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Post by nyalum on Feb 18, 2024 22:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by talkinbball on Feb 19, 2024 4:05:35 GMT -5
Also, illustrates once again, and mentions Georgetown and DePaul,(you can throw in Nova though not specifically mentioned) by name of the struggles that I see the "traditional" Catholic colleges who were once basketball powerhouses are going to have going forward in trying to weigh/balance their desire to be relevant in Athletics, while maintaining some semblance of Catholicism. The greed level of the haves are going to completely swallow college sports.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 19, 2024 7:47:09 GMT -5
Dude is lucky he is still coaching. He knew this before he took the job.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 19, 2024 8:04:44 GMT -5
He could've stayed at Iona and ruled the MAAC. Rick chose to make the jump again, play the portal game, it is what it is...
I will say this, his comments aren't wrong. We have the same conversations on this board about guys not guarding or getting to the foul line. Everyone thinks they are getting better adding transfers and older players, more often than not, it doesn't work out that way. I can count on 2 hands the amount of impact transfers that we've gotten over the past 15 years.
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Post by lasallejohn on Feb 19, 2024 8:32:36 GMT -5
Wah wah wah
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Post by 23won on Feb 19, 2024 9:33:05 GMT -5
You have to be smart and strategic. Teams have added impact transfers with positive results, namely Richmond ( who lost one of the top few A10 players), VCU (lost whole team), Loyola Chicago, Bonnies to a degree in A10; Seton Hall in BE; Charlotte, Memphis in AAC; Bryant which certainly could make dance this year and a number of mid to large programs that have gotten into a position to make tourney this year (versus past years).
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Post by nyalum on Feb 20, 2024 20:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 21, 2024 9:01:41 GMT -5
He could've stayed at Iona and ruled the MAAC. Rick chose to make the jump again, play the portal game, it is what it is... I will say this, his comments aren't wrong. We have the same conversations on this board about guys not guarding or getting to the foul line. Everyone thinks they are getting better adding transfers and older players, more often than not, it doesn't work out that way. I can count on 2 hands the amount of impact transfers that we've gotten over the past 15 years. We’ve did pretty well with transfers, especially under G. Ramon and Garland alone make that a huge win. Earl Pettis as a great get for the NIT year. BJ Johnson and Jordan Price were also great. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 21, 2024 10:07:58 GMT -5
By my count, we've had like 22 incoming transfers since G arrived at La Salle. I could be off by 1 or 2, and it doesn't include the kid from Nebraska that got caught with a girl in a car after dark, or Savon Goodman.
Pettis
Galloway
Garland
Price (black hole with the ball, but he could play)
Johnson
Maybe Pookie and Nickelberry? That's 7 if you want to include those 2, but I'm talking impact players. All conference players, guys that take over games, lead teams to winning seasons, etc. I'm sure you could add 2 more if you want to expand the definition of impact players.
It's not filling up 2 hands of impact players. I think we're on the same page, 20th. We are just saying it differently.
My point in all of this, is that the portal isn't fool proof. We've hit on a third of our portal players in the last 2 decades.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 21, 2024 11:22:32 GMT -5
If you want to laugh or cry, we've had 35 guys transfer out in the same time period. If you include Cunningham, Taylor, and TWill, none of whom played for another college after La Salle (Cunningham graduated from here) it goes to 38. If you want to include Burton from Chester, who did play college ball after the arrest, it goes to 39.
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Post by hykos1045 on Feb 21, 2024 12:52:05 GMT -5
If you want to laugh or cry, we've had 35 guys transfer out in the same time period. If you include Cunningham, Taylor, and TWill, none of whom played for another college after La Salle (Cunningham graduated from here) it goes to 38. If you want to include Burton from Chester, who did play college ball after the arrest, it goes to 39. La Salle is still known as a transfer net-positive school because of the Sweet16 Run. You would have to change the rules to include an exodus of "impact" players. The only players we lost who made more of an impact where they were going and went up a level are rather few. Murray, Clark and Croswell? Those are the only three that come to mind. Then the rest of the potentially impactful transfers out who played significant minutes after leaving are: Carter, Hikim, Kenney, Moutrie, Ray, and the brothers Drame. These players either went down a level or moved laterally, but continued their careers. After that, I'm missing how you get to 39 names. You're really counting a role player like Henry, a transfer IN that ended up going out after one season and playing nowhere else? You're counting two high school kids who unenrolled for reasons that were outside our control (legal trouble)? You're counting the usual players who leave automatically because we insisted we find a new coach before the end of their terms? We had three coaches on the payroll one year, correct? That is going to lead to more transfers every time. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 21, 2024 13:18:34 GMT -5
I took every player that came in from another college (Yevgen didn't count even though he started as a sophomore eligibility wise) and every player that left for another school, plus Demetrius Henry since he had eligibility left.
Vernon Goodridge exhausted all of his eligibility. TWill was kicked out for fighting and didn't play elsewhere. Cunningham didn't play elsewhere and graduated from La Salle. Marshall Taylor didn't play elsewhere as I believe he took a job to support his young children.
Other than those athletes, everyone was counted good and bad, from Karl Harris to Sheriff Kenney, and everyone that transferred in was counted, from Garvin Hunt to BJ Johnson.
22 players in, 35 out... and I could be off by a player or 2.
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Post by sweat83 on Feb 21, 2024 15:50:52 GMT -5
22 players in, 35 out... and I could be off by a player or 2.[/quote]
Of those 35 out, the two that made the best of their decisions were Sheriff Kenney, and Ayinde Hakim. Stepping down a notch isn't such a bad thing if you want some minutes on the court and make a difference. They found good fits. Sheriff twice landed in good spots.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 21, 2024 16:45:14 GMT -5
Was Partin a pre-Giannini guy? He made the tourney with BU as a key starter.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 21, 2024 16:47:28 GMT -5
Was Partin a pre-Giannini guy? He made the tourney with BU as a key starter. G recruited Partin. Got him very late in the recruiting cycle (May) which was late pre-transfer portal. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 21, 2024 17:41:42 GMT -5
i have 40 transfers out and 27 transfers in. twelve guys are on both lists. someone said terrell didn't transfer out. he did, to d2 lynn university where he played at least part of one season. i also included 2 jucos (matt mcfarlane and milos kovacevic) on the transfer in list.
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Brian Grimes
DeSean White
Terrell Williams
Kyle Griffin
Darryl Partin
Devon White
Karon Burton
Aaric Murray
Tristan (T.T.) Carey
Parrish Grant
Matt Lopez
Cole Stefan
Christian Standhardinger
Jermaine Davis
Khalid Lewis
Yevgen Sakhniuk
Karl Harris
Demetrius Henry
Dusan Majstorovic
Cian Sullivan
Miles Brookins
Jamir Moultrie
Dajour (D.J.) Joseph
Traci Carter
Ed Croswell
Jared Kimbrough
Jack Clark
David Beatty
Scott Spencer
Christian Ray
Brandon Stone
Ayinde Hikim
Clifton Moore
Sherif Kenney
Tegra Izay
Derrius Ward
Josh Nickelberry
Matt McFarlane
Fousseyni Drame
Hassan Drame
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Marshall Taylor
DeSean White
Vernon Goodridge
Earl Pettis
Taylor Dunn
Christian Standhardinger
Ramon Galloway
Tyrone Garland
Garvin Hunt
Khalid Lewis
Cleon Roberts
Jordan Price
B.J. Johnson
RaShawn "Pookie" Powell
Demetrius Henry
Traci Carter
David Beatty
Scott Spencer
Cheddi Mosely
Clifton Moore
Moustapha Diagne
Mamadou Doucoure
Josh Nickelberry
Matt McFarlane
Fousseyni Drame
Hassan Drame
Milos Kovacevic
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 21, 2024 17:45:46 GMT -5
someone said terrell didn't transfer out. he did, to d2 lynn university where he played at least part of one season People who transfered involuntarily: Terrell Williams, DeSean White, Matt Lopez |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 21, 2024 17:46:11 GMT -5
That In team would absolutely destroy the Out team.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 21, 2024 17:49:58 GMT -5
someone said terrell didn't transfer out. he did, to d2 lynn university where he played at least part of one season People who transfered involuntarily: Terrell Williams, DeSean White, Matt Lopez my guess is there were more than that. add aaric murray and karon burton to that list. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 21, 2024 19:49:30 GMT -5
Cole Stefan
Brandon Stone
Christian Standhardinger
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 21, 2024 20:42:47 GMT -5
Yikes
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 21, 2024 21:26:36 GMT -5
Add Jameson Keefe to the transfer out group.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 21, 2024 21:42:23 GMT -5
Add Jameson Keefe to the transfer out group. i left him off because he never transferred anywhere to play basketball. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 22, 2024 9:23:10 GMT -5
Roman Narmbiye has to be on the out group. He left for Florida Gulf Coast after G's 1st year.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 22, 2024 20:03:45 GMT -5
Roman Narmbiye has to be on the out group. He left for Florida Gulf Coast after G's 1st year. i completely forgot about him. only went back to dr g's recruits. even though he played 1 year for g, roman was a billy hahn recruit. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 22, 2024 20:12:37 GMT -5
Roman Narmbiye has to be on the out group. He left for Florida Gulf Coast after G's 1st year. i completely forgot about him. only went back to dr g's recruits. even though he played 1 year for g, roman was a billy hahn recruit. Duly noted...Biggest bust of the last 20 years??? |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 22, 2024 20:28:52 GMT -5
Add Jameson Keefe to the transfer out group. i left him off because he never transferred anywhere to play basketball. To complete the full cycle of walking down memory lane, give me all of the 4 year players that graduated since G arrived. You don't have to include walk-ons, and we consider all seniors as grads, regardless if they had a Jameer Nelson type situation where they didn't graduate right away. |
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Post by glorydays on Feb 22, 2024 21:45:00 GMT -5
In the spirit of the moment, Christian Ray now has a 1000 points and 1000 rebounds in his college career. Hens are like 9-6 in CAA.
Brandon Stone hasn’t been in a Delaware State boxscore since 12/30.
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Post by roaddog77 on Feb 22, 2024 22:18:06 GMT -5
I wish Ray would stay with us and congratulations for his 1000 points and rebounds.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 23, 2024 1:25:28 GMT -5
I wish Ray would stay with us and congratulations for his 1000 points and rebounds. You're gonna piss Mik off with this statement. |
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