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Post by explorer88 on Apr 2, 2013 14:13:48 GMT -5
Tyler McLeodI saw this mentioned 2 weeks ago and I could never find a credible source or quotes from the kid but this story has quotes from him stating La Salle is in his final 3. I just find it odd that G would take a high school guard with just 2 scholsrships and a logjam at the position. Buffalo just hired Bobby Hurley and the Bonnies have some available time so perhaps we are down in the pecking order anyway given our depth there. Interesting anyway.
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Post by mikesmd77 on Apr 2, 2013 14:30:00 GMT -5
May be a fallback option for G, I trust his ability to find guards who fit the system. With that said, we should be shooting for a bigger splash given our recent success... I really hope we can scoop one of Aaron Brown/Jaylen Bond who will most likely be looking to come home...
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Post by explorerman on Apr 2, 2013 18:05:29 GMT -5
We have been listed with him for a while.. and for a while we were the only school offering him..
I have never seen him but everything that I have heard about him is that the kid can shoot. If there is something that I would be concerned about regarding our next wave of guards is perimeter shooting.. It opens up defenses to the dribble penetration...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 21:17:38 GMT -5
I don't know this to be fact, but I have to believe the offer to McLeod is dependent on him agreeing to redshirt. There are just no backcourt minutes to be had next year. Duren, Garland, Mills, Peterson, and Khalid Lewis will be the guard rotation. No way that G brings in a freshman guard to take minutes away from any of them unless it's a program-changer like Rysheed Jordan, and that's not happening.
There's a decent amount of video available of McLeod, and he looks pretty talented to me. G's track record at identifying underrecruited talent is pretty good, so if he thinks this kid is worthy of a scholarship, I'd be happy to have him. Have him and Amar Stukes both do redshirt years getting stronger and practicing against the 2013-14 guard rotation and then they along with either an impact transfer or a stud 2014 guard recruit can step into the 2014-15 guard rotation with Peterson and Lewis.
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Post by lasalle89 on Apr 2, 2013 22:22:00 GMT -5
I was watching a sports show and they were talking about the free agency of college sports. If G keeps a nice mix of 4 year players mixed with transfers we can be solid. Throw in an occasional foreign stud and we can really rock. My question is is this heavy guard rotation here to stay or does he keep switching it up like he did his first 5 years? I know its easier when you lock down a system then recruit to fill in your needs.
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Post by 20thandolney on Apr 2, 2013 22:25:24 GMT -5
I was watching a sports show and they were talking about the free agency of college sports. If G keeps a nice mix of 4 year players mixed with transfers we can be solid. Throw in an occasional foreign stud and we can really rock. My question is is this heavy guard rotation here to stay or does he keep switching it up like he did his first 5 years? I know its easier when you lock down a system then recruit to fill in your needs. I think they will always be guard heavy. G compared guards to QBs and said big men are a luxury. Now I think it is possible he goes to two big men some years but I expect that the focus will be on the guards. |
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Post by scarletexplorer on Apr 2, 2013 22:32:24 GMT -5
Guards are fine, but what about a small forward? We don't need people who are 6'10" necessarily, just a stout guy that crashes the boards. I'd rather go back to a 3 guard, SF, C/PF offense than the four guard we were running this year.
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Post by explorerman on Apr 3, 2013 9:15:36 GMT -5
Guards are fine, but what about a small forward? We don't need people who are 6'10" necessarily, just a stout guy that crashes the boards. I'd rather go back to a 3 guard, SF, C/PF offense than the four guard we were running this year. The 4 guard is the only reason why we made it to the Sweet Sixteen... We were not going to defend our way to the Sweet Sixteen, we were going to outscore our opponents.. It created matchup problems for other teams by spacing them out.. You can't space them out if you have two players in the low blocks... There just isn't enough space to finish around the hoop College Basketball is a guard's game... If G wants to start going with 3 guards, Wright and Zack, I will absolutely have zero objection but Lewis should be the first sub on and it should be for which ever big is in foul trouble.. My biggest concern about spreading them out is perimeter shooting.. Garland is an average shooter, Mills finished strong but started poorly and relied on other's creating shots, Duren is a spot up shooter who is also streaky and Lewis, while reports state that he is focusing on shooting in his sit out year and is improving, was a 27% 3 point shooter at Delaware (well below average). If you can not shoot from the perimeter, then you can not spread out teams as they will sit back and fill in the paint and dare you to shoot.. His was one of the biggest attributes that Galloway provided.. |
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 3, 2013 9:20:00 GMT -5
G doesn't want a small forward. He has shown time and time again he is committed to dribble, drive, shoot, and pass guards and true big men. After getting to the Sweet 16 I don't think he changes the recipe at all. I personally think we need a small forward but I don't see him going after one unless he had a shot at some truly special. Then again a truly special small forward could probably do a lot of things he wants a guard to do.
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Post by scarletexplorer on Apr 3, 2013 9:27:51 GMT -5
If G doesn't want someone big that slows the tempo of the offense, fine, but I'd like to see someone in there who could really clean the glass so it's not just Jerrell or the odd long rebound that goes straight into our hands. The WSU game was a perfect example, there were so many second chances that we could have put back up if we had someone in there down low. I can't fault Garland, Mills and Duren for being short, there's nothing they can do on those plays.
Getting someone Roosevelt Jones-ish would be a perfect complement.
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Post by explorerman on Apr 3, 2013 9:30:28 GMT -5
Also I agree with the sediment that the offer for Tyler is with red shirt considerations..
Allow to work out for a year with Amar and build a relationship.. As a result, they will not be true freshman guards.. They will be battle tested!
Tyler does bring perimeter shooting and penetration so offensively he should be able to create his own shot in a spread offense...
I would want to know why he was suspended for a month this season..
Having Stukes and McLeod redshirted with Lewis (junior) is an interesting mix of guards.. Peterson could swing also into the 3.. But what makes that guard rotation most comfortable for me is that we will have 2 senior low post players running the team..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 11:01:23 GMT -5
G will only recruit a small forward if that player in his opinion is a special talent. As of the fall signing period, there were only two of them in the 2013 class that he seriously considered, and it was probably because they had both guard and forward skills. One was Jamel Artis. The other one he backed off because of chemistry/attitude concerns.
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Post by Gnocchi on Apr 3, 2013 13:06:45 GMT -5
Guards are fine, but what about a small forward? We don't need people who are 6'10" necessarily, just a stout guy that crashes the boards. I'd rather go back to a 3 guard, SF, C/PF offense than the four guard we were running this year. The 4 guard is the only reason why we made it to the Sweet Sixteen... We were not going to defend our way to the Sweet Sixteen, we were going to outscore our opponents.. It created matchup problems for other teams by spacing them out.. You can't space them out if you have two players in the low blocks... There just isn't enough space to finish around the hoop College Basketball is a guard's game... If G wants to start going with 3 guards, Wright and Zack, I will absolutely have zero objection but Lewis should be the first sub on and it should be for which ever big is in foul trouble.. My biggest concern about spreading them out is perimeter shooting.. Garland is an average shooter, Mills finished strong but started poorly and relied on other's creating shots, Duren is a spot up shooter who is also streaky and Lewis, while reports state that he is focusing on shooting in his sit out year and is improving, was a 27% 3 point shooter at Delaware (well below average). If you can not shoot from the perimeter, then you can not spread out teams as they will sit back and fill in the paint and dare you to shoot.. This was one of the biggest attributes that Galloway provided.. Especially re Galloway, nice piece of analysis. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Apr 3, 2013 13:22:21 GMT -5
Guards are fine, but what about a small forward? We don't need people who are 6'10" necessarily, just a stout guy that crashes the boards. I'd rather go back to a 3 guard, SF, C/PF offense than the four guard we were running this year. The 4 guard is the only reason why we made it to the Sweet Sixteen... We were not going to defend our way to the Sweet Sixteen, we were going to outscore our opponents.. It created matchup problems for other teams by spacing them out.. You can't space them out if you have two players in the low blocks... There just isn't enough space to finish around the hoop College Basketball is a guard's game... If G wants to start going with 3 guards, Wright and Zack, I will absolutely have zero objection but Lewis should be the first sub on and it should be for which ever big is in foul trouble.. My biggest concern about spreading them out is perimeter shooting.. Garland is an average shooter, Mills finished strong but started poorly and relied on other's creating shots, Duren is a spot up shooter who is also streaky and Lewis, while reports state that he is focusing on shooting in his sit out year and is improving, was a 27% 3 point shooter at Delaware (well below average). If you can not shoot from the perimeter, then you can not spread out teams as they will sit back and fill in the paint and dare you to shoot.. His was one of the biggest attributes that Galloway provided.. THis makes Jerrell's ability to develop some game from 12-15 feet even more important because he can then aid in the floor spacing when we see them go with 2 bigs out there. It will force the opponent's 4-man to step a little further from the basket. Either that or Steve need sto develop that foul line jumper as he was often in the high post facilitating a lot of the offense. if defenses have to be honest and come guard him out there it will open a lane for a guy to cut to the basket. Steve is definitely an above average passer. Bottom line is that 1 of the 2 bigs needs to be able to shoot a little bit next season. hopefully it's Jerrell b/c defenses will key on him regardless and if he can draw the defense away a few feet it will eliminate the possibility of help defense getting back to stop a penetrating guard in the lane |
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Post by explorerman on Apr 3, 2013 13:49:24 GMT -5
The 4 guard is the only reason why we made it to the Sweet Sixteen... We were not going to defend our way to the Sweet Sixteen, we were going to outscore our opponents.. It created matchup problems for other teams by spacing them out.. You can't space them out if you have two players in the low blocks... There just isn't enough space to finish around the hoop College Basketball is a guard's game... If G wants to start going with 3 guards, Wright and Zack, I will absolutely have zero objection but Lewis should be the first sub on and it should be for which ever big is in foul trouble.. My biggest concern about spreading them out is perimeter shooting.. Garland is an average shooter, Mills finished strong but started poorly and relied on other's creating shots, Duren is a spot up shooter who is also streaky and Lewis, while reports state that he is focusing on shooting in his sit out year and is improving, was a 27% 3 point shooter at Delaware (well below average). If you can not shoot from the perimeter, then you can not spread out teams as they will sit back and fill in the paint and dare you to shoot.. His was one of the biggest attributes that Galloway provided.. THis makes Jerrell's ability to develop some game from 12-15 feet even more important because he can then aid in the floor spacing when we see them go with 2 bigs out there. It will force the opponent's 4-man to step a little further from the basket. Either that or Steve need sto develop that foul line jumper as he was often in the high post facilitating a lot of the offense. if defenses have to be honest and come guard him out there it will open a lane for a guy to cut to the basket. Steve is definitely an above average passer. Bottom line is that 1 of the 2 bigs needs to be able to shoot a little bit next season. hopefully it's Jerrell b/c defenses will key on him regardless and if he can draw the defense away a few feet it will eliminate the possibility of help defense getting back to stop a penetrating guard in the lane Zack can shoot in the free throw line area. He shot 71% from the line. I will take a 50+% FG from that area at least to keep teams honest. |
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Post by lasalle89 on Apr 3, 2013 19:27:34 GMT -5
Who are the other 2 finalist on his list?
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 3, 2013 19:29:59 GMT -5
Who are the other 2 finalist on his list? St. Bonaventure and Buffalo. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 20:39:07 GMT -5
Nice article on Stukes who has bought into the redshirt year. cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/ncaa-success-inspires-future-explorer-stukes/If G is serious in his pursuit of McLeod, hopefully he will see the same advantages of a redshirt year as Amar. It would be nice to have 4/5 of the 2014-15 backcourt in place this early. G could then focus on either an impact transfer or a stud 2014 recruit for the fifth spot in the rotation. Would love to see him land Austin Tilghman which would give him a shot at Top 100 big man Ben Bentil. |
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Post by coachd on Apr 24, 2013 10:47:56 GMT -5
Are we still going after McLeod?
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Post by explorerman on Apr 24, 2013 11:04:36 GMT -5
Are we still going after McLeod? I don't see how unless someone is leaving. Dunn transferring? |
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Post by coqui900 on Apr 24, 2013 11:09:17 GMT -5
I don't see a way Dunn would transfer. He's a huge part of the team's chemistry. He also had a lot of music stuff going on around Philly supposedly.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 24, 2013 11:13:32 GMT -5
Dunn isn't the guy I would have guessed, but I don't want to guess specifically because that sort of baseless speculation seems wrong.
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Post by bummy on Apr 24, 2013 11:15:56 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding.
It is always the same cast of characters
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Post by mookie on Apr 24, 2013 11:29:50 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding. It is always the same cast of characters no...we do it everytime with you in mind |
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Post by mookie on Apr 24, 2013 11:30:50 GMT -5
Is Dunn viewed as a player that will eventually be playing 20mpg or something? I honestly don't see his role expanding much more than it currently is unless he's forced into action (injury, etc).
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Post by MisterD on Apr 24, 2013 11:46:32 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding. It is always the same cast of characters |
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Post by theneumann64 on Apr 24, 2013 12:16:46 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding. It is always the same cast of characters |
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Post by crayzeeguy on Apr 24, 2013 12:58:02 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding. It is always the same cast of characters |
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Post by explorerman on Apr 24, 2013 13:21:02 GMT -5
Do you guys keep quoting each other to make the threads look like there is a lot of people responding. It is always the same cast of characters |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 15:44:32 GMT -5
I just saw an article on timesunion.com dated 12/12/12 covering a game that McLeod's team lost .The article mentioned that McLeod did not play, as he was suspended from the team (no reason given in the article) until 1/2/2013
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