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Post by coqui900 on Jul 12, 2013 11:03:02 GMT -5
I'm still bitter at all the press Marshall got in the national media during the tournament. I mean, I know he's a character and characters sell. But a lot of the press was actually very positive of him. Yet there wasn't anything about Ramon and how crazy his upbringing was and what he overcame.
I shouldn't complain too much, though, considering there was a Rohan Brown Day and a feature story in the NY Times about Brother Ed.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 12, 2013 11:24:56 GMT -5
Coqui, typically through training programs and experience, smell alone of weed is enough to justify probable cause for a search in most states. That is enough to initiate a legal warrant-less search of the vehicle, including the persons of that vehicle. Having the dog indicate on the vehicle was just furthering their cause. Just like plain sight, "plain smell" is fair game too.
If I had a dog at my disposal to search the car, I'd use it too. Might have been a situation of convenience, but using a K-9 to assist the vehicle search would seem like slam dunk after finding both weed and cocain on driver and passenger.
Who knows what else could have been in that car...
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Post by theneumann64 on Jul 12, 2013 11:29:31 GMT -5
I shouldn't complain too much, though, considering there was a Rohan Brown Day and a feature story in the NY Times about Brother Ed. Really though, isn't every day Rohan Brown day?
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Post by durenduren on Jul 12, 2013 11:44:31 GMT -5
And being fair, all this "Marshall cooperation" talk is really just a fluffed up way to say it's not a large enough quantity to justify using both the court and DA's very limited resources and funding for something that equate to a slap on the wrist when there's bigger fish to fry.
Cooperating is not hiding cocain on your person while giving up the weed. That's lying by omission. He's still a dirtball, but that's the power of Ole Miss.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 12, 2013 11:45:45 GMT -5
If he wasn't driving under the influence, I don't really see the point of caring. Pretty much everything college athletes get arrested for is worse than recreational drugs on their person.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 12, 2013 11:48:21 GMT -5
I shouldn't complain too much, though, considering there was a Rohan Brown Day and a feature story in the NY Times about Brother Ed. Really though, isn't every day Rohan Brown day? If it's not, it should be. Call me crazy, and you won't be the first people to do so, I think Rohan might actually have a breakout season this year. By "Breakout" I mean - regular minutes and contributions to a winning team (8mins, 4 pts, 4 rebs)
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Post by MisterD on Jul 12, 2013 11:49:29 GMT -5
I could definitely see him as a frontcourt energy guy, a la what Weingarten should have been.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 12, 2013 11:49:34 GMT -5
Oh, and Henderson is as big of a scumbag as I've seen in my life - he'll never make it in the NBA and will wind up pumping gas for a living, smoking crack and talking about how great he could've been.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 12, 2013 11:51:25 GMT -5
Hyperbole. We've had bigger scumbags at La Salle, Henderson is just a better antagonist.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 12, 2013 12:18:27 GMT -5
Hyperbole. We've had bigger scumbags at La Salle, Henderson is just a better antagonist. Truth. That time Karon Burton went for a jog through Chester with some weed, a grand of cash, and some police friends... Dodged that one mostly.
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 12, 2013 13:10:57 GMT -5
I know a star baseball player from ole miss who played in the 80's and from what he tells me getting a pass with this sort of thing is all too common. While it's not the eighties anymore, it still seems more of the same. The kid obviously has an addiction to cocaine and it is a sad state that there is not much progress setting his life straight. there's a good chance he gets another pass here just like the fake NCAA reprimand for flipping off La Salle fans, after this season I'd bet on either 12 step or more jailtime.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 12, 2013 13:24:01 GMT -5
What? Why does he "obviously" have an "addiction" to cocaine?
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Post by stlexplorer on Jul 12, 2013 14:52:42 GMT -5
Is it bad/wrong every time I saw Henderson he reminded me of Delonte West?
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Post by coachd on Jul 12, 2013 14:57:12 GMT -5
Is it bad/wrong every time I saw Henderson he reminded me of Delonte West? Was he seen having dinner with LeBron's mom?
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 12, 2013 16:27:55 GMT -5
What? Why does he "obviously" have an "addiction" to cocaine? He failed drug tests for it including when he was on probation. After working closely with treatment centers, this happens. If you can't stop doing something and it's ruining your life, it's habitual. I am not blaming him or saying it makes him a bad person by any means. Many good people have similar struggles. I'm mostly saying i hope he gets the help if he cares to have it.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 12, 2013 18:32:24 GMT -5
You can be addicted. You can also be a recreational user too dumb not to use when you know you're getting tested.
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 12, 2013 19:07:55 GMT -5
true. it is a fine line.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 12, 2013 20:28:49 GMT -5
Addiction or not, it's illegal. IMO, being granted a scholarship for athletics is an unworldly gift, and if you screw it up, the NCAA should hold you responsible. I don't know where you'd draw that line, but violations of banned drugs shouldn't be viewed any different than violations of performance enhancing substances.
Each violation harms both school, conference, and NCAA brand, and strife in DI athletics is pretty out of control. The NCAA seems pretty heavyhanded when it comes to football violations when compared to basketball. I don't know where you'd draw that line, and I guess I'm proposing that the NCAA should take more responsibility from the schools to create a more uniform code of standards, and then schools can set further codes on an institution to institution basis. Just tired of seeing athletes getting caught up in repeated drug and violent crime scenarios with schools churning out kids such as Henderson and Hernandez, taking no stake in the education of the individual for the sake of athletics. Some schools do this well, and others completely skate it.
That, or this whole thing is dumb which is cool too.
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Post by vasalos on Jul 13, 2013 17:41:43 GMT -5
He'll be back. It's a SEC school. He's the best player -- or at least the leading scorer -- on a team that just made the NCAA tournament and helps Ole Miss basketball get a lot of recognition. Andy Kennedy also owes him a debt of gratitude because Marshall's hot SEC tournament saved him his job and helped him book a new contract extension. If they were serious about punishing him he'd be off the team or at least in a very public rehab (like what Fresno did w/ Herren). Instead, it's a press release they put out ahead of his arrest (or however you want to frame it) was put out in public. As I alluded to before, Henderson is operating now under the Hernandez era. No way any major conference team will touch this kid with reports of cocaine possession and outright disregard for police. Henderson was pretty open about his drug use last year all over social media. Nothing happened. In fact, the university put a handler on him to control him. Unfortunately for him, he's operating in a new climate now that Hernandez did what he did. Henderson is done with a major program.
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