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Post by big5explorer on Sept 30, 2013 7:32:47 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this one for a while, and I've come to the conclusion that early season games are much more important to teams and conferences than games at season's end. Many coaches, fans, and analysts seem oblivious to this.
Here's why I think the early season game carries so much weight:
Teams play most, if not all, of their out-of-conference games during the first 1/4 of of the season. During this time the conferences construct nearly all of their résumé and establish their ranking in comparison to other conferences. If a conference like the A10 wins a ton of games early, and pockets quite a few upsets, they'll get 4 or 5 teams into the NCAA. If the A10 gets plastered early, and comes up with few quality wins, they'll get 2 or 3 teams in. Look at the Pac12 last year as another good example. They got only 3 teams into the tourney. And Oregon, the Pac12 champ, got a 12 seed. Last year's Mountain West is another great example. They established their #1 ranked confernce RPI early, and held onto it, despite their teams beating one another up. And they got 5 teams into the Tourney. The ACC, with all their tradition and notoriety, only got 4.
So did the Mountian West really deserve 5 teams? After all, none of them made the sweet 16. I'll argue that question is moot. It doesn't matter. Their conference teams won early and often against non-confernce teams and had trumped the ACC on Selection Sunday. They got 5 chances to win the National Championship. Because of how they did as a conference in the first 10 games of the year.
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Post by vasalos on Sept 30, 2013 9:01:26 GMT -5
OOC games matter when it comes to RPI. One win can really carry a team's resume. However, the way a team ends really sticks in the Selection Committee's minds and can devestate a team's RPI. If we had lost to URI, St. Bonas, GW, Duq at the end of last season, our NCAA hopes would have been gone.
Also remember when it comes to OOC games, playing bubble teams only helps fill out a team's SOS--win or lose. The fact that we played Miami really helped us in terms of SOS.
So at the end of the day, it's all relative to who you play when.
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Post by coachd on Sept 30, 2013 10:49:42 GMT -5
Actually the NCAA tourney rewards both. If you get hot late, after losing to bad teams, you'd better win your conference regular season and/or tourney.
The NIT was created for teams that played awesome in the middle of the season but had a couple bad losses in OOC and in conf play.
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Post by MisterD on Sept 30, 2013 11:34:25 GMT -5
I believe these are commonly referred to as "games".
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Post by luhoopsfan on Sept 30, 2013 12:22:02 GMT -5
the NIT was actually created first
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Post by MisterD on Sept 30, 2013 12:27:24 GMT -5
This is fun.
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Post by durenduren on Sept 30, 2013 12:59:25 GMT -5
I believe these are commonly referred to as "games". Welp, wrap it up. The internet is closed for the rest of the day.
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Post by coachd on Oct 1, 2013 12:50:38 GMT -5
the NIT was actually created first Sorry I forgot my asterisk. * NIT since the NCAA took it over.
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