President Hanycz leaving for Xavier

[GlitterBro #2]

Feb 4, 2021 18:44:37 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Duquesne's new arena looks like shit. That'll set him off.

tsk tsk...language. 

[GlitterBro #2]

Feb 4, 2021 16:10:23 GMT -5 theneumann64 said:

Day after a huge win and we're doing this shit.

Careful admin...you might get banned for language

[calsufan]

Feb 4, 2021 19:07:45 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

Feb 4, 2021 16:10:23 GMT -5 theneumann64 said:

Day after a huge win and we're doing this shit.

Careful admin...you might get banned for language

[GlitterBro #2]

explorertown.proboards.com/post/20

iii. - Poor language makes you look uneducated, not cool.

There is absolutely no need for it. Substitution of 1 or 2 characters isn't sufficient - please use appropriate language.

[GlitterBro #2]

Feb 4, 2021 18:10:25 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

Feb 4, 2021 17:17:22 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

I think we should reserve calling last night a "huge win" until we see where SLU falls in the league.

You really trying to fight huh

From The Athletic:


Let’s try a quick blind résumé game.

Team A is No. 53 in Net, 0-1 in Quad 1 games and just 1-0 in Quad 2. It has a pair of Quad 3 losses, along with the No. 252 overall schedule and the No. 79 strength of record, according to ESPN’s BPI. Does that sound like an NCAA Tournament profile to you?

That’s the portfolio of Saint Louis, which was ranked for several weeks while on pause for COVID-19 issues. The Billikens are 0-2 since returning, including a humbling loss to La Salle on Wednesday. Earlier wins against LSU and NC State have lost plenty of luster. Not only is SLU not a tournament team right now, but there’s also no guarantee of an at-large for the Atlantic 10, which is surprising. We do have VCU in the First Four, and that worked out pretty well for the Rams once upon a time.

[JoeFedorowicz]

Stay humbled.

[MisterD]

As sure as we have a February each year, we also have "is the A-10 a one bid conference" talk.

[GlitterBro #2]

Feb 5, 2021 10:15:00 GMT -5 MisterD said:

As sure as we have a February each year, we also have "is the A-10 a one bid conference" talk.

Lunardi's latest bracket on ESPN has VCU, Richmond, and SLU as "First 4 Out". That might be a first to have 3 from the same conference. I don't see VCU as out though.

[MisterD]

Right. Every year we have one that's in and then four that "who knows, might not make it" then the one loses the conference tourney, someone else gets the bid and a third gets one of the last at-large.

[GlitterBro #2]

TOO MANY VPS IN THE KITCHEN SPOIL THE BROTH – EDITORIAL

Is “administrative bloat” a problem at the University?

thelasallecollegian.wordpress.com/2021/02/10/too-many-vps-in-the-kitchen-spoil-the-broth-editorial/

Twenty years ago, the executive cabinet at the University looked something like this: president, provost, three VPs and four deans. Today, however, the administration has a much greater fleet: president, three deans, vice president and general counsel, vice president of university advancement, chief of staff, vice president of mission, diversity and inclusion, vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications, vice president of finance and administration, provost and vice president of academic affairs, vice president of student affairs and enrollment and, most recently, executive vice president. Yes, it’s a mouth full. Twenty years ago, La Salle had roughly the same or slightly more students than it does now. In 20 years, how exactly did we get to this point, and are we better off now or then? Does the big government model for the administration work for La Salle? A large, complex administrative structure at La Salle creates several potential problems for the University. Firstly, it’s a costly operation. Secondly, it cripples the model of shared governance. Thirdly, the model lends itself to the pitfalls of bureaucracy.

[23won]

Feb 11, 2021 12:00:09 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

TOO MANY VPS IN THE KITCHEN SPOIL THE BROTH – EDITORIAL

Is “administrative bloat” a problem at the University?

thelasallecollegian.wordpress.com/2021/02/10/too-many-vps-in-the-kitchen-spoil-the-broth-editorial/

Twenty years ago, the executive cabinet at the University looked something like this: president, provost, three VPs and four deans. Today, however, the administration has a much greater fleet: president, three deans, vice president and general counsel, vice president of university advancement, chief of staff, vice president of mission, diversity and inclusion, vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications, vice president of finance and administration, provost and vice president of academic affairs, vice president of student affairs and enrollment and, most recently, executive vice president. Yes, it’s a mouth full. Twenty years ago, La Salle had roughly the same or slightly more students than it does now. In 20 years, how exactly did we get to this point, and are we better off now or then? Does the big government model for the administration work for La Salle? A large, complex administrative structure at La Salle creates several potential problems for the University. Firstly, it’s a costly operation. Secondly, it cripples the model of shared governance. Thirdly, the model lends itself to the pitfalls of bureaucracy.

pretty interesting 7 then versus 16 now.  The VP position title usually justifies a higher salary.  What would be more interesting to me would be to have the collegian do a search (FOIA or higher ed based if possible) to chart the delta in salary and benefit cost (adjusted for nominal interim inflation factors).  That would show if Colleen brought the big gov mentality that is financially burdening the school as we speak.  I will compare positions with thoughts in a post below

  

[23won]

president - Colleen v Bro Mike cost delta is probably pretty steep; in my experience, progressive leaders like to talk about how the world should be filled with altruists, but they wind up making an outsized paycheck while they are waving their wand to make the world a better place; would be interesting to see the pay comparisons at work here

3 v 4 dean cost delta should not be big,

vice president and general counsel. External lawyers are expensive; if the all in legal budget with outside counsel spending is comparable or slightly higher, then I have no issue; if it is out of whack, the GC may just be directing fee traffic to the firms; $$ please

vice president of university advancement; probably don't need the title and added cost, but this was a prior function, so compare 2001 to now;  BTW this guy (gone to X?) was way better then the 2001 model

chief of staff; just compare v 2001 cost; this person seems good and has lobbying background so you gotta spend there but what is the delta here

vice president of mission, diversity and inclusion; this should start at the top and reside with Pres and should not require a VP title; this looks like a window dressing position that is not needed but ... what are they paying versus 0 in 2001;  it may not be much since this is a C Brother

vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications; I think this is a good add; no issue

vice president of finance and administration, no issue but let's compare cost and see EVP comment below

provost and vice president of academic affairs, let's compare cost

vice president of student affairs and enrollment; seems totally redundant of vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications; WHY?

most recently, executive vice president, WHY? Is this Colleen's hand at work to suggest a successor when she leaves (which she did!).  Bio looks good but is redundant to multiple other positions so make him an EVP of finance and delete redundant VP finance/accounting, CFO positions, or don't add in the first place.  Looks like a gov't bur bloat position without VP cuts 

While we're at it, let's compare the AD position costs

[gymrat67]

Feb 11, 2021 12:00:09 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

TOO MANY VPS IN THE KITCHEN SPOIL THE BROTH – EDITORIAL

Is “administrative bloat” a problem at the University?

thelasallecollegian.wordpress.com/2021/02/10/too-many-vps-in-the-kitchen-spoil-the-broth-editorial/

Twenty years ago, the executive cabinet at the University looked something like this: president, provost, three VPs and four deans. Today, however, the administration has a much greater fleet: president, three deans, vice president and general counsel, vice president of university advancement, chief of staff, vice president of mission, diversity and inclusion, vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications, vice president of finance and administration, provost and vice president of academic affairs, vice president of student affairs and enrollment and, most recently, executive vice president. Yes, it’s a mouth full. Twenty years ago, La Salle had roughly the same or slightly more students than it does now. In 20 years, how exactly did we get to this point, and are we better off now or then? Does the big government model for the administration work for La Salle? A large, complex administrative structure at La Salle creates several potential problems for the University. Firstly, it’s a costly operation. Secondly, it cripples the model of shared governance. Thirdly, the model lends itself to the pitfalls of bureaucracy.

     Stated differently : " Edifice " complex ?  

[GlitterBro #2]

Feb 11, 2021 12:38:00 GMT -5 23won said:

president - Colleen v Bro Mike cost delta is probably pretty steep; in my experience, progressive leaders like to talk about how the world should be filled with altruists, but they wind up making an outsized paycheck while they are waving their wand to make the world a better place; would be interesting to see the pay comparisons at work here

3 v 4 dean cost delta should not be big,

vice president and general counsel. External lawyers are expensive; if the all in legal budget with outside counsel spending is comparable or slightly higher, then I have no issue; if it is out of whack, the GC may just be directing fee traffic to the firms; $$ please

vice president of university advancement; probably don't need the title and added cost, but this was a prior function, so compare 2001 to now;  BTW this guy (gone to X?) was way better then the 2001 model

chief of staff; just compare v 2001 cost; this person seems good and has lobbying background so you gotta spend there but what is the delta here

vice president of mission, diversity and inclusion; this should start at the top and reside with Pres and should not require a VP title; this looks like a window dressing position that is not needed but ... what are they paying versus 0 in 2001;  it may not be much since this is a C Brother

vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications; I think this is a good add; no issue

vice president of finance and administration, no issue but let's compare cost and see EVP comment below

provost and vice president of academic affairs, let's compare cost

vice president of student affairs and enrollment; seems totally redundant of vice president of enrollment management, marketing and communications; WHY?

most recently, executive vice president, WHY? Is this Colleen's hand at work to suggest a successor when she leaves (which she did!).  Bio looks good but is redundant to multiple other positions so make him an EVP of finance and delete redundant VP finance/accounting, CFO positions, or don't add in the first place.  Looks like a gov't bur bloat position without VP cuts 

While we're at it, let's compare the AD position costs

990 filing - Schedule J shows the highly compensated employees (https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/231352654/202021149349300817/IRS990ScheduleJ):

Current Prez is listed at 601K in compensation.  Bro Mike made $0 as a Christian Brother...so yeah...big delta there.

I looked at 2001 - it only lists 5 highly compensated employees.  Birdhouse AD being one of them at $164K (3rd highest paid employee in that filing) with the 2018 filing showing Bradshaw at $310K (5th highest paid). Interestingly , in the 2018 filing it shows both Ash ($364K) and G ($788K) - so we paid $1.1M for men's basketball coaches that year.

Provost in 2001 had about $190K versus $357K in 2018.  

VP of advancement - $174K vs $285K

Pretty sure the "chief of staff" in 2001 was Bro. Mike's admin

[diehardexplorer]

23won, did i read it correctly? colleen suggested a replacement?

[hykos1045]

Feb 13, 2021 18:21:58 GMT -5 diehardexplorer said:

23won, did i read it correctly? colleen suggested a replacement?

I don't think I picked that up from the thread. The mentality referred to is for existing hires, not for future replacements.

[victoriouslasalle]

I really like to understand better what has happened here, reserve judgement, get a clearer picture, particularly because this involves La Salle and people at La Salle. I thought the collegian article raised good questions. I am quite removed, and found folks’ postings here informative, certainly offering a notable amount of detailed commentary and .....strong opinion. The thread has spurred questions for me as I try to better understand what has and is taking place.

Some of my Questions
Why were salary increases made? Whether you agree or disagree. I wonder, were these salary increases at La Salle (contributing to this poster delta distress for some) increased in an effort to more professionalize these positions, make them more in line with those universities we aspire to be a peer of? Are they an attempt to more align with the current institutional marketplace? Logic suggests something like this to me. I would find it helpful to more clarify, and understand why the raises were given.

Why the increase in the number of positions as called out here? I am curious, how does the increase in the number of positions at issue compare to what takes place in the organizational structures elsewhere, is this out of line with our university market competitors? Are we striving again to more professionalize the organization? How out of line is this?

Most importantly, were these salary and organizational expansion decisions costs look to be offset, able to be paid for, or put into place based to a reasonable degree upon projected growth of revenue? If growth was in any way counted upon, was there a plan for growth that appeared attainable? Were some frivolous or inadequately supported projections made?

Assuming that important targeted growth did not happen, do we know why? What went wrong?

For those who seem to be concerned about the large salary increases, I am curious, is your delta distress and grievance based solely upon concern that the school has not proven to be able to pay for them, or are you taking issue with these raises, feeling also that the targeted professional positions do not merit them?

A bit of an aside, I could be wrong but some in this thread seem to be suggesting that Collen Hanyck in her tenure as president may have seriously dropped the ball. If this be so, X obviously disagrees. I am thinking the X hiring strongly suggests that in their analysis her leadership was not found critically culpable for whatever our troubles are. They obviously see other factors playing critical roles.

[sidclassof69]

Makes me want to sing” I Left My Heart in Cincinnati.”

[JoeFedorowicz]

I think, ultimately, that La Salle was always a stepping stone for Colleen. That said, I think she did what she could inheriting a very ingrained culture that was not conducive to success in financially solvent higher education.

I know for a fact that there were people she wanted to get rid of that she couldn’t for a variety of reasons, at least not at the beginning, and I think that made it hard to do certain things quickly. Lot of lifers at La Salle.

[victoriouslasalle]

Feb 14, 2021 17:38:30 GMT -5 sidclassof69 said:

Makes me want to sing” I Left My Heart in Cincinnati.”

Ah SID, an enchanting day today for sure, being Valentines Day, romance is certainly in the air . Per this matter, no romance afoot for me. I am however very fond of seeking the clearest picture and understanding. I would not want to discourage your singing though, go for it man ! I do reserve the right to get even if I have to !

[explorerman]

Feb 14, 2021 14:48:32 GMT -5 victoriouslasalle said:

A bit of an aside, I could be wrong but some in this thread seem to be suggesting that Collen Hanyck in her tenure as president may have seriously dropped the ball. If this be so, X obviously disagrees. I am thinking the X hiring strongly suggests that in their analysis her leadership was not found critically culpable for whatever our troubles are. They obviously see other factors playing critical roles.

If someone is suggesting that then they legitimately have no idea what they are talking about...

[GlitterBro #2]

Declining admissions and applications have been seen by some on here as not being the administration's fault. Various factors were listed...among them Covid, neighborhood, general decline in college applications across the board, etc.

Fact is...the most important thing for La Salle's sustainability is enrollment. Butts in seat drives revenue for a school like La Salle. Colleen was bonused, in part, based on enrollment. Bottom line...she didn't deliver...declining enrolment and applications are solely her fault.

For Fall of 2019, La Salle received about 6600 applications. For Fall of 2020, that number was about 6150. For Fall of 2021...well...they aren't releasing the numbers like they used to. I wonder why...is there something to hide?

In contrast, Duquesne had record applicants this year...10,000. Seems Covid and the general decline in college applications hasn't affected them negatively. Oh yeah...they stayed open too.

www.duq.edu/news/releases/duquesne-university-draws-record-10000-freshman-applications-#

[calsufan]

I really wish you'd come clean on the personal ax you have to grind. While you have some valid points about enrollment (possibly), the approach and attitude you present is extremely hostile towards her. I don't think every thing needs to be sweetness and light, but you beat this drum every chance you get in what I see as an aggressive, belligerent manner. It's unseemly IMHO.

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 30, 2021 11:55:32 GMT -5 calsufan said:

I really wish you'd come clean on the personal ax you have to grind. While you have some valid points about enrollment (possibly), the approach and attitude you present is extremely hostile towards her. I don't think every thing needs to be sweetness and light, but you beat this drum every chance you get in what I see as an aggressive, belligerent manner. It's unseemly IMHO.

My "personal ax"(e) is that the highest paid and most visible official of the University.,..OUR University...failed her constituents.  Enrollment is at a modern low, layoffs happened, and no plans have been communicated regarding basketball facilities or otherwise, despite money being spent on multiple strategic consultants to create the plans. Granted...the colorful chairs in the quad look nice, so that's a start i guess.

The consensus in earlier pages here was...well, all Universities are facing declining applications and enrollment, so she should get a pass.  Nope....we have are seeing a school in our conference...in our state...a Catholic school...do what they need to do admissions-wise, facility-wise, and donation-wise to grow. We're seeing another one, down the street in our conference, make a major strategic deal to grow enrollment and endowment.

Why does she get a pass on criticism while, under her "leadership", we continue to fall behind our peers? The BoT needs to wake up from their love-fest with her and get someone who can execute.  Hope is not a strategy.

Why are they "possibly" valid points about enrollment?

[JoeFedorowicz]

Mar 30, 2021 9:54:48 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

declining enrolment and applications are solely her fault.

not a lol guy but lol

[calsufan]

Mar 30, 2021 13:09:29 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

Mar 30, 2021 11:55:32 GMT -5 calsufan said:

I really wish you'd come clean on the personal ax you have to grind. While you have some valid points about enrollment (possibly), the approach and attitude you present is extremely hostile towards her. I don't think every thing needs to be sweetness and light, but you beat this drum every chance you get in what I see as an aggressive, belligerent manner. It's unseemly IMHO.

My "personal ax"(e) is that the highest paid and most visible official of the University.,..OUR University...failed her constituents.  Enrollment is at a modern low, layoffs happened, and no plans have been communicated regarding basketball facilities or otherwise, despite money being spent on multiple strategic consultants to create the plans. Granted...the colorful chairs in the quad look nice, so that's a start i guess.

The consensus in earlier pages here was...well, all Universities are facing declining applications and enrollment, so she should get a pass.  Nope....we have are seeing a school in our conference...in our state...a Catholic school...do what they need to do admissions-wise, facility-wise, and donation-wise to grow. We're seeing another one, down the street in our conference, make a major strategic deal to grow enrollment and endowment.

Why does she get a pass on criticism while, under her "leadership", we continue to fall behind our peers? The BoT needs to wake up from their love-fest with her and get someone who can execute.  Hope is not a strategy.

Why are they "possibly" valid points about enrollment?

Sorry, but I don't believe you. I think there's more to it than that but you don't want to fess up what your issue is. I agree it's concerning and I'm not giving her a free pass, but the seemingly almost personal attacks on this, the Covid byline and everything else is a bit much. In your mind the President can do no right. Everyone does some right and everyone does some wrong, you, me, her, everyone. I'm not going to say what I think she did right or what she might have done wrong. It just appears to me that you're always in attack mode with her and I don't think we know the true reason why.

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 30, 2021 15:28:37 GMT -5 calsufan said:

Mar 30, 2021 13:09:29 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

My "personal ax"(e) is that the highest paid and most visible official of the University.,..OUR University...failed her constituents.  Enrollment is at a modern low, layoffs happened, and no plans have been communicated regarding basketball facilities or otherwise, despite money being spent on multiple strategic consultants to create the plans. Granted...the colorful chairs in the quad look nice, so that's a start i guess.

The consensus in earlier pages here was...well, all Universities are facing declining applications and enrollment, so she should get a pass.  Nope....we have are seeing a school in our conference...in our state...a Catholic school...do what they need to do admissions-wise, facility-wise, and donation-wise to grow. We're seeing another one, down the street in our conference, make a major strategic deal to grow enrollment and endowment.

Why does she get a pass on criticism while, under her "leadership", we continue to fall behind our peers? The BoT needs to wake up from their love-fest with her and get someone who can execute.  Hope is not a strategy.

Why are they "possibly" valid points about enrollment?

Sorry, but I don't believe you. I think there's more to it than that but you don't want to fess up what your issue is. I agree it's concerning and I'm not giving her a free pass, but the seemingly almost personal attacks on this, the Covid byline and everything else is a bit much. In your mind the President can do no right. Everyone does some right and everyone does some wrong, you, me, her, everyone. I'm not going to say what I think she did right or what she might have done wrong. It just appears to me that you're always in attack mode with her and I don't think we know the true reason why.

She (or any President of La Salle) has 3 critical tasks, in my opinion (not necessarily in order of importance):

1) Obtain the resources necessary to raise the profile and educational quality of La Salle. Resources can be from talent, from acquisitions, and from big-ticket donations. Is the endowment higher or lower than when she took over? Is the profile of the University (across multiple areas...basketball included since it can generate revenue) higher or lower than when she took over? Have resources been leveraged to execute on a vision and plan?

2) Enrollment, enrollment, enrollment. Students in seats means operating revenue. It means engagement. It means students who become alums and donors (see point 1). It means alums back on campus helping students (see point 1). Is enrollment higher or lower than when she took over.  Covid aside, the numbers above show it was trending lower before last spring. While the tuition reset created a nice temporary rise, retention suffered, and word on the street was they probably admitted some students they shouldn't have to get that temporary bump. Retention has improved, which is good, but enrollment targets have been missed. The decision she took on her own in August absolutely killed enrollment and future applications. 

3) Maintaining and enhancing the Lasallian Catholic profile of the school. Obviously there are no hard metrics for this. Just anecdotal observations. There used to be Mass after the homecoming game.  There wasn't a couple of years ago. It feels like that part of La Salle has gone to the backburner. When I went with my kids to accepted students days at Duquense and Villanova, there was Mass.  At La Salle?  Nada.

[MisterD]

If you want a board release so you can wait and bandwagon Duquesne or another school we’ll give it to you, just ask.

[explorerman]

Mar 30, 2021 15:28:37 GMT -5 calsufan said:

Mar 30, 2021 13:09:29 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

My "personal ax"(e) is that the highest paid and most visible official of the University.,..OUR University...failed her constituents.  Enrollment is at a modern low, layoffs happened, and no plans have been communicated regarding basketball facilities or otherwise, despite money being spent on multiple strategic consultants to create the plans. Granted...the colorful chairs in the quad look nice, so that's a start i guess.

The consensus in earlier pages here was...well, all Universities are facing declining applications and enrollment, so she should get a pass.  Nope....we have are seeing a school in our conference...in our state...a Catholic school...do what they need to do admissions-wise, facility-wise, and donation-wise to grow. We're seeing another one, down the street in our conference, make a major strategic deal to grow enrollment and endowment.

Why does she get a pass on criticism while, under her "leadership", we continue to fall behind our peers? The BoT needs to wake up from their love-fest with her and get someone who can execute.  Hope is not a strategy.

Why are they "possibly" valid points about enrollment?

Sorry, but I don't believe you. I think there's more to it than that but you don't want to fess up what your issue is. I agree it's concerning and I'm not giving her a free pass, but the seemingly almost personal attacks on this, the Covid byline and everything else is a bit much. In your mind the President can do no right. Everyone does some right and everyone does some wrong, you, me, her, everyone. I'm not going to say what I think she did right or what she might have done wrong. It just appears to me that you're always in attack mode with her and I don't think we know the true reason why.

I agree really perverted negative obsession.. I don’t get it.. Don’t get me wrong I am negative as they come if something stinks... But the attacks with blinders on is really something...

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 30, 2021 19:01:02 GMT -5 explorerman said:

Mar 30, 2021 15:28:37 GMT -5 calsufan said:

Sorry, but I don't believe you. I think there's more to it than that but you don't want to fess up what your issue is. I agree it's concerning and I'm not giving her a free pass, but the seemingly almost personal attacks on this, the Covid byline and everything else is a bit much. In your mind the President can do no right. Everyone does some right and everyone does some wrong, you, me, her, everyone. I'm not going to say what I think she did right or what she might have done wrong. It just appears to me that you're always in attack mode with her and I don't think we know the true reason why.

I agree really perverted negative obsession.. I don’t get it.. Don’t get me wrong I am negative as they come if something stinks... But the attacks with blinders on is really something...

Blinders?  Separate the person from the role. Enrollment down, credit rating down, layoffs...should I go on? Explain how that is blinders? She didn't get the job done, and the BoT has a love-fest about her.  Objectively...she didn't move the needle while other Presidents did.