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Post by virginia61 on Nov 25, 2013 22:38:22 GMT -5
Some basics about basketball: 1. The team with the better players usually wins, although not always 2. The team that gets the better shots during a game almost always wins. This often comes down to coaching, preparation and approach. This seems to me to be much of the problem. What offense do we run? And does it fit the personnel?
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Post by calsufan on Nov 25, 2013 22:44:32 GMT -5
I made an ice cream float with beer, and it tasted as horrible as it sounds, so I called it La Salle basketball. But seriously, don't try that. Beer with Fruit Loops is better. Speaking from personal experience. We were snowed in and the school was shut down due to the blizzard. Breakfast was beer and Fruit Loops. Not half bad at all.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 25, 2013 22:49:02 GMT -5
Garland tweeted about trying to get a win and get home to "re-group and figure out how to string some wins together"
Only hope is that much like in ever game they've played this season they finally come together now that their backs are firmly against the wall (if not already through it)
On the positive side, we have a bunch if home games remaining and lots of national TV exposure coming our way to see how this progresses.
Also, think of this as like a flu shot it hurts for a minute but then it's over and now you're better prepared to handle flu season. Better than a long lingering cold that just won't go away
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Post by pantherjoe on Nov 26, 2013 1:11:44 GMT -5
Hey guys, UNI Panther fan here.
I read through the thread and felt compelled to post. A lot of people here have lumped us into a category of terrible teams. We are actually a pretty good program. We have won at least 20 games each of the last 5 years, and at least 18 each of the last 10 years. We've made the tourney 5 of 10 years, twice as an at-large (although not for 3 years), and made the Sweet 16 three years ago after beating #1 Kansas in the second round. We've made the NIT or one of the 3rd tier tournaments 3 of the other 5 years. We've also finished in the top half of the Missouri Valley, consistently a top 10 RPI league that gets multiple bids more often than not, each of the past 10 years.
2013: 21-15 (CIT semifinals, should have been in the NIT (beat 3 tourney teams) but were snubbed IMO) 2012: 20-14 (NIT second round (won @ St. Joes, lost @ Drexel by 2) 2011: 20-14 (CIT quarterfinals) 2010: 30-5 (Sweet 16, #9 Seed Beat #8 UNLV, Beat #1 Kansas, Lost to #5 Michigan State) 2009: 23-11 (NCAA 1st Round #12 Seed Lost to #5 Purdue by 5) 2008: 18-14 2007: 18-13 2006: 23-10 (NCAA 1st Round #10 Seed Lost to #7 Georgetown by 5) 2005: 21-11 (NCAA 1st Round #11 Seed Lost to #6 Wisconsin by 5) 2004: 21-10 (NCAA 1st Rond #14 Seed Lost to #3 Georgia Tech by 5) Overall 10 Year Record: 215-117
I realize you didn't play your best game tonight, and you're feeling down because you haven't performed to expectations. We know what that feels like after our mediocre follow up to our sweet 16 run. But UNI isn't a bad program like some of you have assumed. This year we are off to a slow start, but our losses (Ohio, George Mason and Maryland) are all to solid programs (combined 12-4 right now). We're a consistently solid program from a good league that knows how to win games. So don't consider today's game to be a bad loss, at least not because of the opponent. Hopefully we can continue our form this season and this won't be a bad loss for you on your resume come tournament time. And hopefully you guys reach your potential and become a good win for our resume.
Good luck the rest of the way.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Nov 26, 2013 1:35:47 GMT -5
Hey guys, UNI Panther fan here. I read through the thread and felt compelled to post. A lot of people here have lumped us into a category of terrible teams. We are actually a pretty good program. We have won at least 20 games each of the last 5 years, and at least 18 each of the last 10 years. We've made the tourney 5 of 10 years, twice as an at-large (although not for 3 years), and made the Sweet 16 three years ago after beating #1 Kansas in the second round. We've made the NIT or one of the 3rd tier tournaments 3 of the other 5 years. We've also finished in the top half of the Missouri Valley, consistently a top 10 RPI league that gets multiple bids more often than not, each of the past 10 years. 2013: 21-15 (CIT semifinals, should have been in the NIT (beat 3 tourney teams) but were snubbed IMO) 2012: 20-14 (NIT second round (won @ St. Joes, lost @ Drexel by 2) 2011: 20-14 (CIT quarterfinals) 2010: 30-5 (Sweet 16, #9 Seed Beat #8 UNLV, Beat #1 Kansas, Lost to #5 Michigan State) 2009: 23-11 (NCAA 1st Round #12 Seed Lost to #5 Purdue by 5) 2008: 18-14 2007: 18-13 2006: 23-10 (NCAA 1st Round #10 Seed Lost to #7 Georgetown by 5) 2005: 21-11 (NCAA 1st Round #11 Seed Lost to #6 Wisconsin by 5) 2004: 21-10 (NCAA 1st Rond #14 Seed Lost to #3 Georgia Tech by 5) Overall 10 Year Record: 215-117 I realize you didn't play your best game tonight, and you're feeling down because you haven't performed to expectations. We know what that feels like after our mediocre follow up to our sweet 16 run. But UNI isn't a bad program like some of you have assumed. This year we are off to a slow start, but our losses (Ohio, George Mason and Maryland) are all to solid programs (combined 12-4 right now). We're a consistently solid program from a good league that knows how to win games. So don't consider today's game to be a bad loss, at least not because of the opponent. Hopefully we can continue our form this season and this won't be a bad loss for you on your resume come tournament time. And hopefully you guys reach your potential and become a good win for our resume. Good luck the rest of the way. Was actually at the SJU and the Drexel NIT games... I agree UNI is a solid mid-major program... Play hard, smart brand of basketball...
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 26, 2013 6:05:45 GMT -5
Bracketology update?
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 7:40:26 GMT -5
Thanks for swinging by Pantherjoe. Appreciate the insight.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 26, 2013 8:09:23 GMT -5
Marland beats Providence by 4.
Dayton beats Gonzaga stays undefeated.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 26, 2013 8:14:26 GMT -5
Marland beats Providence by 4. Dayton beats Ganzaga stays undefeated. A-10 is tough once again. Shame we are not upholding our end.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 8:15:20 GMT -5
Dayton beats Ganzaga stays undefeated. Good for the A10, but if any fan base had to keep winning, it would preferably not be the most egotistical. This will keep them talking for the next 5 years.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 26, 2013 8:25:43 GMT -5
Thanks for stopping by Pantherjoe. While the vast majority of posters here are pretty knowledgeable and fair , we (like a lot of schools) have a few truly dopey basketball "fans".
I remember that great win over Kansas. Your guard was on fire hitting clutch 3's.
You're in a really tough league. Wichita State showed us that.
Good luck.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 26, 2013 9:15:47 GMT -5
Not saying we don't have reason to be frustrated and that I'm not a contributor to some of the negativity right now, but we do need to remember these guys aren't pros and try and imagine if we had a bunch of people we don't know calling us soft and that we stink at something when we were in college - pretty much what I said last night and it wasn't fair. Obviously, these guys hear it:
Ty Garland ?@tygarland 9h Everybody was supporters when we was up now lets see who still gone be there when we down i still have faith in my team we gone be good#RS
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Post by mookie on Nov 26, 2013 9:34:11 GMT -5
Hey guys, UNI Panther fan here. I read through the thread and felt compelled to post. A lot of people here have lumped us into a category of terrible teams. We are actually a pretty good program. We have won at least 20 games each of the last 5 years, and at least 18 each of the last 10 years. We've made the tourney 5 of 10 years, twice as an at-large (although not for 3 years), and made the Sweet 16 three years ago after beating #1 Kansas in the second round. We've made the NIT or one of the 3rd tier tournaments 3 of the other 5 years. We've also finished in the top half of the Missouri Valley, consistently a top 10 RPI league that gets multiple bids more often than not, each of the past 10 years. 2013: 21-15 (CIT semifinals, should have been in the NIT (beat 3 tourney teams) but were snubbed IMO) 2012: 20-14 (NIT second round (won @ St. Joes, lost @ Drexel by 2) 2011: 20-14 (CIT quarterfinals) 2010: 30-5 (Sweet 16, #9 Seed Beat #8 UNLV, Beat #1 Kansas, Lost to #5 Michigan State) 2009: 23-11 (NCAA 1st Round #12 Seed Lost to #5 Purdue by 5) 2008: 18-14 2007: 18-13 2006: 23-10 (NCAA 1st Round #10 Seed Lost to #7 Georgetown by 5) 2005: 21-11 (NCAA 1st Round #11 Seed Lost to #6 Wisconsin by 5) 2004: 21-10 (NCAA 1st Rond #14 Seed Lost to #3 Georgia Tech by 5) Overall 10 Year Record: 215-117 I realize you didn't play your best game tonight, and you're feeling down because you haven't performed to expectations. We know what that feels like after our mediocre follow up to our sweet 16 run. But UNI isn't a bad program like some of you have assumed. This year we are off to a slow start, but our losses (Ohio, George Mason and Maryland) are all to solid programs (combined 12-4 right now). We're a consistently solid program from a good league that knows how to win games. So don't consider today's game to be a bad loss, at least not because of the opponent. Hopefully we can continue our form this season and this won't be a bad loss for you on your resume come tournament time. And hopefully you guys reach your potential and become a good win for our resume. Good luck the rest of the way. I blame the polarizing characteristics associated with being a passionate fan. It's not a knock on UNI, but rather most of us expected more from this team and when you have some lofty expectations it's expected that you beat teams that are in conferences at your level...not be blown out. I'll also say that many were overlooking UNI and looking at schools like Providence, UMD and other BCS programs instead of taking it one game at a time which is what this team did last year.
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Post by coachd on Nov 26, 2013 9:54:39 GMT -5
I made an ice cream float with beer, and it tasted as horrible as it sounds, so I called it La Salle basketball. But seriously, don't try that. Very few beers go well with ice cream. I have found one that goes well with Vanilla ice cream or Coffee ice cream... and I think it has to do with the Caramel flavor in the beer. It costs $7-8 for a 22oz bottle of Southern Tier's Pumking. Supply starting to disappear as it is a seasonal brew. Cheaper by the case. Very tasty this time of year.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 10:34:19 GMT -5
Ty Garland ?@tygarland 9h Everybody was supporters when we was up now lets see who still gone be there when we down i still have faith in my team we gone be good#RS Ugh. I hate to be saying this, but this is exactly what I wouldn't want my players to be saying on social media. Immature, kinda like the way they're playing and a total shot at the fans after they're continually crapping their pants game after game.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 26, 2013 10:43:01 GMT -5
On the plus side, if they develop an "us against them" mentality a little bit, that can be a rallying point to unify the team. Great teams need something to rally around. Sometimes in pro sports it's the players hate management, sometimes the players hate the coach or sometimes it's the media. It doesn't have to be this way necessarily, but there need sot be some sort of rally point and maybe feeling like they are going to prove all the doubters wrong will be what brings them together.
My bigger point was that we do need to put this in perspective. It's a high-pressure situation to be in at a young age.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 26, 2013 11:03:36 GMT -5
Not saying we don't have reason to be frustrated and that I'm not a contributor to some of the negativity right now, but we do need to remember these guys aren't pros and try and imagine if we had a bunch of people we don't know calling us soft and that we stink at something when we were in college - pretty much what I said last night and it wasn't fair. Obviously, these guys hear it: Ty Garland ?@tygarland 9h Everybody was supporters when we was up now lets see who still gone be there when we down i still have faith in my team we gone be good#RS This. This. This. This. This. This. This.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 26, 2013 11:05:35 GMT -5
I made an ice cream float with beer, and it tasted as horrible as it sounds, so I called it La Salle basketball. But seriously, don't try that. Very few beers go well with ice cream. I have found one that goes well with Vanilla ice cream or Coffee ice cream... and I think it has to do with the Caramel flavor in the beer. It costs $7-8 for a 22oz bottle of Southern Tier's Pumking. Supply starting to disappear as it is a seasonal brew. Cheaper by the case. Very tasty this time of year. And also this. I could see how those ice cream flavors, esp a not overly sugared small batch version, would nicely mellow out Pumking.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 11:40:17 GMT -5
Very few beers go well with ice cream. I have found one that goes well with Vanilla ice cream or Coffee ice cream... and I think it has to do with the Caramel flavor in the beer. It costs $7-8 for a 22oz bottle of Southern Tier's Pumking. Supply starting to disappear as it is a seasonal brew. Cheaper by the case. Very tasty this time of year. And also this. I could see how those ice cream flavors, esp a not overly sugared small batch version, would nicely mellow out Pumking. Tempted to go the route of a sugary Christmas beer such as Mad Elf (despite it being overrated) with some old school vanilla ice cream.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 26, 2013 11:56:04 GMT -5
You know atleast one of the brothers at Troegs is a La Salle guy?
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Post by calidelphia on Nov 26, 2013 12:28:53 GMT -5
I made an ice cream float with beer, and it tasted as horrible as it sounds, so I called it La Salle basketball. But seriously, don't try that. Very few beers go well with ice cream. I have found one that goes well with Vanilla ice cream or Coffee ice cream... and I think it has to do with the Caramel flavor in the beer. It costs $7-8 for a 22oz bottle of Southern Tier's Pumking. Supply starting to disappear as it is a seasonal brew. Cheaper by the case. Very tasty this time of year. Haven't tried this for good reason but I would imagine that Guiness or Stone smoked porter might be able to pair reasonably well with some breyers.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 26, 2013 12:32:35 GMT -5
Victory Storm King comes to mind as well.
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Post by pantherjoe on Nov 26, 2013 13:20:19 GMT -5
I blame the polarizing characteristics associated with being a passionate fan. It's not a knock on UNI, but rather most of us expected more from this team and when you have some lofty expectations it's expected that you beat teams that are in conferences at your level...not be blown out. I'll also say that many were overlooking UNI and looking at schools like Providence, UMD and other BCS programs instead of taking it one game at a time which is what this team did last year. I understand. I was just responding to posts like this one: 38 it is beyond disappointing and entering the embarrassment stage. To date we have played 1 fairly good team (Providence), 1 slightly above average team (Manhattan), 1 average team (Penn State) and four bad to very bad teams and look at how pathetic we are. As of now we are staring at a 10th or 11th place finish in the A10. Those and many others that just assume UNI is a horrible team because they have a direction in front of their name and are from Iowa. Just wanted to educate some on the level of play UNI and the MVC bring to the table. The loss is not as bad as some of you think. That’s all I’m saying. Again, good luck the rest of the way. Hope you win the A-10!
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 13:30:05 GMT -5
You know atleast one of the brothers at Troegs is a La Salle guy? Yeah he was late 90s guy or something, right? I just don't get to Harrisburg often, but it's on the to-do list. Storm King could be fun. I don't hate that this turned into a beer discussion.
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Post by nostalgic on Nov 26, 2013 13:38:10 GMT -5
You know atleast one of the brothers at Troegs is a La Salle guy? Yeah he was late 90s guy or something, right? I just don't get to Harrisburg often, but it's on the to-do list. Storm King could be fun. I don't hate that this turned into a beer discussion. Yeah, his name is John Trogner. Seems to be more into brewing than basketball. I met him a few years ago. He said he was a Finance major at La Salle, worked one year in Finance (somewhere in Philly), got bored real quickly and went off to learn to brew. They have a fantastic facility (brewery, tasting room, general store) in Hershey, Pa. He's doing quite well for himself. If I recall correctly, his wife is also a La Salle grad. Cheers!
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 26, 2013 15:33:30 GMT -5
I blame the polarizing characteristics associated with being a passionate fan. It's not a knock on UNI, but rather most of us expected more from this team and when you have some lofty expectations it's expected that you beat teams that are in conferences at your level...not be blown out. I'll also say that many were overlooking UNI and looking at schools like Providence, UMD and other BCS programs instead of taking it one game at a time which is what this team did last year. I understand. I was just responding to posts like this one: 38 it is beyond disappointing and entering the embarrassment stage. To date we have played 1 fairly good team (Providence), 1 slightly above average team (Manhattan), 1 average team (Penn State) and four bad to very bad teams and look at how pathetic we are. As of now we are staring at a 10th or 11th place finish in the A10. Those and many others that just assume UNI is a horrible team because they have a direction in front of their name and are from Iowa. Just wanted to educate some on the level of play UNI and the MVC bring to the table. The loss is not as bad as some of you think. That’s all I’m saying. Again, good luck the rest of the way. Hope you win the A-10! Good post, good point.
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Post by lwc4591 on Nov 26, 2013 16:04:15 GMT -5
I give you guys a lot of credit for trying to sugar coat are season but most see it for what it is and that it is nothing short (to date)of a huge disappointment. UNI is nothing more than a very mediocre team.No one said to give up on team but just be honest about how they are playing and it is not good and that is being kind. As far as UNI maybe the farmers in Iowa care but I don't give two corn stalkes about them.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 26, 2013 16:15:47 GMT -5
I give you guys a lot of credit for trying to sugar coat are season but most see it for what it is and that it is nothing short (to date)of a huge disappointment. UNI is nothing more than a very mediocre team.No one said to give up on team but just be honest about how they are playing and it is not good and that is being kind. As far as UNI maybe the farmers in Iowa care but I don't give two corn stalkes about them.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 26, 2013 16:49:19 GMT -5
Phila. Inquirer sports page headline re: last night's La Salle performance: Paradise Lost
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Post by pantherjoe on Nov 26, 2013 17:12:38 GMT -5
I give you guys a lot of credit for trying to sugar coat are season but most see it for what it is and that it is nothing short (to date)of a huge disappointment. UNI is nothing more than a very mediocre team.No one said to give up on team but just be honest about how they are playing and it is not good and that is being kind. As far as UNI maybe the farmers in Iowa care but I don't give two corn stalkes about them. You don't have to care about our success, but it does have an impact on your season if this is a bad loss or not. What makes you think UNI is a very mediocre team?
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