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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 18:58:01 GMT -5
I just saw via twitter that Duren has a stress factor and is walking in a boot.
Honestly I had a lot of hope but our season is over without Duren. I knew something was wrong in the Hartford game. This is awful news and I know this board is going to flip.
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Post by cva43 on Dec 5, 2013 19:08:37 GMT -5
I am wondering if Stukes will replace him?
What a shame.
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 5, 2013 19:16:39 GMT -5
If true, feels like deja vu all over again with another senior group hitting road block after road block
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 5, 2013 19:20:01 GMT -5
Sad part is he has played too many games to get a redshirt.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 5, 2013 19:30:31 GMT -5
No matter what happens this group was terrific and I will always remember what they accomplished. I would not use Amar this season with 30% of season over and go with players we have which will give Lewis and Peterson more playing time. How much time will T.Duren miss  ?. It may explain why T. was struggling particularly if he has ahd this problem for awhile and needless to say could be a huge factor on why we as a team have looked off to date. If T.Duren is done for season we must rally around team and hope for the best but at the same time be realistic. Bad luck first with Lewis and now Duren. |
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Dec 5, 2013 19:46:45 GMT -5
Not happy about this, but honestly, we should be 2-2 over the next four, at the worst. Should be able to beat Stonybrook and Wagner without him. Nova and Miami just became much harder games to win. Penn game is a month from yesterday, and I won't speculate on that.
If they go 2-2 this month, that puts them at 6-6, which just means they'll have to play great in conference and in tourney. If this were January 5th, I'd be a ton more concerned about season.
Get Well Tyreek.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 5, 2013 19:47:21 GMT -5
No matter what happens this group was terrific and I will always remember what they accomplished. I would not use Amar this season with 30% of season over and go with players we have which will give Lewis and Peterson more playing time. How much time will T.Duren miss ?. It may explain why T. was struggling particularly if he has ahd this problem for awhile and needless to say could be a huge factor on why we as a team have looked off to date. If T.Duren is done for season we must rally around team and hope for the best but at the same time be realistic. Bad luck first with Lewis and now Duren. ECK! on Tys injury. And agree completely about Amar keeping the red shirt on! Let the other guards strengthen their game in his absence and then (lets hope) Tyreek returns by A10 tourney time. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 19:47:56 GMT -5
I am hoping someone could ahead some light on the extent of his injury soon. Hopefully it is only minor and will only result from him being out 4-6 weeks. He HAS to be back for the Temple game.
Our season hinges on Khalid IMO. He probably going to start quite a few games.
Will all know on Saturday what this team can do without Duren. I will be praying!
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 5, 2013 19:56:50 GMT -5
Rest til couple weeks before Brooklyn and make this a 4 game season
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 20:20:12 GMT -5
Sad part is he has played too many games to get a redshirt. He is still eligible for a medical redshirt. As long as he plays in less than 30% of the total games and doesn't play after the mid-point of the season, he can get the redshirt. The rule used to be 20% but they increased it 3-4 years ago. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 5, 2013 20:27:03 GMT -5
I have nothing new to add except I agree with leaving Stukes on the bench and just hoping for the best. If he's ready to come back in a month you play him without thinking about a Medical Redshirt. If it goes longer than that maybe you start to think otherwise.
Giving a guy who was planning on being done after this year another year, after a lot of his classmates have graduated sometimes doesn't work out well.
Hope Ty gets better.
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 5, 2013 20:27:56 GMT -5
Sad part is he has played too many games to get a redshirt. He is still eligible for a medical redshirt. As long as he plays in less than 30% of the total games and doesn't play after the mid-point of the season, he can get the redshirt. The rule used to be 20% but they increased it 3-4 years ago. Feel horrible for Tyreek but it's something he strongly would have to consider based on the extent of the injury. This team still is viable for March with him next year, most teams you can't say that when it comes to a medical redshirt |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 5, 2013 20:46:22 GMT -5
I think you have to assume the worst - stress fractures take a LONG time to heal, see : guillandeaux, Ruben
I'm not sure if this was an issue from the start of the season and something they were hoping to manage along the way or if it's a new development but he is in pretty much an awful position right now
I think you have to take the red shirt off Stukes and give it a go, otherwise, you don't have a PG on your team. Lewis is not a PG.
Regardless, this is truly heartbreaking. Worse than with Rodney & Co because these guys had finally broken through
I don't know what the rules are for medical redshirts after you play but I sure hope this isn't how Duren's career ends, I will be totally shocked if he's back on the floor this season and I think it's safe to write off the rest of the year now
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 20:47:55 GMT -5
Sad part is he has played too many games to get a redshirt. He is still eligible for a medical redshirt. As long as he plays in less than 30% of the total games and doesn't play after the mid-point of the season, he can get the redshirt. The rule used to be 20% but they increased it 3-4 years ago. That could make things interesting... Total shame for Ty. Wouldn't wish that crap on anyone. |
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Post by SICguy84 on Dec 5, 2013 20:51:18 GMT -5
Now we know and can wrap our heads around this rather than playing the speculation game about the poor play.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 20:53:00 GMT -5
Firmly in the "do not play Stukes" camp. He showed major potential, but let's not forget that he looked mostly lost during the exhibition versus IUP. That's not going to change a month and a half later.
I'm not about to write off the season, but the idea getting Tyreek back next year is pretty wild. That's jumping ahead though.
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 20:56:17 GMT -5
Firmly in the "do not play Stukes" camp. He showed major potential, but let's not forget that he looked mostly lost during the exhibition versus IUP. That's not going to change a month and a half later. I'm not about to write off the season, but the idea getting Tyreek back next year is pretty wild. That's jumping ahead though. I agree keep Stukes redshirted unless G seen something we haven't. It all depends on the extent of Duren's injury it could be minor and if it heals well than I bring him back. Typically injuries like this our 6-8 weeks if it's in the heal of his foot. G not to type of coach to bring in a player off injury too quickly. I think you wait out the redshirt decision to see how the foot progresses. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 5, 2013 20:56:42 GMT -5
6-8 weeks to heal. That takes you to late January, then you need to get Duren back in game shape another week or two and it's the middle of February.
Duren plays like 35 mins a game, it's too many minutes for the rest of the guys on the roster and you still have no PG
if the kid was Duren's heir, he should be ready to play
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 21:00:48 GMT -5
6-8 weeks to heal. That takes you to late January, then you need to get Duren back in game shape another week or two and it's the middle of February. Duren plays like 35 mins a game, it's too many minutes for the rest of the guys on the roster and you still have no PG if the kid was Duren's heir, he should be ready to play Are you saying to play Stukes and redshirt Tyreek? This is all theoretical, based on Ty's injury lasting through the remainder of the season obviously. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 5, 2013 21:04:01 GMT -5
I also. Want to point out this hasn't been reported by a credible source yet, in my opinion. I saw the Explorer Entourage twitter post that it was originally reported by someone I'm not familiar with. Maybe this all stems from someone seeing him on campus in a boot.
Not to impugn anyone but this still needs confirmation in my opinion.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 5, 2013 21:13:03 GMT -5
I was a little surprised to not see a Philahoops tweet but I guess we will see. Regardless, a walking boot is a bad sign
And yes - if it is a fracture I think you shut him down for the year and go with Stukes. 6-8 weeks is your best case, if it lingers on then you've really done the team a disservice by making them play short handed and no relief on the way. By the time you get to Feb, it's way too late to consider Stukes and now you have two PGs on the bench and zero on the floor.
Way too much to gain this season by returning to the post season and I think you have to pull out all the stops to make it happen
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 21:17:09 GMT -5
I also. Want to point out this hasn't been reported by a credible source yet, in my opinion. I saw the Explorer Entourage twitter post that it was originally reported by someone I'm not familiar with. Maybe this all stems from someone seeing him on campus in a boot. Not to impugn anyone but this still needs confirmation in my opinion. You should start making some calls. IT IS KILLING ME! |
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 21:17:52 GMT -5
I summon Joe Fedorowicz to this thread. Maybe if we say his name three times he'll appear.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 5, 2013 21:24:08 GMT -5
Don't say it in the mirror though, he might come kill you like in Candyman
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 21:28:02 GMT -5
OHHHHH JOEEEEEEE WHEERREE AREEEE YOUUUUU
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 21:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 22:13:09 GMT -5
This news originated from some girl who's an editor for a La Salle TV sports show. She spends the majority of her time tweeting about getting goldfish drunk in Manayunk at the Bayou and that stupid Sound of Music thing on tonight.
Talking about him getting an MRI this morning, hence the stress fracture. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't stress fractures identified by X Rays? The internet and twitter handle aren't giving her credibility in my eyes.
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Post by fvp47 on Dec 5, 2013 22:34:33 GMT -5
The walking boot may very well be related to the plantar issue and not to a stress fracture. The MRI may also be related to see if there is a slight tear. If the latter could be a few weeks.
Plantar is tough to deal with and requires rest. Every time you bend your foot you tug at it. Running, jump shot. Etc.
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 5, 2013 23:01:15 GMT -5
Also seems surprising that NO ONE from any media outlet has even commented on this. Coming off a week where after a few hours, you could talk yourself into the Paul Walker death was a hoax, I don't mean to make light of this but I'm starting to think this is just an overreaction to seeing him in a boot. That boot means nothing because it could be a wide range of reasons he'd have it on
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 23:11:16 GMT -5
Also seems surprising that NO ONE from any media outlet has even commented on this. Coming off a week where after a few hours, you could talk yourself into the Paul Walker death was a hoax, I don't mean to make light of this but I'm starting to think this is just an overreaction to seeing him in a boot. That boot means nothing because it could be a wide range of reasons he'd have it on Bingo. The girl I mentioned earlier was very very concerned with making sure she was given credit for breaking the news first. Starting to think she jumped the gun. |
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