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Post by SICguy84 on May 1, 2013 16:53:44 GMT -5
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Post by glorydays on May 1, 2013 18:29:13 GMT -5
Would Dunph move up to AD? Probably not.
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Post by 23won on May 2, 2013 9:28:46 GMT -5
Looks like Clark will start on an interim basis and then get the full nod later. Clark came in with the new President. Smart executives put "their" people in positions of power. Sports are a big deal/budget at Temple. This looks like an MBA move.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 10:17:54 GMT -5
Bradshaw had Dunphy's back. If Temple doesn't win big in their new conference, Dunphy could find himself on the hot seat.
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Post by luhoopsfan on May 2, 2013 11:19:26 GMT -5
I hope everything is OK with Bradshaw's family, but this move to the AAC is looking more and more like a move that will backfire in the long run for all their sports. I have to beleive that UConn and Cincy will find new homes and wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy go back to CUSA eventually.
UConn is going to beg and plead its way into another conference at some point I imagine and then Temple will be stuck in what is basically the MAC but a different geography and while there may be more football money around, their flagship hoops program is going to suffer.
College football and Philadelphia don't mix well, Philadelphia is a pro-sports team town except for basketball. The Eagles even when they are 3-13 dominate the football conversation and always will. This was a money-grab for Temple football in the near term, but long term, I'm not sure there will be anything left for them.
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Post by coachd on May 2, 2013 11:28:25 GMT -5
Bradshaw had Dunphy's back. If Temple doesn't win big in their new conference, Dunphy could find himself on the hot seat. Temple is a minnow in a pond full of larger predators. Temple, not Dunphy, is on the hot seat for jumping without looking where they were landing. Bradshaw is getting out before the heat is turned up. |
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Post by big5time on May 2, 2013 14:55:00 GMT -5
I hope everything is OK with Bradshaw's family, but this move to the AAC is looking more and more like a move that will backfire in the long run for all their sports. I have to beleive that UConn and Cincy will find new homes and wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy go back to CUSA eventually. UConn is going to beg and plead its way into another conference at some point I imagine and then Temple will be stuck in what is basically the MAC but a different geography and while there may be more football money around, their flagship hoops program is going to suffer. College football and Philadelphia don't mix well, Philadelphia is a pro-sports team town except for basketball. The Eagles even when they are 3-13 dominate the football conversation and always will. This was a money-grab for Temple football in the near term, but long term, I'm not sure there will be anything left for them. Really, Cincy back to CUSA? You do realize what CUSA will be made up of once SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Tulane, UCF, and ECU leave? It will be the Sun Belt Conference... The A-10 will also be losing two more schools most likely. The A-10 will be a shell of itself...Temple is making more money than they ever would in the A-10/Mac and the competition is better. Take a look at Houston and SMU's basketball recruiting the last two years. Temple gets to play Memphis, Uconn, Cincy every year now too...I dont see Uconn or Cincy moving anytime soon... Uconn is in a tough spot...If they joined the ACC they would make the conference unbalanced for football (nd is only an associate member and just re-signed with NBC). That makes a move the the ACC unlikely. The Big 10 locked up the NYC market with Rutgers. Uconn isn't going anywhere for a while unless the ACC loses schools and with the new GOR the conference signed, that is unlikely... |
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Post by big5time on May 2, 2013 14:56:13 GMT -5
Bradshaw had Dunphy's back. If Temple doesn't win big in their new conference, Dunphy could find himself on the hot seat. Temple is a minnow in a pond full of larger predators. Temple, not Dunphy, is on the hot seat for jumping without looking where they were landing. Bradshaw is getting out before the heat is turned up. So you are saying Temple shouldn't have taken the Big East invite? Really?  ? |
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Post by theneumann64 on May 2, 2013 15:49:33 GMT -5
Rutgers is NOT the New York market. It's just not. I know people claim it is, but I've lived in New York for the overwhelming majority of my 27 years on this planet, and with the exception of the 1 Ray Rice year when they were real good, never heard Rutgers talked about on WFAN, on the news or 5 different cable sports channels, and is usually in the page of the Daily News where they put the scores for Women's basketball, and ads for strip clubs. Rutgers is in the New York market like the Hartford Whalers were in the New York market.
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Post by theneumann64 on May 2, 2013 15:49:57 GMT -5
Temple is a minnow in a pond full of larger predators. Temple, not Dunphy, is on the hot seat for jumping without looking where they were landing. Bradshaw is getting out before the heat is turned up. So you are saying Temple shouldn't have taken the Big East invite? Really? ? They're not in the Big East though now, are they? |
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Post by nepaexplorer on May 2, 2013 16:24:29 GMT -5
Rutgers is NOT the New York market. It's just not. I know people claim it is, but I've lived in New York for the overwhelming majority of my 27 years on this planet, and with the exception of the 1 Ray Rice year when they were real good, never heard Rutgers talked about on WFAN, on the news or 5 different cable sports channels, and is usually in the page of the Daily News where they put the scores for Women's basketball, and ads for strip clubs. Rutgers is in the New York market like the Hartford Whalers were in the New York market. I do see a lot of Rutgers coverage on SNY. That Chris Carlin guy must be an alum, or a Rutgers broadcaster, because he seems to be the Scarlet correspondent. Whenever I think of Bill Bradshaw, I think of the Truck Butts fiasco of 1984-85. We lost our starting center from a tournament team one week before the season began. The word back then was that Bradshaw blew the whistle on his own player, and the NCAA ruled Truck ineligible because of it. Don't know how true that is, but that would've been a heck of a team: Butts, Steve Black, Ralph Lewis, Larry Koretz, Chip Greenberg, Legler, Tarr, Tiano, etc. |
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Post by big5time on May 2, 2013 16:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by theneumann64 on May 2, 2013 16:27:15 GMT -5
Rutgers is NOT the New York market. It's just not. I know people claim it is, but I've lived in New York for the overwhelming majority of my 27 years on this planet, and with the exception of the 1 Ray Rice year when they were real good, never heard Rutgers talked about on WFAN, on the news or 5 different cable sports channels, and is usually in the page of the Daily News where they put the scores for Women's basketball, and ads for strip clubs. Rutgers is in the New York market like the Hartford Whalers were in the New York market. I do see a lot of Rutgers coverage on SNY. That Chris Carlin guy must be an alum, or a Rutgers broadcaster, because he seems to be the Scarlet correspondent. Fair enough. I don't watch much SNY, because I root for the successful New York teams. |
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Post by theneumann64 on May 2, 2013 16:31:42 GMT -5
UConn is absolutely more in the NY market than Rutgers. I'm not gonna go round and round on this, but in reality, if New York has a "hometown" team for college basketball, it's Syracuse. Followed by UConn, with St. John's only cracking the list when they're good. The rest of them, in a town with 9 major pro sports teams, penetrate the market about as much as (you can make up your own filthy analogy to end this sentence).
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Post by big5time on May 2, 2013 16:32:20 GMT -5
So you are saying Temple shouldn't have taken the Big East invite? Really? ? They're not in the Big East though now, are they? What conference did they join at the time and who was in it? Hindsight being 20/20...they would still make the move...A-10/Mac revenue $300,000+...AAC revenue $2M+ not the mention that the A-10 isn't the conference it used to be with losing Butler, Xavier...and most likely St. Louis and Richmond/dayton in the near future... Plus, better exposure on ESPN/CBS with the new TV contract. Temple got screwed in what they could have had, but it is still a better situation than they had... |
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Post by big5time on May 2, 2013 16:35:02 GMT -5
UConn is absolutely more in the NY market than Rutgers. I'm not gonna go round and round on this, but in reality, if New York has a "hometown" team for college basketball, it's Syracuse. Followed by UConn, with St. John's only cracking the list when they're good. The rest of them, in a town with 9 major pro sports teams, penetrate the market about as much as (you can make up your own filthy analogy to end this sentence). Dude, you may think that...but the Big 10 didn't... And now that Rutgers has the market according to the Big 10. Uconn has to prove that they can increase the revenue of the conference rather than just taking another share of everyone's profit...which I dont think they can... |
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Post by theneumann64 on May 2, 2013 19:49:12 GMT -5
You're wrong, and I'm right, but I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so party on. By the way I'll be at Grand Central and the Port Authority tomorrow, I'll take pictures of the huge Rutgers banners all over town.
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Post by durenduren on May 2, 2013 20:40:15 GMT -5
The rest of them, in a town with 9 major pro sports teams, penetrate the market about as much as (you can make up your own filthy analogy to end this sentence). This. Rutgers basketball isn't even relevant in New Brunswick anymore. They haven't had a .500 season since 2005-2006, and the last time they went to the NCAA was 1991. Top that with being overshadowed by the football team, and all of the chaos they're facing now. Sanctions, transfers, etc. They're almost entirely irrelevant in the NYC market. Rutgers is North Jersey. And particularly now, if you think the basketball team's relevancy extends past that, you're cray cray. |
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Post by jetstorm on May 2, 2013 21:42:41 GMT -5
You're wrong, and I'm right, but I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so party on. By the way I'll be at Grand Central and the Port Authority tomorrow, I'll take pictures of the huge Rutgers banners all over town. You will find them right next to the UCON banners!!! |
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Post by coachd on May 6, 2013 11:17:14 GMT -5
Temple is a minnow in a pond full of larger predators. Temple, not Dunphy, is on the hot seat for jumping without looking where they were landing. Bradshaw is getting out before the heat is turned up. So you are saying Temple shouldn't have taken the Big East invite? Really? ? Yes, they should have realized that when Villanova didn't object to them joining the Big East that something had to be going on "behind the scenes". Nova always said they would fight to keep any other Philly area team out of the Big East. Temple will have more revenue in their new conference but their travel costs will also be much higher. It certainly is not what they had hoped for. |
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Post by big5time on May 6, 2013 20:09:05 GMT -5
So you are saying Temple shouldn't have taken the Big East invite? Really? ? Yes, they should have realized that when Villanova didn't object to them joining the Big East that something had to be going on "behind the scenes". Nova always said they would fight to keep any other Philly area team out of the Big East. Temple will have more revenue in their new conference but their travel costs will also be much higher. It certainly is not what they had hoped for. You are completely off base... Villanova did object until the very end. The problem is they lost their majority vote because Gtown and St. John's went against them in the end to please the football schools. They were told to shut up and deal with it. Why do you think their Pres. was at the press conference for Temple? So they could act like everything was fine. The basketball schools were not considering moving at that time. They began the process of moving when the first television number came in after the Big East added Tulane for football this fall... That was the final straw... Seriously, Temple was only making $300K in the A-10 and MAC, with less exposure...Temple didn't get what they were looking for but at the time they joined Rutgers, Louisville, Boise St, and SDST were still in the conference for football. The league had estimations of a substantial TV contract...they had to make the move... |
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