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Post by 1801olney on Nov 13, 2024 7:44:18 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 13, 2024 8:29:42 GMT -5
This can remain here for now, but I won't hesitate to move it if it gets out of hand. Thanks.
Hanycz's tenure does not pass the smell test and I say this as someone who liked her. But La Salle is not alone in these troubles and, I truly believe, we started in a weaker position than most. There was no movement during those years though and things seem to be progressing in a better direction now.
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Post by 1801olney on Nov 13, 2024 9:25:55 GMT -5
Yes, a discussion about the financial health and success of the university should definitely be moved to the Off Topic board with the tracking of the Kelce brothers every move and New York Giants football discussion.
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Post by explorerman on Nov 13, 2024 9:38:29 GMT -5
If you are blaming Colleen solely for this problem, I can comfortably say that you really do not have a clue, and probably should educate yourself more before commenting, about higher education in the mid-Atlantic/northeast corridor or who the players were at La Salle who had the chance to do something before this structural-demographic issue came, which was known to school leadership even before she stepped foot on campus.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 13, 2024 9:43:40 GMT -5
I have watched La Salle struggle to make common sense decisions for decades. A lot of people have played a part in where we are now.
Good news is it seems we have some people in place that can change things. For this I am hopeful.
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Post by 1801olney on Nov 13, 2024 9:59:18 GMT -5
Not solely blaming for sure. But she was the first lay person hire. She needed to do better. Instead we got dogs in dorms and Adirondack chairs on the quad. Tuition reset failed and she rolled.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 13, 2024 10:00:44 GMT -5
Not solely blaming for sure. But she was the first lay person hire. She needed to do better. Instead we got dogs in dorms and Adirondack chairs on the quad. Tuition reset failed and she rolled. We forget about the art sale. People lost their minds over that. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 13, 2024 12:03:13 GMT -5
Yes, a discussion about the financial health and success of the university should definitely be moved to the Off Topic board with the tracking of the Kelce brothers every move and New York Giants football discussion. Just said don't let it get out of hand. That's all man. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 13, 2024 12:30:31 GMT -5
I think she ran the school into the ground. Now it may have been heading for a crash landing, but she hit the accelerator. In hindsight, would a Brother have been less traumatic?
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Post by calsufan on Nov 13, 2024 12:58:54 GMT -5
I think she ran the school into the ground. Now it may have been heading for a crash landing, but she hit the accelerator. In hindsight, would a Brother have been less traumatic? Another Brother would have been just as or even more disastrous. The landscape changed over the last 20 years and we didn't react, instead we pretty much treaded water. In hindsight, Colleen was not a good hire, but her predecessors weren't steering the boat, they were bailing water. We also don't know what the board of directors role (past and present), decisions etc. played a hand in all of this. I think La Salle had been myopic for decades. |
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Post by explorerburger on Nov 13, 2024 13:55:05 GMT -5
I think she ran the school into the ground. Now it may have been heading for a crash landing, but she hit the accelerator. In hindsight, would a Brother have been less traumatic? Another Brother would have been just as or even more disastrous. The landscape changed over the last 20 years and we didn't react, instead we pretty much treaded water. In hindsight, Colleen was not a good hire, but her predecessors weren't steering the boat, they were bailing water. We also don't know what the board of directors role (past and present), decisions etc. played a hand in all of this. I think La Salle had been myopic for decades. A thousand times, this. I wish the older version of this board was archived, and we could revisit the many, MANY discussions about fiscal mismanagement and the sad state of the endowment under Bro's Joe and Mike. Bad choices were made. Opportunities were lost. Decisions were postponed. We live with the consequences of all of this to this day. (And based upon how Brother Patrick is remembered at Catholic U, I have some serious doubts that his administrative style would have been effective in the modern era). I recall someone saying that when you compare ourselves to St. Joe's the evidence seemed clear that Christian Brothers simply do not have a mind for money the way that Jesuits do. I still think about this from time to time. I agree with most posters that Colleen was not the right hire. That said, it's weird to me that she is the sole poster child for the 25 years of poor leadership that preceded her. |
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Post by explorerman on Nov 13, 2024 14:05:26 GMT -5
Another Brother would have been just as or even more disastrous. The landscape changed over the last 20 years and we didn't react, instead we pretty much treaded water. In hindsight, Colleen was not a good hire, but her predecessors weren't steering the boat, they were bailing water. We also don't know what the board of directors role (past and present), decisions etc. played a hand in all of this. I think La Salle had been myopic for decades. A thousand times, this. I wish the older version of this board was archived, and we could revisit the many, MANY discussions about fiscal mismanagement and the sad state of the endowment under Bro's Joe and Mike. Bad choices were made. Opportunities were lost. Decisions were postponed. We live with the consequences of all of this to this day. (And based upon how Brother Patrick is remembered at Catholic U, I have some serious doubts that his administrative style would have been effective in the modern era). I recall someone saying that when you compare ourselves to St. Joe's the evidence seemed clear that Christian Brothers simply do not have a mind for money the way that Jesuits do. I still think about this from time to time. I agree with most posters that Colleen was not the right hire. That said, it's weird to me that she is the sole poster child for the 25 years of poor leadership that preceded her. People who do not know or are "low-information" generally lash out first and learn second. Or just continue speaking without ever taking the time to listen. Has been a great principle to lean on in my business practice over the decades.. I wish people knew of the battles that went on in the back corner of second floor Union Building.. |
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Post by hoopsguest on Nov 13, 2024 15:15:12 GMT -5
Why is that La Salle University struggles while at the HS level schools like La Salle College HS, CBA of NJ, St John’s of DC, and Calvert Hall are thriving? All run by the same religious order
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Nov 13, 2024 15:25:12 GMT -5
Logan/Germantown
Larry Krasner/Jim Kenny
Talk about a combo that ran something into the ground.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 13, 2024 15:51:23 GMT -5
Why is that La Salle University struggles while at the HS level schools like La Salle College HS, CBA of NJ, St John’s of DC, and Calvert Hall are thriving? All run by the same religious order I assume its because being a top HS in a densely populated area is "easier" than being a university in the same area. Most people don't send HS kids away so the radius to find competition is naturally stronger. (Unless you're a blue route kid of decent means, then you're going somewhere in Wilmington.) |
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Post by explorerman on Nov 13, 2024 15:55:58 GMT -5
Much much much cheaper to run a high school compared to college...
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Post by MisterD on Nov 13, 2024 15:56:49 GMT -5
I don't know why my fingers wrote "naturally stronger" when my brain was hoping for "naturally smaller". Don't look into that one.
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Post by hoopsguest on Nov 13, 2024 18:33:53 GMT -5
Much much much cheaper to run a high school compared to college... That’s true. I went to one of the high schools on that list. The alumni outreach and communication is so much better than La Salle University’s outreach |
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Post by explorers2013 on Nov 13, 2024 22:40:06 GMT -5
I also went to one of the high schools on that last and can confidently say the alumni outreach, facilities (pre-Glaser) and probably even endowment are better than La Salle.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 13, 2024 22:52:36 GMT -5
Why is that La Salle University struggles while at the HS level schools like La Salle College HS, CBA of NJ, St John’s of DC, and Calvert Hall are thriving? All run by the same religious order because they are elite suburban high schools and not urban colleges? |
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Post by hoopsguest on Nov 14, 2024 8:17:58 GMT -5
Why is that La Salle University struggles while at the HS level schools like La Salle College HS, CBA of NJ, St John’s of DC, and Calvert Hall are thriving? All run by the same religious order because they are elite suburban high schools and not urban colleges? Calvert Hall and St John’s are not urban but they aren’t exactly suburban either. They are kind of in between |
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Post by las71 on Nov 14, 2024 8:35:33 GMT -5
I normally make a donation this time of year along with donations for annual day of giving. Please note they will not be naming a building after me! My question for the group is that I normally direct my gifts to mens basketball and wonder if it best serves the school to direct it to the general fund. Thoughts?
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Post by nealum on Nov 14, 2024 8:40:41 GMT -5
The post by thelasallelunatic above is right on. Who would send their child to an urban school where the town politicians embrace "defund the police"? Safety is always a major concern.
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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on Nov 14, 2024 8:46:46 GMT -5
La Salle's outbound comms has been a consistent problem, though, I've been encouraged by the efforts in the past year from the Athletics department.
On the flip side, even the inbound comms is a problem. I've reached out on several occasions (to a variety of people/departments) in a professional capacity and either gotten no response (after many calls/follow ups) or ghosted. So even as an alum trying to support the University they haven't made it easy.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 14, 2024 8:55:07 GMT -5
I normally make a donation this time of year along with donations for annual day of giving. Please note they will not be naming a building after me! My question for the group is that I normally direct my gifts to mens basketball and wonder if it best serves the school to direct it to the general fund. Thoughts? There was a big problem about 5 or 6 years ago where people donated to specific departments and the money was then taken from the departments and used in other areas. I only know this from being on the advisory board for the computer science department and one gentleman's gift specifically to that department was taken and used for other things (at the direction of she who shall not be named). He hasn't given since. I just had a conversation with him last week about how to give and have it go where he wants. The way to avoid that is to give specifically to endowed funds. Fiscal rules don't allow that to be touched. For example, I generally give to basketball and to specific scholarship funds that are endowed (Brother Patrick Ellis scholarship, Dr. Stephen Longo scholarship, etc.). This allows your donation to directly help students with tuition aid and not be used in other areas that you didn't intend. |
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Post by hoopsguest on Nov 14, 2024 21:56:27 GMT -5
I had people say they have taken their kid to a tour and the admissions department is subpar. They need to clean up their act
As for if she who shall not be named redirected funds that were donated her term is indefensible. You simply don’t do that.
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Post by mookie on Nov 15, 2024 8:29:13 GMT -5
Much much much cheaper to run a high school compared to college... That’s true. I went to one of the high schools on that list. The alumni outreach and communication is so much better than La Salle University’s outreach Hope it wasn’t Calvert Hall |
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Post by explorerburger on Nov 15, 2024 16:37:09 GMT -5
Fun fact: Calvert Hall is located on La Salle Road in Towson.
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Post by coachd on Nov 17, 2024 10:56:28 GMT -5
What saddens me the most is that La Salle lost many good students to Saint Joe's. Many Explorer families will now be split between the Explorers (older) and Hawks (younger).
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 17, 2024 11:26:46 GMT -5
( November 17, 2024 ) Lead story on front page of today's Sunday Phila. Inquirer.
Page A3 : Full page Ad placed by La Salle University [ click on images to enlarge ]   |
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