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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 20, 2013 22:24:57 GMT -5
(This is not the thread for objective discussion)
From their troll fans who tried to ruin the scout board, to the fact that they think they're UCLA (only when viewed through the very small prism of comparing themselves to the last 20 years of La Salle basketball), to their Head Coach who used to be a La Salle alumni, and wanted to stay at Penn "for the rest of his life" and then took the dollars just 2 years later. St. Joe's may be a more traditional rival, but for pure, deep seated visceral hatred, give me Temple any day.
Big 5 titles and NCAA berths aside, I just want to beat them on their own floor tomorrow.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 20, 2013 22:52:58 GMT -5
You know, when I started La Salle in '05, I hated Temple the least of the other Big 5 schools. I'm definitely with you on this one now.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 20, 2013 22:55:52 GMT -5
Order of my disdain….
1.Saints Joseph’s (PA) 2.Villanova 3.Temple 4.Penn 5.Drexel With that said I usually do find myself rooting for Temple football especially when they play PSU.
Go La Salle
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 20, 2013 22:58:16 GMT -5
You know, when I started La Salle in '05, I hated Temple the least of the other Big 5 schools. I'm definitely with you on this one now. I was a freshman in 2004. I was in your boat the first 2 years. I liked Cheney.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 20, 2013 23:03:55 GMT -5
What did it for me was waiting for the subway back to campus after the win at Temple in 2009. I heard a bunch of Temple fans whining about how bad it was that they could lose to us and how terrible all of our players were - including Rodney Green, which really got to me, because he was a huge part of why I was starting to believe in the program. I realize a lot of fans might react that way after a loss, but it struck me as a really entitled way to look at it. Between that and Dunphy, I just can't root for them. But I used to kind of like them. My first Big 5 game was a double overtime game that Temple won at the Palestra over St. Joe's where Lynn Greer hit a winning shot with about two seconds left.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 20, 2013 23:08:47 GMT -5
I love this thread. I know a lot of fine temple people that I like a lot, but there's nothing better than beating them because their fans get so pissed off that their little brother can kick their ass.
Old school temple fans are usually pretty good people, their students and young alums are typically arrogant pricks.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 20, 2013 23:11:36 GMT -5
Best part for me about this game is that they have to beat US to share the title with us.
I don't like to share. I hope they are work out from so many grind it out games that we run away early and ruin all their fans' nights.
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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 20, 2013 23:17:16 GMT -5
Did Cliff Huxtable ever wear a La Salle sweatshirt?
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 20, 2013 23:34:10 GMT -5
Yes, he definitely did wear one in a very early episode. Blue I believe is what he roles with but it might have been gray.
I'm not sure he ever wore a Nova or SJU shirt I know he wore Penn
In unrelated news, Artie Lang wore a Villanova shirt on Letterman last year for some reason
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Post by MisterD on Feb 20, 2013 23:44:44 GMT -5
Order of my disdain…. 1.Saints Joseph’s (PA) 2.Villanova 3.Temple 4.Penn 5.Drexel This is the correct order.
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Post by vasalos on Feb 21, 2013 6:42:41 GMT -5
Temple sucks this year. Losing at home to Duquesne, St. Bonaventures and Canisius? Canisius?
I've always had a respect for Temple and I think a mutual respect is there between both schools since we are the North Philly schools. My disdain are for those two schools that call themselves Philly schools but are well outside the actual city.
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 21, 2013 9:00:33 GMT -5
I liked Cheney also, how can you not:
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 21, 2013 9:01:33 GMT -5
I wish I had a picture of the sign we made for the first game Dunphy came back to Gola with Temple, I remember all his players turning around and laughing at it looking at Fran for a reaction
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 21, 2013 9:05:08 GMT -5
Did Cliff Huxtable ever wear a La Salle sweatshirt?
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 21, 2013 9:10:03 GMT -5
I also got a beer poured on my head at one of the bars in the Trop last year during the A-10 tournament by a Temple fan. There was no argument or anything, I just said I was a La Salle fan and he poured a full beer on my head. The bouncer threw him out immediately, but it was totally out of nowhere.
I know, it's just one guy, I know plenty of nice Temple fans, blah, blah, blah. Again, not the thread for that.
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 21, 2013 9:10:51 GMT -5
Ive hated Temple ever since that racist John Chaney was there. He's still not as bad as John Thompson in that regard.
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 21, 2013 9:14:03 GMT -5
Almost every coach in America would have been dismissed after the hitting of the West Virginia coach but it continued on to the threating to kill Calipari and yet he still was the coach. John Chaney sadly was a coach I liked but after those two incidents that was all I could take. He had serious head problems and yet the Temple adminstrtion allowed it to continue. PATHETIC
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Post by broderickpresident on Feb 21, 2013 9:41:18 GMT -5
I'm down with hating on clueless Temple fans, but ripping John Chaney isn't cool. Sure, his emotions got the best of him at times and I think he'd admit he made some mistakes over the years, but he's a hall of famer and a great man.
And let's not forget that he played a crucial role in getting us into the A-10. I never had a problem rooting for John Chaney to have success in every game except for when he played us.
Matter of fact, that clueless comment about Chaney above has no place on this board and I hope to see it removed by moderators.
Go La Salle
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Post by 23won on Feb 21, 2013 9:42:50 GMT -5
Old school temple fans are usually pretty good people, their students and young alums are typically arrogant ... ... for no good reason.
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Post by scarletexplorer on Feb 21, 2013 9:45:57 GMT -5
You can't judge Chaney for wanting to kill John Calipari. Most people want to kill John Calipari.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 21, 2013 9:48:50 GMT -5
I like John Chaney. He was a great coach who really cared about and helped his players. He was definitely old school too. I would have loved to have had him at La Salle, but he would never have made it with the administration. Yes, he made some mistakes and yes he did and said some things that made me scratch my head, but all in all, he's probably one of the better all time college basketball coaches.
One other thing. I think that Calipari is one of the all time slineballs of college basketball. Kudos to Chaney for going after him.
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 21, 2013 10:01:02 GMT -5
Who the hell DOESN'T want to kill John Calipari, the biggest scumbag in an industry of the worst people on earth?
My Big 5 Hatred Rankings:
1) VILLANOVA -- A rich kid school whose athletic department is run by bullies (save for Jay Wright who is universally hailed as a good guy). But their whole power play to keep Temple out of the Big East and now the whole Catholic 7 stuff is just the worst. Screw them and their fans.
2) UPenn -- This has nothing to do with basketball. It has everything to do with Wharton, which has generated an overwhelming amout of literally the worst people on earth. Wharton grads are the folks who gamed the system that resulted in a near global economic collapse. Thanks, guys who think they're smarter than everyone else because you went to some $30K a year prep school! Also, see Trump, Donald. On another note, I had to go do something at Penn once and walked past not one but TWO kids wearing jester hats doing extreme unicycling tricks. This was within the past five years and not in 1993.
3) Temple -- The Atlanta Braves of college sports. A consistently good program that its student base and alum largely do not care about at all. Even when those teams are in the Top 25 (and higher) no one cares. Some of my best friends went to Temple and are huge hoops heads and NEVER went to games! I can't believe how that happened.
4) St. Joe's -- This is the second best rivalry game in the city. I have no hatred of St. Joe's because it's essentially the same exact school as La Salle, minus Communication and plus food management or whatever it's called. I've got a few St. Joe's friends who are just good, solid folks. But I sure do love hearing 5,000-ish people chant The Hawk Is Dead.
5) Drexel -- Has no impact on my life whatsoever, aside from my wife's MLS from there.
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 21, 2013 10:23:00 GMT -5
In our society some have made special rules for who they consider special people but that just doesn't work for me. You can't do what J. Chaney did and not expect huge negative ramifications. Was J. Chaney a good man, I assume he is all that I hve heard but really I haven't a clue. What I do know is that he had far to many childish and disrespectful outburst which he apparently thought was OK as long as he was doing the disrespecting. The good news for J. Chaney is that Bobby Knight made him look good.
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Post by spaceghost on Feb 21, 2013 10:50:24 GMT -5
Ive hated Temple ever since that racist John Chaney was there. I'll bite: how is John Chaney "racist"? You're talking about a guy who was a dominant high school player in Philadelphia, but couldn't get an offer from any of the Big Five schools because of actual racism. But he didn't hold nearly the grudge you or I would have if we'd had that experience. He had white friends like Tom Gola and Speed Morris, had white assistant coaches, and tried to recruit white players like Billy Donovan. And, while it doesn't speak to race, he's always been a good friend to La Salle.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 21, 2013 10:55:50 GMT -5
I don't buy the Chaney bashing, but I've got no love for Dunphy. Any students reading this, we need a good "Judas" chant when they introduce him tonight.
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Post by diamondandbroad on Feb 21, 2013 11:28:51 GMT -5
Those calling Coach Chaney a racist, clearly know nothing about racism or Coach Chaney's career. I do recall students and LaSalle alumni chanting Taco Bell, go back to Mexico and USA at Juan Fernandez. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 11:33:16 GMT -5
La Salle fans and students, watch your behavior tonight !!! Keith Pompey will be watching.
Over the last couple of seasons, this clown felt the need to rip the La Salle fanbase in articles and on his blog. He's never had one bad thing to say about Temple's fans who are as obnoxious as they come.
The last three years I went to Liacouras, my son and I:
1) were verbally abused and had beer poured on us by a group of d-bag Temple frat boys. 2) was taunted throughout the game by a handful of Temple fans in our section 3) was physically threatened by a Temple fan last year who backed right down when we got in his face
And in every instance, their useless security people sat up at the entrance to the section yapping on their cell phones or stuffing their faces and did nothing about it.
I've gone to dozens of away games over the years and Temple is the ONLY place where I've had a problem.
Needless to say, I'm either watching the game at home or will meet up with some friends at a bar to watch. I'm disappointed I won't be there, but I refuse to put another dime into that athletic program's pocket and I just don't need the hassle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 11:39:46 GMT -5
Those calling Coach Chaney a racist, clearly know nothing about racism or Coach Chaney's career. I do recall students and LaSalle alumni chanting Taco Bell, go back to Mexico and USA at Juan Fernandez. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black. Boo hoo. That was a bunch of dumb college kids showing poor judgement. Get over it. Kind of like when La Salle was coming off the rape scandal and the Temple student section came out with inappropriate rollouts and chants related to that. It's dumb college kids doing dumb things. FWIW, I have nothing against John Chaney. He helped a lot of kids who would not have had a chance otherwise get a degree and make something of themselves. That's a great thing.
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Post by lionelsimmonsghost on Feb 21, 2013 12:39:48 GMT -5
KJ Really? "Dumb College kids showing poor judgemnet"...its ok for our fans to be dumb college kids but when Temples dumb collge kids show poor judgement by spilling beer on you its not ok.
Come on man. You are making us look bad. At least be consistent with your argument. Temple and LaSalle have always been friendly. North Philly complex! Those bashing chaney should also realize we woulndn't be in the A10 with out him, he backed our inclusion even though there were 2 philly (Temple and Saint Joes) in already.
Lets focus the HATE on SJU and Vilenova.
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 21, 2013 12:44:19 GMT -5
Everyone I know who has met Chaney swears he's a great guy. The only thing I ever found repugnant from him was Goongate. That was a truly disgusting thing.
I have nothing but ill will for Dunphy, though. He held out for more money and a "better" job when he got hired at Temple. I'm of the opinion that he tentatively accepted our coaching job in order to arrange a deal with Temple folks to replace Chaney upon his retirement. He essentially held up two colleges to arrange a deal.
Thankfully, he's a good quote so no one in the press will ever dare charge him with being a backstabber.
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