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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 26, 2013 9:59:57 GMT -5
31. [52] Butler (9-4, 22-6) 35. [27] St. Louis (10-2, 21-5) 36. [22] VCU (10-3, 22-6) 37. [51] La Salle (9-4, 19-7) 41. [70] Temple (8-5, 19-8) 55. [88] UMass (7-6, 17-9) 60. [129] Charlotte (6-6, 18-8) 78. [86] Richmond (6-6, 16-11) 85. [84] St. Joe's (6-6, 15-10) 95. [85] Xavier (8-5, 15-11) 112. [105] St. Bonaventure (6-7, 13-13) 122. [75] Dayton (4-8, 14-12) 135. [103] GW (6-6, 12-13) 191. [169] Rhode Island (3-10, 8-18) 219. [230] Duquesne (1-12, 8-19) 229. [245] Fordham (2-11, 6-22)
Explorers Weekly Schedule:
- .vs. Duquesne - 219th
rankings are from realtimerpi.com and bracketed rankings are from kenpom.com
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 26, 2013 10:26:20 GMT -5
Root, root root for the Bulllldogs. That gets us into second place AND pushes up their and our RPI. And whoever the Bonnies play. And Richmond.
Winning out and a St. Louis win makes us a Top 30 RPI team maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 12:11:03 GMT -5
Thanks to Villanova's choke job last night, La Salle's RPI dropped two spots to 39 and Temple's one spot to 42. Even worse, Villanova's RPI only dropped from 53 to 54.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 26, 2013 12:16:50 GMT -5
Thanks to Villanova's choke job last night, La Salle's RPI dropped two spots to 39 and Temple's one spot to 42. Even worse, Villanova's RPI only dropped from 53 to 54. Frankly, the Nova loss was better for us.. It seems people are not really looking at RPI as much to the point that 3-4 spot move truly hurts us... Case in point.. Villanova has a mid 50s RPI and in some brackets is ahead of us.. Middle Tennessee has a RPI in the mid 20s and Lunardi has said if they do not win the tournament they have a 25% chance of making the field...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 13:55:07 GMT -5
Thanks to Villanova's choke job last night, La Salle's RPI dropped two spots to 39 and Temple's one spot to 42. Even worse, Villanova's RPI only dropped from 53 to 54. Frankly, the Nova loss was better for us.. It seems people are not really looking at RPI as much to the point that 3-4 spot move truly hurts us... Case in point.. Villanova has a mid 50s RPI and in some brackets is ahead of us.. Middle Tennessee has a RPI in the mid 20s and Lunardi has said if they do not win the tournament they have a 25% chance of making the field... So how is it that Villanova, whose RPI is currently 15 spots behind La Salle, who has a worse record (4-6) against Top 50 teams than La Salle (2-2), and who lost a head-to-head matchup against La Salle, is getting seeded higher than La Salle in some brackets? Do you think conference affiliation has anything to do with that because I can't seem to find any other reason.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 26, 2013 14:05:10 GMT -5
Holding two wins against top-5 teams (at that time) probably doesn't hurt.
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Post by goexplorers on Feb 26, 2013 14:05:24 GMT -5
They have a worse record vs top 50 teams but they have more wins vs top 50 teams. Fair or unfair, but that's the way they tend to do it, since it shows who you're capable of beating.
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Post by goexplorers on Feb 26, 2013 14:09:42 GMT -5
Holding two wins against top-5 teams (at that time) probably doesn't hurt. Top 5 in the polls, especially "at the time", means nothing. The fact that they're 8th and 12th in the RPI is what matters. The win @ #29 RPI UConn was probably even more important, probably equalling out with ours at VCU. The Marquette win was big as well. We each have one very bad loss, both at home. We have a better record, but we have a 77 SoS and they have 34.
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 26, 2013 14:29:38 GMT -5
I don't know why anyone would buy into the B.S. regarding the Big Least but as long as we have sheeple the B.S. will continue. Nova should not even be mentioned with NCAA talk at this point with 11 losses which will eventually balloon to 14 by the time they complete their tournament. Is there anything money can't ruin ?
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Post by goexplorers on Feb 26, 2013 14:41:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying they belong in over us, I'm merely stating why I think they're still alive, at least as far as the committee is concerned. They have 2 huge tests in the final week, plus the BET. They can play their way in or out at this point. 13 loss teams have made it in before as at-large bids.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 26, 2013 14:58:04 GMT -5
Frankly, the Nova loss was better for us.. It seems people are not really looking at RPI as much to the point that 3-4 spot move truly hurts us... Case in point.. Villanova has a mid 50s RPI and in some brackets is ahead of us.. Middle Tennessee has a RPI in the mid 20s and Lunardi has said if they do not win the tournament they have a 25% chance of making the field... So how is it that Villanova, whose RPI is currently 15 spots behind La Salle, who has a worse record (4-6) against Top 50 teams than La Salle (2-2), and who lost a head-to-head matchup against La Salle, is getting seeded higher than La Salle in some brackets? Do you think conference affiliation has anything to do with that because I can't seem to find any other reason. 3-1 vs Top 25 RPI 0-1 vs Top 25 RPI Which one belongs to who?
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 26, 2013 15:44:02 GMT -5
Better question would be how in the hell are they (Nova - loser to La Salle and Temple) beating top twenty five teams when they don't belong there. Marquette (loser to Butler)is a fraud and Suckacuse (loser to Temple) is way over rated Look I hate te repeat myself but the A10 top 8 demolished The Big Least top eight yet what do you see top twenty five. People just vote on name recognition because they are ignorant and lazy which ends up hurting teams who really are worthy. If Butler and VCU did not accomplish what they had over the past few seasons they would be looked at far differently. Sad that bias is extreme for certain conferences.
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Post by cpico on Feb 26, 2013 16:02:40 GMT -5
So how is it that Villanova, whose RPI is currently 15 spots behind La Salle, who has a worse record (4-6) against Top 50 teams than La Salle (2-2), and who lost a head-to-head matchup against La Salle, is getting seeded higher than La Salle in some brackets? Do you think conference affiliation has anything to do with that because I can't seem to find any other reason. 3-1 vs Top 25 RPI 0-1 vs Top 25 RPI Which one belongs to who? Let's see. Nova has 11 losses. They lost to La Salle head to head. Lower RPI than us, lower BPI than us. Throw in a loss at home to Columbia also (to preempt anyone bringing up CCSU). And included in Nova's 18 win total is a win verse a non Division I team. So who do all those stats belong too?
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