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Post by expatgal on Jun 12, 2019 12:33:13 GMT -5
Hi! I have a 10k gold charm in the shape of a basketball, approx 1/2 inch in diameter. It has a small diamond at center front, with ''World Series 1954' engraved around it. My guess is that someone had it made as a memento of La Salle's win in 1954. Or maybe several were made? Has anyone ever seen anything like it? The charm is beautifully made; I imagine it was very precious to someone at one time. I bought the charm at an auction with a view to resale, but had no idea of the history at that time. I'd still like to sell it, but now I'd like to find a good home for it, preferably with someone affiliated with La Salle, or maybe someone who's familiar with the history. I'd be grateful for any input....With thanks!
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 12, 2019 13:51:08 GMT -5
If it says "World Series 1954" it's probably referring to the baseball World Series I'd imagine?
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Post by sweat83 on Jun 13, 2019 11:38:02 GMT -5
If it says "World Series 1954" it's probably referring to the baseball World Series I'd imagine? If there was ever a time to explain the phrase "connect the dots", this is it.
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Post by coachd on Jun 13, 2019 14:48:22 GMT -5
Baseball, basketball, what's the difference... just a couple extra letters in basketball.
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Post by golasalle on Jun 13, 2019 16:12:08 GMT -5
Hi! I have a 10k gold charm in the shape of a basketball, approx 1/2 inch in diameter. It has a small diamond at center front, with ''World Series 1954' engraved around it. My guess is that someone had it made as a memento of La Salle's win in 1954. Or maybe several were made? Has anyone ever seen anything like it? The charm is beautifully made; I imagine it was very precious to someone at one time. I bought the charm at an auction with a view to resale, but had no idea of the history at that time. I'd still like to sell it, but now I'd like to find a good home for it, preferably with someone affiliated with La Salle, or maybe someone who's familiar with the history. I'd be grateful for any input....With thanks! Any chance you could post a photo?
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Post by glorydays on Jun 14, 2019 6:53:39 GMT -5
It has to be from the 1954 World Series. Even I am too young to remember it. I have seen a couple video recaps. The New York Giants swept the Indians 4-0. It is the World Series where Mays made "the catch".
I guess it could be trivia regarding what was going on when La Salle College won the NCAA title: Ike was President, the Giants won the WS, and Rocky Marciano was the heavyweight champion of the world.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 14, 2019 7:08:35 GMT -5
It has to be from the 1954 World Series. Even I am too young to remember it. I have seen a couple video recaps. The New York Giants swept the Indians 4-0. It is the World Series where Mays made "the catch". I guess it could be trivia regarding what was going on when La Salle College won the NCAA title: Ike was President, the Giants won the WS, and Rocky Marciano was the heavyweight champion of the world. That's why I was kind of interested in it. My Grandfather was a big NY baseball Giants fan, he grew up just across the river in the Bronx, and I've always been fascinated by the history of the Giants pre-move, and especially the Polo Grounds. I actually went about 2 years ago and walked around where the Polo Grounds used to be and took some pictures and stuff.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 14, 2019 11:08:35 GMT -5
If it's truly a basketball image and not baseball, than maybe it represents a FIBA world championship. Just my two cents.
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Post by coachd on Jun 14, 2019 12:27:32 GMT -5
Tom Gola memory...
The 1954 ring described appears to be this one...
And the Philadelphia franchise with the most championships (still!!!) left in 1954... here is why.
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Post by glorydays on Jun 14, 2019 20:57:05 GMT -5
coachd, good stuff on the A's. My father was big A's fan. They moved. He was a big Warriors fan they moved. There is a moral there somewhere.
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Post by coachd on Jun 24, 2019 15:28:21 GMT -5
coachd, good stuff on the A's. My father was big A's fan. They moved. He was a big Warriors fan they moved. There is a moral there somewhere. Yes, the A's moved to Kansas City and didn't win and then moved to Oakland and won 4 more championships in the 1970's long before analytics has destroyed baseball... (analytics fails to take into account 2 other key ingredients - team chemistry and managing the roster so all are involved in defined roles). The Warriors won here before the NBA was formed in 1947 and again in the NBA with Tom Gola in his rookie season (55-56) and then moved to San Fran area... where they mostly sucked. They moved to Oakland and became "Golden State" and won in 1975 and then sucked for decades until some guy named Curry came along and won in 2015, 2017 and 2018. A total of 6 NBA recognized titles. The Sixers have 2 titles (one with Wilt and one with Dr J and Moses). The Phillies have 2 titles (1980 and 2008) The Flyers have 2 titles (Broad Street Bullies) in what is now ancient history in sports. The Eagles have the most titles of the current teams with 4 (3 NFL titles and 1 Super Bowl).
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Post by hykos1045 on Jun 24, 2019 17:36:47 GMT -5
coachd, good stuff on the A's. My father was big A's fan. They moved. He was a big Warriors fan they moved. There is a moral there somewhere. Yes, the A's moved to Kansas City and didn't win and then moved to Oakland and won 4 more championships in the 1970's long before analytics has destroyed baseball... I, against my better judgment, unblocked this post to see if I could follow your logic. Do you purposefully use irony for your cause-effect argument, since the movie Moneyball was about the 2002 Athletics? They were said to be the pioneers of the emerging trends in analytics, and therefore you've linked them with degradation of the sport. It seems your conclusion is that they should have left their brand of baseball alone, for the sake of the game? However, we can see what happens to teams that try that approach. They get left behind. It is up for the commissioner and the owners to sort out which tactics preserve the integrity of the game, versus which ones are eroding it.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 24, 2019 20:22:43 GMT -5
It’s also wrong. They won ‘72-‘74. That’s not 4.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 24, 2019 20:26:27 GMT -5
The actual story on the A’s moving is fascinating by the way. I have a book called “After Many A Summer” that’s about the New York teams moving, but does a whole chapter on the 3 teams that left before them- Braves in ‘53, Browns in ‘54 and A’s in ‘55. Each of those 3 get kind of glossed over as inevitable because they were clearly second banana in their towns, but as usual history is far more complex and interesting. With the A’s, which group of investors got the team ultimately came down to who arrived at the Mack family's Home on that particular day.
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Post by glorydays on Jun 24, 2019 21:22:11 GMT -5
I am a baseball fan. I admit it isn't for everybody.
My favorite dig about baseball came from the late Beano Cook.
After the Commissioner of Baseball Bowie Kuhn offered the returning hostages from the Iran hostage crisis lifetime passes to Major League Baseball games, Cook quipped, "Haven't they suffered enough?"
Classic line.
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Post by coachd on Jun 25, 2019 8:40:29 GMT -5
It’s also wrong. They won ‘72-‘74. That’s not 4. Meant 4 total. 3 in the 70's with Reggie.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 25, 2019 9:13:01 GMT -5
(analytics fails to take into account 2 other key ingredients - team chemistry and managing the roster so all are involved in defined roles) Its also wrong here. Managing the roster ... that's the whole damn point of most of the managers recently hired by highly quantitative teams. Aaron Boone has clubhouse experience and the ability to absorb information; he was picked explicitly because he could be trusted to handle the players on a day to day basis and not screw up by making "gut feel" decisions. (Chemistry is unquantifiable and unpredictable and rightly just hoped into place. You could have the best clubhouse in the world and if two of your pitchers trade families it can be wiped away (or improved?) in a night.)
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Post by coachd on Jun 25, 2019 9:27:19 GMT -5
(analytics fails to take into account 2 other key ingredients - team chemistry and managing the roster so all are involved in defined roles) Its also wrong here. Managing the roster ... that's the whole damn point of most of the managers recently hired by highly quantitative teams. Aaron Boone has clubhouse experience and the ability to absorb information; he was picked explicitly because he could be trusted to handle the players on a day to day basis and not screw up by making "gut feel" decisions. (Chemistry is unquantifiable and unpredictable and rightly just hoped into place. You could have the best clubhouse in the world and if two of your pitchers trade families it can be wiped away (or improved?) in a night.) Aaron Boone? I don't think he was one of the best managers. The most talented team doesn't always win the WS but it certainly helps especially if you have a manager who knows when to rest starters and manage a bullpen. National League game is much more challenging as you have to do double switches. The DH I can never really get used to.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 25, 2019 12:29:56 GMT -5
What do you mean "was"?
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Post by coachd on Jun 25, 2019 12:43:30 GMT -5
wassup... meant "is". Much easier to manage in AL and much easier to manager the Yanks, Red Sox and now the Astros. Yankees can't buy championships but can buy themselves into the post season almost every year.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 25, 2019 12:53:31 GMT -5
Sounds like those three teams must have bought lots of good chemistry.
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