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Post by explorer88 on Feb 20, 2015 9:53:44 GMT -5
This is crazy and very sobering. NJIT is spending $100 million on a new athletic center and they don't even have a conference affiliation yet and have been searching for to enter one. The arena is only 3,500 seats. For that price tag I don't understand it. Goes to show these schools are playing for keeps while La Salle remains at a snail's pace in trying to get one. NJIT Athletic Facility |
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 10:29:41 GMT -5
Arena eating for 3,500… That building is def going to be multi-use because the building looks impressive and huge
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 20, 2015 11:03:31 GMT -5
Sounds eerily similar to another facility we know and love, including the date of construction.
“Our current facility was built in 1967,” N.J.I.T.’s president, Joel Bloom, said. “It’s subpar to just about any high school facility you’ll find in the area.”
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 20, 2015 11:21:33 GMT -5
"NJIT Wastes A Lot Of Money" is how I read this.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 20, 2015 11:29:27 GMT -5
"NJIT Wastes A Lot Of Money" is how I read this. Michigan disagrees. |
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Post by calsufan on Feb 20, 2015 11:38:17 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat.
And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 12:02:47 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat. And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Yeah the arena will not be coming for probably several years now.. The BOT did not see the arena as a priority when our financial condition dictated a decision to be made (this has been well discussed before over the last couple years).. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 20, 2015 12:39:03 GMT -5
As I understand it, the A10 has put pressure on our university to demonstrate a commitment to facilities. If the school determines that we're better off with a different conference affiliation I will delete my account on this board and can guarantee you I will stop the recurring donations and don't think I will be alone in either circumstance. Fact is, there is a sizable donation already committed to the Arena. I understand (and support) the prioritization of the business school before the arena, but that's the last reason I will accept.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 20, 2015 12:46:57 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat. And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Yeah the arena will not be coming for probably several years now.. The BOT did not see the arena as a priority when our financial condition dictated a decision to be made (this has been well discussed before over the last couple years).. I believe the A-10 is going to force La Salle's hand. That is the rumblings. |
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 12:54:33 GMT -5
As I understand it, the A10 has put pressure on our university to demonstrate a commitment to facilities. If the school determines that we're better off with a different conference affiliation I will delete my account on this board and can guarantee you I will stop the recurring donations and don't think I will be alone in either circumstance. Fact is, there is a sizable donation already committed to the Arena. I understand (and support) the prioritization of the business school before the arena, but that's the last reason I will accept. This is true.. It happened a couple years ago And I absolutely agree with this also regarding conferences, I would end all affiliations with the University no questions asked.. |
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Post by coachd on Feb 20, 2015 12:55:31 GMT -5
We really don't have a choice... commit to a new arena or get out of division 1.
I don't think we can wait for the Business School. We need to start groundbreaking by 2018. Earmark your donations to the "new arena fund" so the BOT and new President gets the message loud and clear.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 12:58:55 GMT -5
Yeah the arena will not be coming for probably several years now.. The BOT did not see the arena as a priority when our financial condition dictated a decision to be made (this has been well discussed before over the last couple years).. I believe the A-10 is going to force La Salle's hand. That is the rumblings. I will second Exp88.. And this is the most recent, I will let everyone put together the pieces on the timeline.. It isn't that difficult |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 20, 2015 13:28:19 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat. And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. 4ever left LaSalle University and LaSalle High School $10 million a piece when he passed away, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think the money towards the University was to be used for the basketball program only. I know $10 million doesn't pay for an arena, but it's a nice chunk. |
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 20, 2015 13:33:20 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat. And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. 4ever left LaSalle University and LaSalle High School $10 million a piece when he passed away, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think the money towards the University was to be used for the basketball program only. I know $10 million doesn't pay for an arena, but it's a nice chunk. Plus the word is La Salle receives none of the money if they don't raise a certain percentage. 4ever wanted to make sure La Salle worked for the money. |
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Post by calsufan on Feb 20, 2015 13:36:04 GMT -5
My guess is absolutely nothing happens with facilities for at least 2 years (and more likely, longer). I can't get too excited or upset about not having a facility because unless another big donor comes along or their financial condition improves. nothing will change. I also think as I believe 23won said in another post, attendance will have to improve before the school will spring for a 4,000 to 6,000 seat, brand spanking new arena. Work on filling the joint and bring pressure to bear on the admin with the proof of butts in the seat. And believe me, this is all said by a person who would very badly like to see a legitimate arena. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. 4ever left LaSalle University and LaSalle High School $10 million a piece when he passed away, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think the money towards the University was to be used for the basketball program only. I know $10 million doesn't pay for an arena, but it's a nice chunk. I knew there was some money already donated, didn't know it was 4ever. I thought I read somewhere on here that there was already $20M in donations for a new arena. Did I read that in a thread a few weeks back or was that just wishful thinking on my part? We'd still have at least $30M to go. |
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Post by lasalle89 on Feb 20, 2015 13:43:20 GMT -5
10 million is a nice starting point. Build a 4500 seat facility with some boxes. Doesn't have to be elaborate. Do it right this time. Have all the athletic offices in there and an impressive office for the head coach. Have some bells and whistles to impress recruits. Reception are for loyal alums. I liked going to the Explorers club at the civic center. LaSalle should be working on a sponser for the name of the facility NOW.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 20, 2015 13:49:25 GMT -5
LaSalle should be working on a sponser for the name of the facility NOW. Tom Gola Court at the WaWa Arena has a nice ring to it. I would not make it multipurpose. If you don't have to build on the same land as Hayman, then Hayman should be for everything else while the new one should be just basketball games. If you want to have a basketball-centric practice facility / weight room in there as well, great, but basketball should have this one. And this from a former non-basketball athlete. |
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 14:03:40 GMT -5
4ever left LaSalle University and LaSalle High School $10 million a piece when he passed away, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think the money towards the University was to be used for the basketball program only. I know $10 million doesn't pay for an arena, but it's a nice chunk. Plus the word is La Salle receives none of the money if they don't raise a certain percentage. 4ever wanted to make sure La Salle worked for the money. Seconded again... |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 20, 2015 14:11:13 GMT -5
I remember 4ever telling me this a few years ago...My man was a true LaSallian, a multi-millionaire, yet down to earth, unassuming, and he never threw the fact that he had money in your face. We ate breakfast at Perkins for pete's sake. He invited me to the Final Four free of charge...The Final friggin Four! I tear up to this day thinking about what an awesome man that guy was...
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 20, 2015 14:17:37 GMT -5
"NJIT Wastes A Lot Of Money" is how I read this. Michigan disagrees. That was a NJIT home game in their dazzling new arena? That was a fluke win over a BCS team that had a very off night. NJIT is throwing $100 million to build an arena so they can get into either the NEC, America East or MEAC. (The MAAC is all private schools.) How is that worth a cent? They're throwing $100 million at the dream of building a facility that will get their program over the top into a play-in game. My dad went to NJIT. They're trying to do what they can to get more residential student, most of whom are completely petrified of living in Newark and think they're better off commuting. It's also a state school, so they have more money to play with. I get the desire for a new arena. But let's not get into a "compete with the Joneses" battle with NJIT. We've also head threads in the past here about the new arenas built at basketball powers Quinnipiac and Monmouth. I'm just of the argument that, yes, it's a nice thing to have and good for the long-term success of the program. But I'm also of the thought that if we get a new arena with baskets behind the hoops and everything, we'll stay the same exact program we've been the past 10 years or so -- a decent mid-major in a good conference capable of post-season play. It's not the game-changer we assume it will be. |
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Post by calidelphia on Feb 20, 2015 14:20:31 GMT -5
Too bad La Salle's Alum and once CEO of Tastykake sold to flower foods. I think they may have been a great partner to put us over the edge on funding. The proximity on huntington ave would have been perfect for the community as well. With that in mind, who better to make a large contribution than Larry Miller. Air Jordan Arena would certainly get some buzz.
I believe that should we go the sponsorship route, we would be looking for a brand shares the catholic ideals as part of their as well, so that may narrow the funnel.
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Post by talkinbball on Feb 20, 2015 14:26:13 GMT -5
La Salle's version of insanity...continue to think we can be a consistently good program without a new facility.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 20, 2015 15:11:45 GMT -5
Too bad La Salle's Alum and once CEO of Tastykake sold to flower foods. I think they may have been a great partner to put us over the edge on funding. The proximity on huntington ave would have been perfect for the community as well. With that in mind, who better to make a large contribution than Larry Miller. Air Jordan Arena would certainly get some buzz. I believe that should we go the sponsorship route, we would be looking for a brand shares the catholic ideals as part of their as well, so that may narrow the funnel. I don't even where I want to start with this.. So many different ways... None of them good..Cali, are you trolling? |
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 20, 2015 15:14:47 GMT -5
Haha easy pizzi.
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Post by manayunk53 on Feb 20, 2015 16:12:22 GMT -5
A few others have already hit on this, but I feel like I need to say it anyway. It would be awesome to watch La Salle games in a better gym, but the only thing worse than the TGA is the attendance. I can't imagine throwing millions and millions of dollars at a new building when nobody really cares. Look at the attendance lately. The team is playing well, and the turnout continues to be terrible. There are lots of excuses - it's cold out, the gym sucks, the team is mediocre, etc. This is a winter sport - it's always going to be cold out, and lots of the games are always going to be played over winter break when not many students are on campus.
It's really pathetic. And it's a shame, because those of us who care (a.k.a. the people on this board and a couple hundred of our friends) really are good fans. But there aren't enough of us. As a fan base, we do not deserve a shiny new arena. What we deserve is to watch some pretty damn good games in the same high school gym that we fill about half-way most of the time.
Sure, a new arena would get people interested for a while. And it would help us get recruits. But the way I see it, we're already doing pretty decent with attracting solid players to our school. At this point, a gym full of crazy fans every night would help attract recruits even more than a brand new gym would.
I think the best course of action is to re-do the TGA. Change the direction of the court from N-S to E-W. Put in new seats and fix the bathroom and concession areas. Spend a couple million dollars on this before the start of the 15-16 season, and if the fans can rally around the team in the next couple years, break ground on a new gym in five years. If the fans don't rally around the team in that timeframe, then there's no point anyway because we don't deserve something better.
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Post by DE-LSU84 on Feb 20, 2015 16:18:31 GMT -5
Just a thought...how about the "North Face Arena in North Philly."
Both programs use the same slogan...'Never Stop Exploring'
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 20, 2015 16:19:52 GMT -5
LaSalle should be working on a sponser for the name of the facility NOW. Tom Gola Court at the WaWa Arena has a nice ring to it. I would not make it multipurpose. If you don't have to build on the same land as Hayman, then Hayman should be for everything else while the new one should be just basketball games. If you want to have a basketball-centric practice facility / weight room in there as well, great, but basketball should have this one. And this from a former non-basketball athlete. Playing a wise a$$ for a minute, why not make it multipurpose? Nova has an indoor track that runs around the Pavilion, why couldn't they do the same in a new arena at La Salle? The track team would benefit, and could host some events too. Not saying the surface on Nova's indoor track is good, or event ideal, but it's better than nothing. #OHWAIT that would mean the court would have to moveable and I guess that wouldn't happen with the great facilities staff we have. |
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 20, 2015 16:24:02 GMT -5
I think the best course of action is to re-do the TGA. Change the direction of the court from N-S to E-W. Put in new seats and fix the bathroom and concession areas. Spend a couple million dollars on this before the start of the 15-16 season, and if the fans can rally around the team in the next couple years, break ground on a new gym in five years. If the fans don't rally around the team in that timeframe, then there's no point anyway because we don't deserve something better. manayunk53, I'd be buying what you're selling, but someone I know that has a big bank account, told me he had a check written, the plans drawn up and the contractor to do the job, and was basically told no thanks by the school. |
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Post by 23won on Feb 20, 2015 16:32:16 GMT -5
Too bad La Salle's Alum and once CEO of Tastykake sold to flower foods. I think they may have been a great partner to put us over the edge on funding. The proximity on huntington ave would have been perfect for the community as well. With that in mind, who better to make a large contribution than Larry Miller. Air Jordan Arena would certainly get some buzz. I believe that should we go the sponsorship route, we would be looking for a brand shares the catholic ideals as part of their as well, so that may narrow the funnel. They were over-levered and had to sell out as a distressed seller. They could've given some dough, but no cash :-) |
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Post by calidelphia on Feb 20, 2015 16:32:37 GMT -5
Too bad La Salle's Alum and once CEO of Tastykake sold to flower foods. I think they may have been a great partner to put us over the edge on funding. The proximity on huntington ave would have been perfect for the community as well. With that in mind, who better to make a large contribution than Larry Miller. Air Jordan Arena would certainly get some buzz. I believe that should we go the sponsorship route, we would be looking for a brand shares the catholic ideals as part of their as well, so that may narrow the funnel. I don't even where I want to start with this.. So many different ways... None of them good..Cali, are you trolling? Not trolling but just having a little fun with a dead horse. |
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