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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 23:02:16 GMT -5
I think he got confused with the Garland transfer... because Tyrone played the first semester it ended up costing him a full year. I think Tyrone has two full years of eligibility left. He played his freshman year in 2010-11 for Virginia Tech, then only played the first semester of his sophomore 2011-12 season. He sat out the second semester of 2011-12 and the first semester of 2012-13, before playing with La Salle for the 2nd semester this season. So he has only played the equivalent of 2 seasons, and thus has two seasons left. Here is Dick Jerardi's original article about Tyrone Garland's signing: articles.philly.com/2011-12-22/sports/30547239_1_salle-coach-john-giannini-la-salle-transfersHe will end up playing parts of 5 straight seasons, and be a 5th year senior in 2014-15. Incorrect sir! They really don't allow December grads to play an extra semester, which would be anticlimactic anyway if you're playing villanova and Penn state then can't play A10 games. Garland is done in '14.
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Post by explorerman on Apr 16, 2013 23:29:36 GMT -5
I think Tyrone has two full years of eligibility left. He played his freshman year in 2010-11 for Virginia Tech, then only played the first semester of his sophomore 2011-12 season. He sat out the second semester of 2011-12 and the first semester of 2012-13, before playing with La Salle for the 2nd semester this season. So he has only played the equivalent of 2 seasons, and thus has two seasons left. Here is Dick Jerardi's original article about Tyrone Garland's signing: articles.philly.com/2011-12-22/sports/30547239_1_salle-coach-john-giannini-la-salle-transfersHe will end up playing parts of 5 straight seasons, and be a 5th year senior in 2014-15. Incorrect sir! They really don't allow December grads to play an extra semester, which would be anticlimactic anyway if you're playing villanova and Penn state then can't play A10 games. Garland is done in '14. This is absolutely correct
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 23:31:02 GMT -5
Hykos is right on all counts. Tyrone has next season and he's done. As unfair as it may seem, playing the first semester at Va Tech last year cost him a full year of eligibility. The new transfer will sit next season and have three years of eligibility to play after that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 5:46:42 GMT -5
Also, G put to rest a popular myth that we are good in the guards dept forever but need a big body.
In reality, it is the complete opposite. Tyreek and Sam and DJ must be replaced a full year ahead of Jerrell and Steve. G needs guards fast.
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Post by bernards on Apr 17, 2013 6:01:48 GMT -5
Also, G put to rest a popular myth that we are good in the guards dept forever but need a big body. In reality, it is the complete opposite. Tyreek and Sam and DJ must be replaced a full year ahead of Jerrell and Steve. G needs guards fast. Well put Hykos!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 8:09:28 GMT -5
Also, G put to rest a popular myth that we are good in the guards dept forever but need a big body. In reality, it is the complete opposite. Tyreek, Sam, Tyrone, and Taylor and DJ must be replaced a full year ahead of Jerrell and Steve. G needs guards fast. Fixed that. DJ will be here for the 2014-15 season along with Jerrell and Steve. Guards are a priority, but the team is actually in pretty good shape already for 2014-15. DJ will be a senior. Amar steps in for Tyreek. Cleon steps in for Tyrone. Khalid moves up in the rotation and steps in for Sam. G can focus on getting one stud guard in the 2014 class to fill the fifth spot in the rotation. And he'll probably look to bring in two so that player can step in and take DJ's spot the following year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 8:42:30 GMT -5
Also, G put to rest a popular myth that we are good in the guards dept forever but need a big body. In reality, it is the complete opposite. Tyreek and Sam and DJ must be replaced a full year ahead of Jerrell and Steve. G needs guards fast. Well put Hykos! Thanks, but I was just paraphrasing the coach. I only asked G one question last night: do you still hear from your critics like we used to? What do they have to say now or have they disappeared? I figured once there was no more material, that these trolls would shrivel up like they had been suddenly struck by the light of day. Sadly, some appear to still be "pushing" G with their singular hateful agenda, like "let's see what you can do next year without xxx" (remember, exact same was said about this time last year) and "I'm not one of your supporters but nice job anyway I must say" and backhanded compliments like that. Screw you if you can't even let G enjoy this sweet16 run which he and the players earned. Screw you.
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Post by cva43 on Apr 17, 2013 9:07:47 GMT -5
I wonder if these critics signed their name?
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Post by calsufan on Apr 17, 2013 9:52:21 GMT -5
Thanks, but I was just paraphrasing the coach. I only asked G one question last night: do you still hear from your critics like we used to? What do they have to say now or have they disappeared? I figured once there was no more material, that these trolls would shrivel up like they had been suddenly struck by the light of day. Sadly, some appear to still be "pushing" G with their singular hateful agenda, like "let's see what you can do next year without xxx" (remember, exact same was said about this time last year) and "I'm not one of your supporters but nice job anyway I must say" and backhanded compliments like that.Screw you if you can't even let G enjoy this sweet16 run which he and the players earned. Screw you. That sounds like a "bummy" thing to say.
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Post by bernards on Apr 17, 2013 11:38:50 GMT -5
I'm disappointed there was no news on G's contract for next year. Am I the only one worried at this point?
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Post by big5vet on Apr 17, 2013 12:17:34 GMT -5
I'm disappointed too and also over the dead silence concerning you know what ... the "F" word Facilities. Mike's glowing comments about the team and how their on/off court performance reflect favorably on the Uand "G" remarks regarding the amount o f support he receives from the administration, I'd be knocked over to later learn that the two sides haven't been working in good faith on an extention. Hope this isn't naivete on my part. It just felt like Coach is "all in" right now.
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Post by calsufan on Apr 17, 2013 12:25:29 GMT -5
I'm disappointed there was no news on G's contract for next year. Am I the only one worried at this point? I'm not worried, but I am disappointed. Last night would have been the perfect time to announce it. I was sitting there at our table and we kept waiting and waiting for that announcement.
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Post by lasallerules1978 on Apr 17, 2013 17:55:33 GMT -5
Pretty sure you only get two years. There is a price to pay when transferring unless their is a hardship waiver involved, at least that is what the rules were. I am confused... why would he get punished? You get punished by sitting out a year. But if transferring costs you a year then how does Lewis have 3 years of eligibility? Both players transferred before their 2nd year started.. You have 5 years to play 4 years of a certain sport By the way, I am right in this matter.. Only mention Lewis because it provides a like example to Roberts.. I was wrong. By punishment I just meant the NCAA is trying to deter transferring. if you didn't have to sit out a year, kids might be more inclined to transfer after their Freshman year if they felt they weren't getting enough "PT". Jim Boeheim thinks the rules are too lenient as they stand, I obviously don't know enough to debate the issue, but I would say he is quite biased considering he has top 50 recruits sitting as Sophomores that become big time contributors as Juniors and would like to protect himself from losing key role players. I understand both sides, coaches invest a lot of time recruiting these kids and kids are promised the world during the recruitment period. Kids also can be dropped like a bad habit see DJ Newbill.
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Post by 20thandolney on Apr 17, 2013 18:08:33 GMT -5
Jim Boeheim is a terrible human being.
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Post by gymrat67 on Apr 18, 2013 10:13:57 GMT -5
Miscellaneous, random ( but relevant ) Info gleaned from my discussions with several sources at Tuesday night's basketball banquet :
1. The University has moved away from the original concept to build the new Business school building as an Addition / extension to College Hall on the site of the current David L. Lawrence administration building ( ie, old/former Library ), in favor of an approx. $40 million stand - alone new Business School building. University has received proposals / preliminary conceptual drawings from several architectural Firms in response to LaSalle's RFP. Question now is where to build it ? Current leading proposed site is south of Connolly Library on site of tennis courts. Other possible locations are on South campus or the PA National Guard Armory site.
2. The University has acquired ( or shortly will complete the acquisition of ) the former PA National Guard Armory site on Ogontz Avenue. Among other benefits, this will provide additional access to the campus off of Ogontz Ave.
3. The University has requested ( and received ) a preliminary structural survey regarding the feasability of and projected cost of doing a short term, interim renovation of Hayman / Gola to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court to the opposite ( East / West ) direction, which would conceptually provide additional seating behind the baskets at either end. The initial, preliminary structural feasibility study received thus far suggests that the projected cost of upgrading / bolstering the current structural members and design of Hayman Center, within the existing bulding footprint, may be prohibitively expensive for a short term, interim fix as initially envisioned. The University has asked the A/E ( Ewing Cole, who did the 1998 retrofit ? ) to " go back to the drawing board " and, hopefully, come up with a feasible, affordable solution.
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Post by jellybean on Apr 18, 2013 10:44:31 GMT -5
Miscellaneous, random ( but relevant ) Info gleaned from my discussions with several sources at Tuesday night's basketball banquet : 1. The University has moved away from the original concept to build the new Business school building as an Addition / extension to College Hall on the site of the current David L. Lawrence administration building ( ie, old/former Library ), in favor of an approx. $40 million stand - alone new Business School building. University has received proposals / preliminary conceptual drawings from several architectural Firms in response to LaSalle's RFP. Question now is where to build it ? Current leading proposed site is south of Connolly Library on site of tennis courts. Other possible locations are on South campus or the PA National Guard Armory site. 2. The University has acquired ( or shortly will complete the acquisition of ) the former PA National Guard Armory site on Ogontz Avenue. Among other benefits, this will provide additional access to the campus off of Ogontz Ave. 3. The University has requested ( and received ) a preliminary structural survey regarding the feasability of and projected cost of doing a short term, interim renovation of Hayman / Gola to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court to the opposite ( East / West ) direction, which would conceptually provide additional seating behind the baskets at either end. The initial, preliminary structural feasibility study received thus far suggests that the projected cost of upgrading / bolstering the current structural members and design of Hayman Center, within the existing bulding footprint, may be prohibitively expensive for a short term, interim fix as initially envisioned. The University has asked the A/E ( Ewing Cole, who did the 1998 retrofit ? ) to " go back to the drawing board " and, hopefully, come up with a feasible, affordable solution. Thanks for the imput. 1. Interesting. I had heard the original plan for extension was $25 million. This appears to me that fundraising went better than expected? Enough of a commitment to build a stand alone building for nearly twice the amount. Shame if Tennis Courts were to go. 2. I don't see how the Armory would give us that much greater access off Ogontz. Unless they are talking about building a high rise parking lot with bridge to South campus. There was talk of making that property an fitness center where you would enter the building from the top floor (bridge from South campus near baseball field). 3. Lots of whispers Tuesday night about turning the court. Let me add that I heard some properties acquired over the years seem to be ready for various types of construction or renovation.
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Post by mookie on Apr 18, 2013 12:41:42 GMT -5
Miscellaneous, random ( but relevant ) Info gleaned from my discussions with several sources at Tuesday night's basketball banquet : 1. The University has moved away from the original concept to build the new Business school building as an Addition / extension to College Hall on the site of the current David L. Lawrence administration building ( ie, old/former Library ), in favor of an approx. $40 million stand - alone new Business School building. University has received proposals / preliminary conceptual drawings from several architectural Firms in response to LaSalle's RFP. Question now is where to build it ? Current leading proposed site is south of Connolly Library on site of tennis courts. Other possible locations are on South campus or the PA National Guard Armory site. 2. The University has acquired ( or shortly will complete the acquisition of ) the former PA National Guard Armory site on Ogontz Avenue. Among other benefits, this will provide additional access to the campus off of Ogontz Ave. 3. The University has requested ( and received ) a preliminary structural survey regarding the feasability of and projected cost of doing a short term, interim renovation of Hayman / Gola to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court to the opposite ( East / West ) direction, which would conceptually provide additional seating behind the baskets at either end. The initial, preliminary structural feasibility study received thus far suggests that the projected cost of upgrading / bolstering the current structural members and design of Hayman Center, within the existing bulding footprint, may be prohibitively expensive for a short term, interim fix as initially envisioned. The University has asked the A/E ( Ewing Cole, who did the 1998 retrofit ? ) to " go back to the drawing board " and, hopefully, come up with a feasible, affordable solution. 1 - Who cares about tennis anyway? Just kidding. Not sure if that would mean dropping the program or building new courts elsewhere. 2 - I thought this was done already??? Or maybe it's just been in the works for quite a while now? 3 - I do not want to see an interim solution. To me, interim is just delaying what needs to be done and upgraded facilities should not be limited to the structure of the court, but rather an overall improvement to the athletic facilities (ie. weight room, lockers, media room, etc). I think LaSalle could keep Gola as is and let it be used for indoor practices for other programs and intramurals with a new arena built altogether. However, I would imagine the arena to be close in proximity to the townhouses because let's face it, the basketball players spend a lot of time in that vicinity anyway (summer sessions, etc). Although, an arena closer to South Campus and/or where the armory is does make it a shorter walk from Broad and the subway for those who are travelling from other parts of the city...
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Post by jellybean on Apr 18, 2013 12:53:41 GMT -5
My concern was not dropping the sport but the open space and view of the farm. They would have to relocate the tennis courts. Students need some place to have recreation too.
As I stated before, my wish would be to see the school demolish the dorms next to Haymen and build an addition which would house the arena. Make it a sports complex. They need to find land (maybe on Hospital property) for a larger and more modern dorm (so we can take advantage of the enrollment bump).
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Post by explorerman on Apr 18, 2013 13:28:43 GMT -5
Miscellaneous, random ( but relevant ) Info gleaned from my discussions with several sources at Tuesday night's basketball banquet : 1. The University has moved away from the original concept to build the new Business school building as an Addition / extension to College Hall on the site of the current David L. Lawrence administration building ( ie, old/former Library ), in favor of an approx. $40 million stand - alone new Business School building. University has received proposals / preliminary conceptual drawings from several architectural Firms in response to LaSalle's RFP. Question now is where to build it ? Current leading proposed site is south of Connolly Library on site of tennis courts. Other possible locations are on South campus or the PA National Guard Armory site. 2. The University has acquired ( or shortly will complete the acquisition of ) the former PA National Guard Armory site on Ogontz Avenue. Among other benefits, this will provide additional access to the campus off of Ogontz Ave. 3. The University has requested ( and received ) a preliminary structural survey regarding the feasability of and projected cost of doing a short term, interim renovation of Hayman / Gola to rotate the orientation of the main basketball court to the opposite ( East / West ) direction, which would conceptually provide additional seating behind the baskets at either end. The initial, preliminary structural feasibility study received thus far suggests that the projected cost of upgrading / bolstering the current structural members and design of Hayman Center, within the existing bulding footprint, may be prohibitively expensive for a short term, interim fix as initially envisioned. The University has asked the A/E ( Ewing Cole, who did the 1998 retrofit ? ) to " go back to the drawing board " and, hopefully, come up with a feasible, affordable solution. 1 - Who cares about tennis anyway? Just kidding. Not sure if that would mean dropping the program or building new courts elsewhere. 2 - I thought this was done already??? Or maybe it's just been in the works for quite a while now? 3 - I do not want to see an interim solution. To me, interim is just delaying what needs to be done and upgraded facilities should not be limited to the structure of the court, but rather an overall improvement to the athletic facilities (ie. weight room, lockers, media room, etc). I think LaSalle could keep Gola as is and let it be used for indoor practices for other programs and intramurals with a new arena built altogether. However, I would imagine the arena to be close in proximity to the townhouses because let's face it, the basketball players spend a lot of time in that vicinity anyway (summer sessions, etc). Although, an arena closer to South Campus and/or where the armory is does make it a shorter walk from Broad and the subway for those who are travelling from other parts of the city... This has been discussed on a previous thread right in the expansion threads: 1) The bond for the B-school building has been already done and has expanded La Salle debt ratio to the limit. So no loans will be issued for a building. 2) The armory is not completed yet but will be over the summer. Private sale and the building will not be useable. Parking lot will be and the school owns the rights on the hill to be able to connect the property to the campus. 3) This will be the short term fix. That could be done over the summer.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Apr 18, 2013 16:13:08 GMT -5
The beauty of the armory property is that it does provide potential for La Salle to develop a true "Entrance" to the campus from Broad Street via Somerville - if they can extend a roadway to DeVincent field and that roadway it might make for a nice entrance to the middle of campus
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