Still in philly we were still the cinderella story for our market. Betting on the tourney units is a risky endeavor and we were lucky many times over to have gotten what we did. Even to get into the play in game. While that 1.5 is in no way chump change Towson spent $68 million on SECU arena to keep that in comparison.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 26, 2016 15:21:31 GMT -5
I have to agree here. Fact is I don't think that sustainable year over year success of this sport has been the goal at the top. It's ridiculously expensive to compete that way and profitability and not bankrupting the school handcuff the ability to compete in education, technology and high competition athletics. I agree with that priority being put over the success of a school sport. In fact it is one of the main reasons that I root for La Salle so much. We are the consummate underdog and our achievements over the past few years haven't come by abandoning morals. The goal is to stay competitive in a high competition conference resulting in a good year or two out of five while not putting the school at financial risk. While I would accept that explanation of priorities, we all understandably want both. I was all for the new business building coming before an arena. Getting the sons and daughters of local business people into the school will help increase tuition and hopefully endowment in the future. That way it will be easier to build something the right way next time. I want to see the team play in a legit arena but we need the students to fill it which means we needed to expand elsewhere, increase enrollment and improve the campus / culture. Here's the thing, the explorers didn't even have a court to call their own until 17 years ago my first year on campus. The fact that it is on campus was a huge upgrade and there are philly schools with HUGE endowments who still don't have a court of their own . They need to prioritize quality of education and creation of a competitive product over success in sports right now. While sports help in marketing, it's education, culture and opportunity that should be the factors for parents and students choosing one school over another. That said you have to expect that when financing the gola project they expected that investment to pay off over a period of 25 years minimum and probably 30. It was not done right at that time and did not take into account the changes that would occur in switching conferences. Now they are in a better spot to build but it still shouldn't be expected in the next 5-8 years is my assumption. (wrote that before reading it mentioned above so totally agree) I debate college athletics with my brother in law who is a dean of a history department in a private school in Germany where there are no college athletics. His opinion is that it is the bane of our college educational system and only acts as an educational parasite. I try to offer rebuttals but it makes a ton of sense when you see the budgets and consider the purpose of school vs. sports. There really isn't much common sense in the level of spending between coaches, facilities and additional events when you consider the end goal of attending college. While I want the arena soon, I am happy that the schools decisions have been true to it's original mission statement. I'm also glad I live here and have a good way to stay connected to the school after graduating. I disagree with you Cal. I think a new basketball arena has to be Priority #1, like 3 priorities above everything else. See Muskateers, Xavier, and look at the revenue that their basketball program generates, and how that revenue has been growing since Cintas was built. Build the damn arena come hell or high water. The funding drive should've started 3 years ago, like 89 said.
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