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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 16, 2021 22:20:57 GMT -5
He gets next year. Sticking to that.
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Post by glorydays on Jan 16, 2021 22:26:10 GMT -5
He gets next year. Sticking to that. Redundancy has its place.
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Post by blueandgold on Jan 16, 2021 22:29:22 GMT -5
Monday's home date with Saint Joseph's of Pennsylvania could not come at a better time - we need a pick-me-up game to regain some confidence after a few bruisers in a row.
-14 points in paint -10 rebounds -12 points off TOs 40% FG / 24% 3PT
These are minor improvements vs the Mason game and we took better care of the ball, but still not a winning formula - just the difference between losing by 24 vs 33.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 16, 2021 22:37:23 GMT -5
Not coming to defense. But he has through next year to show that he can win, or you move on. ...And...his biggest backer, and the person most instrumental in hiring him, is leaving the University. That HAS to be a factor is this shit show of a product that has been thrown on the floor this past week. I'm willing to give him a pass this week. Tough circumstances, but there is still time to right the ship. I'm not sure her leaving is a factor here. I thought Bradshaw made the hire, no? She's two levels above him, and if he was her main focus, then La Salle has bigger problems. We lost to Army and St. Peter's before her leaving was a thing. If the President leaving is the cause of these blowouts, maybe she should take him with her to Xavier. We are halfway through the season right now sitting at 5-8, and now I'm thinking we win between 8 and 11. Never thought I'd feel like we were lucky to win 11 in his third year.
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Post by glorydays on Jan 17, 2021 5:59:37 GMT -5
The more we discuss this, it could be interpreted as an anti Ash harangue. I am off this topic for now.
All the cliches here..one game at a time, etc. I just thought we would be on the uptick here in the middle of year 3. Time to obsess on other things.
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Post by walkon on Jan 17, 2021 6:43:45 GMT -5
Monday's home date with Saint Joseph's of Pennsylvania could not come at a better time - we need a pick-me-up game to regain some confidence after a few bruisers in a row. -14 points in paint -10 rebounds -12 points off TOs 40% FG / 24% 3PT These are minor improvements vs the Mason game and we took better care of the ball, but still not a winning formula - just the difference between losing by 24 vs 33. After watching them this season several times, I believe they are a better team, than us. I expect this to be a hard game regardless if Daly is playing. Their record is lousy, but they weren’t playing Lincoln U and schools like that in non conference. I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think we can beat anyone with the way we are playing lately- unless of course we make threes..We have equal if not better talent than the hawks. Just don’t know what we can do with this style of play.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 17, 2021 7:25:17 GMT -5
I refuse to believe we can lose to a really really really bad Hawks team. (Of course, somewhere a Dayton fan probably said that about Fordham).
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Post by blueandgold on Jan 17, 2021 8:50:28 GMT -5
I refuse to believe we can lose to a really really really bad Hawks team. (Of course, somewhere a Dayton fan probably said that about Fordham). If we lose to Saint Joseph’s of Pennsylvania tomorrow, I will add “I love the Hawk” to my profile the rest of the season.
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Post by 23won on Jan 17, 2021 8:57:42 GMT -5
That’s a llittle extreme (and unnecessary)
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 17, 2021 9:47:11 GMT -5
I refuse to believe we can lose to a really really really bad Hawks team. (Of course, somewhere a Dayton fan probably said that about Fordham). If we lose to Saint Joseph’s of Pennsylvania tomorrow, I will add “I love the Hawk” to my profile the rest of the season. I won’t allow it. Being heavy handed here.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 17, 2021 10:39:57 GMT -5
We should do a poll What is Ash’s grade after 3 1/2 years?
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Post by diehardexplorer on Jan 17, 2021 10:51:35 GMT -5
he's midway through his 3rd season, so it's 2 1/2 years.
not grading him yet. given the situation, imo his recruiting has been solid. maybe he figures out the coaching part at some point.
hopefully that happens because he's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 17, 2021 11:00:22 GMT -5
he's midway through his 3rd season, so it's 2 1/2 years. not grading him yet. given the situation, imo his recruiting has been solid. maybe he figures out the coaching part at some point. hopefully that happens because he's not going anywhere anytime soon. Duh, brain fart by me. 2 1/2 years is enough time for me. Team is inconsistent and the program no better than when he came in. His recruiting is not good when he can’t get the most of the players he has recruited. It is obvious he hasn’t done that so his recruiting is below average as well. I agree he has at least next year before anything happens. If we lose tomorrow this board will be on fire.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 17, 2021 12:56:02 GMT -5
If he has a 5 year contract, then 2.5 years is his mid term grade. Right now... B-. Maybe he can have a solid next 2 years and pull his grade up.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 17, 2021 13:11:17 GMT -5
Can’t give him a B-. He is a C- for me at best.
Glitter I wish I had you as a professor at La Salle. My GPA would have some extra points added to it.🤗
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 17, 2021 13:55:47 GMT -5
If he has a 5 year contract, then 2.5 years is his mid term grade. Right now... B-. Maybe he can have a solid next 2 years and pull his grade up. if he’s not better he doesn’t get that fifth year though. I think the times of extending guys without a show of success are over.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 17, 2021 13:57:16 GMT -5
If he has a 5 year contract, then 2.5 years is his mid term grade. Right now... B-. Maybe he can have a solid next 2 years and pull his grade up. if he’s not better he doesn’t get that fifth year though. I think the times of extending guys without a show of success are over. maybe...but La Salle always does things we don't expect.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 17, 2021 14:02:07 GMT -5
Can’t give him a B-. He is a C- for me at best. Glitter I wish I had you as a professor at La Salle. My GPA would have some extra points added to it.🤗 there is some grade inflation during these unprecedented times. I give him an B+ for recruiting....a C- for game day coaching...and extra credit for class participation.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 17, 2021 16:29:02 GMT -5
if he’s not better he doesn’t get that fifth year though. I think the times of extending guys without a show of success are over. maybe...but La Salle always does things we don't expect. Not the new La Salle with an accountable president and actual athletic director.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 17, 2021 18:50:54 GMT -5
I wonder how this job would look if we get the top assistant on a national champion and run him out after one contract for lack of success. I’m not saying we couldn’t get a solid hire, because we’re a high 2nd tier league, but if you find 10 coaches who would love an A-10 job, I’d bet not all 10 would accept our offer (as we presently stand).
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 17, 2021 19:52:05 GMT -5
I wonder how this job would look if we get the top assistant on a national champion and run him out after one contract for lack of success. I’m not saying we couldn’t get a solid hire, because we’re a high 2nd tier league, but if you find 10 coaches who would love an A-10 job, I’d bet not all 10 would accept our offer (as we presently stand). maybe a top assistant isn't the way to go. Maybe someone who cut their teeth at a lower level conference as a head coach would be the right fit rather than someone who never had a head coaching job in college before.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 17, 2021 19:58:07 GMT -5
I wonder how this job would look if we get the top assistant on a national champion and run him out after one contract for lack of success. I’m not saying we couldn’t get a solid hire, because we’re a high 2nd tier league, but if you find 10 coaches who would love an A-10 job, I’d bet not all 10 would accept our offer (as we presently stand). We’ll know whether that makes sense or not after next year. I still have faith.
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Post by sidclassof69 on Jan 17, 2021 22:11:35 GMT -5
IMO- Recruiting is a very difficult challenge at. La Salle( due to obvious reasons)-Therefore the only way a coach could have even moderate success at La Salle, would be by superior coaching+ getting his kids to “ Go through a wall” on every play.. In other words, play over their heads for 40 minutes a game. To this point,nI have not seen even the slightest sign of that , with this group. Does that fall on the Coach or the kids( He recruited)- Probably a little of both. Some sort of change in his coaching philosophy must take place- Just the opinion of an old alum.
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Post by walkon on Jan 18, 2021 8:34:32 GMT -5
Transfers is how we compete at highest levels in this league ...only option
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 18, 2021 9:39:42 GMT -5
Transfers is how we compete at highest levels in this league ...only option Or you convince one superstar kid to stay home and be the best player in the A10. Was hoping Quade Green was going to come home and be a centerpiece for two years. He’s been ok at Washington but not great.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 18, 2021 10:02:47 GMT -5
Does that even work? A kid who is a superstar (top ~50 recruit) is almost assuredly going to have the Villanova option if he wants to stay home. I'm with walk-on, here. Our best shot is building a solid core of direct recruits and then put a legit all A-10 transfer or two on top of the roster.
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Post by walkon on Jan 18, 2021 13:05:02 GMT -5
Does that even work? A kid who is a superstar (top ~50 recruit) is almost assuredly going to have the Villanova option if he wants to stay home. I'm with walk-on, here. Our best shot is building a solid core of direct recruits and then put a legit all A-10 transfer or two on top of the roster. If anyone disagrees look at the Sweet 16 roster. We are incapable of a full roster that can compete like that, without a few transfers. I like to think of guys like BJ, Ramon- out of high school obviously heading to a major program.. but after a short stay it isn’t a good fit or playing time isn’t ideal and the selling point is coming back to philly and playing immediately. That’s our only way in the current environment. My two favorite players BJ and Ramon both came to us in similar situations- big schools, maybe different reasons for leaving but were sold on coming home.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 18, 2021 13:38:33 GMT -5
I agree we need to take transfers from high majors to be competitive.
Ash has taken the wrong transfers. Beatty, Spencer, Moore are nowhere near the quality of players we need to good in the A10.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 18, 2021 14:11:51 GMT -5
There's no one size fits all approach. Taking a transfer or 2 is nice, but the 16-17 team was loaded with transfers and finished 15-15. Sometimes transfers are transfers for a reason. I realize that the current state of scholastic athletics involves significant player movement, but it's going to be very hard to maintain consistency if the bulk of the roster is a revolving door year after year.
Galloway and Garland were great for the team and program. However, instead of using 2 solid 20+ win seasons to parlay it to a Fresh Kimble or lighter upper echelon type recruit, we hitched our wagon to Price and Roberts. It started this rapid decline to the A10 basement.
Decide on a system that we want to play. Then recruit players, both high school and transfer that can play in that particular system.
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Post by 23won on Jan 18, 2021 14:50:42 GMT -5
Transfers are a necessary thing in the portal world, but our transfer calling card (having Philly kids come home for immediate play) has gone out the window now the NCAA has a revolving portal system. Not the answer or panacea but a necessary tool in the tool belt. If you can't win because you can't get break your man down players, there actually is a pretty easy way to improve and WIN... Study the Davidson offensive scheme, spend $40 and read the book. www.championshipproductions.com/cgi-bin/champ/p/Basketball/Bob-McKillop-Winning-Close-Games-with-Special-Plays_BD-03036.html?mv_source=google_shop Develop players around that model and we will always be in the upper 50% of the league and get a dance bid every 5 years. Similar models are working in Olean and Richmond. If you say that won't work because you're worried about D, don't run man 100%, but throw in the 'cuse flex zone, teach how to help off the UVA pack line and switch things up in between with a Nova 3/4 court press (it's better than the full court version we use).
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