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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 21, 2022 4:25:37 GMT -5
I'd seen this topic discussed at quite some length within the "Dunphy Recruits" section and wanted to expound more. I found myself veering farther off topic of recruiting and La Salle BB, so I snipped it and brought it into OT to share my Temple thoughts.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 21, 2022 4:27:50 GMT -5
Well Temple's dumpster fire of a conference continues to get eroded "Cincinnati, Houston and UCF will officially join the Big 12 on July 1, 2023, after reaching an exit agreement with the American Athletic Conference, the league and schools announced Friday." |
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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 21, 2022 4:33:02 GMT -5
Wonder if they end up losing Navy for football too. Hard to imagine that conference will end up being that much better than an independent schedule for football. Remaining Members for football: East Carolina Memphis Navy South Florida SMU Temple Tulane New members coming in: Tulsa UAB Florida Atlantic James Madison Charlotte North Texas Rice I understand the football aspect, but it makes no sense for Temple to be in that conference. I understand the football aspect, but it makes no sense for Temple to be in that conference. They should rejoin the A10 and play in the AAC for football only. They could split the 7 eastern schools in one division and the rest in the other. Play 6 teams in your division and then 4 in the other division. The hoops play suffers after you factor in the departures and additions. They'd be better off with A10 travel for non-football sports too They should rejoin the A10 and play in the AAC for football only. The AAC wouldn't do this. I understand the football aspect, but it makes no sense for Temple to be in that conference. if i remember correctly, temple has $7 million reasons to remain in the aac. i believe that's how much each aac member receives annually from their espn contract. not sure if that's changing because of the defections though. The AAC wouldn't do this. I thought Temple was like ND :-) That is a bunch of weak sisters in the "football conference" and the hoop opponents outside Memphis, SMU and maybe Tulsa are well below the average A10 school If football didn't exist, Temple would assuredly be in a different conference. It would take a group of a minimum of 8 football schools that could solidify a TV deal to do what you're proposing. And they should, but the non-football conferences are this: • America East • Atlantic 10 • Big East • Big West • CCSA • Horizon • MAAC • MPSF • Summit • WCC Find 7 other schools like Temple (nationally is fine) that have enough draw to make a TV deal worth it, but enough reason to leave their current conference. Does that many exist? Would they have a place for all other sports in the above list? 🤷🏼♂️ I thought Temple was like ND :-) That is a bunch of weak sisters in the "football conference" and the hoop opponents outside Memphis, SMU and maybe Tulsa are well below the average A10 school ND is unique. Their marque value allows them to make the rules. I.E. NBC contract. Temple has no subway alumni. ND is unique. Their marque value allows them to make the rules. I.E. NBC contract. Temple has no subway alumni. The Temple comment was a joke :-) TU does have subway alumni, just not like ND |
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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 21, 2022 4:36:55 GMT -5
If football didn't exist, Temple would assuredly be in a different conference. It would take a group of a minimum of 8 football schools that could solidify a TV deal to do what you're proposing. And they should, but the non-football conferences are this: • America East • Atlantic 10 • Big East • Big West • CCSA • Horizon • MAAC • MPSF • Summit • WCC Find 7 other schools like Temple (nationally is fine) that have enough draw to make a TV deal worth it, but enough reason to leave their current conference. Does that many exist? Would they have a place for all other sports in the above list? 🤷🏼♂️ True. But irrespective of football, they detest any affiliation with us and the remainder of the A10. I should think the Big 12 would be where they want to try to move, given that it's down from all of the realignment, but it might not actually be attainable considering that they've now twice been in the mix there and snubbed. If they had gotten pursued by the Big 12, the key to remember is it would require a substantial upgrade in prominence from their current situation, and they'd surely have to invest in a football stadium and some NIL money to even win more than a handful of games in that league, let alone having a winning program at that level. I can see where any hiccups along the road might get mischaracterized as an institutional failure. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. Anyhow, hearing rumblings of a stadium deal makes me think that institution wanted to get Big 12 interest, but probably wouldn't build a stadium just to keep aligned with the AAC or a non-football conference such as the A10. Their fans still are gunshy about joining new conferences because of their failing " Big East but with Football" experiment. Plus they continue to get "snubbed" by the likes of the Big East and Big 12. Ask any Temple fan, and he is still salty Xavier/Butler got Big East invites over them, and that Cincy was a Big 12 pick over them. Since they can no longer prop up the merits of the AAC, as the CONs list seems as lengthy if not more as their PROs, I don't know where they'll turn next, but like you point out, they seem to have marooned themselves on an island, haven't they? In new england, UConn was in a similar boat, and to some extent UMass is today but those three schools alone wouldn't attract a lot of attention to attract new entrants if they even had the wherewithal to pursue such an arrangement. Independent status in football for anyone outside of ND is a surefire way to lose, as UConn has proven. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 21, 2022 6:21:48 GMT -5
they detest any affiliation with us and the remainder of the A10. I should think the Big 12 would be where they want to try to move, given that it's down from all of the realignment, but it might not actually be attainable considering that they've now twice been in the mix there and snubbed. Let's take your second point first. Long term, Big 12 is looking like: Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, BYU, Houston, UCF and Cincinnati. Temple doesn't belong on that list. A lot of these dots are out of place but Temple is for sure.  I don't think they detest the A10. They ruled the A10, but football is the driving force and the A10 didn't have football. In a world where football was independent of the rest of their sports, I think they're looking more local. |
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Post by glorydays on Jun 26, 2022 5:26:07 GMT -5
Temple should rejoin the A-10 and and play football in the CAA. That is drop down a level in football. Villanova plays CAA football and of course is a member of the Big East Conference in every thing else. Back in the day, the Delaware, Temple and Nova football games were great match ups. Today, over a couple dozen teams make their FB tournament. Temple could be like North Dakota State. Temple is hung up on playing big time football.
I am sure if Dunph and Bradshaw read this, they would tell me to go poop in my hat.
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