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Post by cpico on Jan 7, 2013 21:44:52 GMT -5
Big game on Wednesday. A game that we should win, but they have to "show up" and play a good game.
I checked out the Charlotte message board. Sometimes you see how little opponent's fans know about the team they are playing. Here's a quote from their board that will make you chuckle:
"LaSalle is kind of like us in that they dont have a traditional PG. They handle it by committee."
I realize we have a number of guards that can handle the ball (and I scratch my head sometimes at why Ramon takes over the point sometimes), but anyone who knows anything about La Salle knows that Duren is a traditional point guard and I am so glad he is in our program.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 7, 2013 21:52:57 GMT -5
i think they are getting us mixed up with St Joes. This may be their achillies heel.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 7, 2013 22:28:33 GMT -5
The Charlotte message board's achilles heal is that they confuse us and St. Joseph's of PA?
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 7, 2013 22:32:34 GMT -5
No St Joes lacks a true point guard. Good # 2's but.....
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Post by mookie on Jan 7, 2013 22:44:21 GMT -5
With all the media coverage we get, how could they not know more about us??
All jokes aside, it's not hard to see why they feel that way based on stats alone. Our true PG doesn't lead the team in assists. Either way, they have a great record to start the season but this is a game LaSalle should win, especially if the team wants to be considered a threat since winning on the road is essential.
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Post by cpico on Jan 7, 2013 22:49:09 GMT -5
With all the media coverage we get, how could they not know more about us?? All jokes aside, it's not hard to see why they feel that way based on stats alone. Our true PG doesn't lead the team in assists. Either way, they have a great record to start the season but this is a game LaSalle should win, especially if the team wants to be considered a threat since winning on the road is essential. Are you implying Tyreek isn't a true point guard? |
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Post by ltrain38 on Jan 7, 2013 23:19:14 GMT -5
Maybe they read the scouting report from 2009?
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 7, 2013 23:22:57 GMT -5
All jokes aside, it's not hard to see why they feel that way based on stats alone. Our true PG doesn't lead the team in assists. Either way, they have a great record to start the season but this is a game LaSalle should win, especially if the team wants to be considered a threat since winning on the road is essential. Good point about stats |
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Post by mookie on Jan 8, 2013 11:01:53 GMT -5
With all the media coverage we get, how could they not know more about us?? All jokes aside, it's not hard to see why they feel that way based on stats alone. Our true PG doesn't lead the team in assists. Either way, they have a great record to start the season but this is a game LaSalle should win, especially if the team wants to be considered a threat since winning on the road is essential. Are you implying Tyreek isn't a true point guard? I said the stats indicate we run a PG by committee and that's probably what they're looking at...the stats and not the film. True PGs in 90% of the cases lead the team in assists so that's an easy stat to look at. Film would show that Duren is a tradition PG and not a scoring PG. Duren gets his points in the flow of the game rather than running isos and creating/calling plays for himself. |
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Post by cpico on Jan 8, 2013 12:46:24 GMT -5
Are you implying Tyreek isn't a true point guard? I said the stats indicate we run a PG by committee and that's probably what they're looking at...the stats and not the film. True PGs in 90% of the cases lead the team in assists so that's an easy stat to look at. Film would show that Duren is a tradition PG and not a scoring PG. Duren gets his points in the flow of the game rather than running isos and creating/calling plays for himself. Ok |
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 8, 2013 12:52:51 GMT -5
Reading their board it is funny how they automatically do not consider us a competent opponent. I read how their frontline will just kill us etc...
Just read the other A-10 boards making predictions about the A-10 season and the bottom teams have a lot of instances where their posters think they will win against La Salle but yet comparable teams like SJU and Dayton are not mentioned. Even though La Salle has proven to be the better team either through head to head recently or against other oppenents, La Salle still has a perception problem with regard to respect from other team's fans. It is better but we still have a lot of work to do.
I really hope we come to play tomorrow night.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jan 8, 2013 13:14:20 GMT -5
we are going to need another 2-3 years of this level of play to be considered a true factor and change perception.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 8, 2013 13:30:46 GMT -5
we are going to need another 2-3 years of this level of play to be considered a true factor and change perception. I am not convinced playing at " this level" is the answer. I think we need to beat notable teams to erase that perception. Just my opinion on that. I guess I might have felt the same way when La Salle was winning 9 games a year as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 13:50:50 GMT -5
When asked to do the predictions of their conference record, thirteen people gave game specific predictions and six of them picked La Salle to beat Charlotte. I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment on their part. ninernation.net/index.php?topic=31216.0 |
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Post by mookie on Jan 8, 2013 14:06:53 GMT -5
Even though La Salle has proven to be the better team either through head to head recently or against other oppenents, La Salle still has a perception problem with regard to respect from other team's fans. Exactly my point as to why LaSalle can't rely on the committee to say "lasalle is a good team and will do well in the tourney" because the perception is still not good. it is also why we cannot pick up players for "depth" purposes when we know they cannot contribute at this level and why it is difficult to sell the program to a recruit who is getting looks/offers from BCS programs. |
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jan 8, 2013 14:47:20 GMT -5
Lots of opportunities to beat "name" teams this season. Knocking off 1 or 2 of Butler, SJU, Temple, Xavier would go a long way towards building credibility.
Hopefully next season's slate offers more opportunity against BCS teams. beating Nova and PSU was good in terms of the opponent's visibility overall, beating Miami would have been nice and it sure looked like they were on their way to doing just that, but bigger picture, that would've only been 1 more win.
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Post by lasallescreamer on Jan 8, 2013 15:45:37 GMT -5
At some point-this year we have to beat Temple. Winning Big 5 would be nice. We beat X last year and need to do it again. The availability of PT can still be a lure at LSU. There must be S. Weingartens out there for depth. We got A. Murray and we need to do that again-u know what I mean. But, in the end, nothing is beter than winning.
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Post by mookie on Jan 9, 2013 8:32:43 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying Screamer. I think we value a "Weingarten" differently and that may be the root of the problem in our discussion as to why we're not even close to seeing eye to eye. I see a player like him to be nothing more than a practice player who shouldn't see the court except in blowouts and Senior Night on a good program.
It would be nice to be get a player with Murray's ability and agility (minus the baggage) out of high school, I just think it's going to be very tough (almost impossible) until we become a team that's in post season play multiple consecutive years with one of those years being in the NCAA. When I say that, I'm referencing the NCAAs this year and then post season play again next year. The program also needs to start knocking off BCS programs ON TV.
However, I think the more likely way of getting a player like that would be via transfer. We both want to see the program get back to being a top tier program in the conference and back in post season play much more regularly.
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Post by vasalos on Jan 9, 2013 8:53:47 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying Screamer. I think we value a "Weingarten" differently and that may be the root of the problem in our discussion as to why we're not even close to seeing eye to eye. I see a player like him to be nothing more than a practice player who shouldn't see the court except in blowouts and Senior Night on a good program. It would be nice to be get a player with Murray's ability and agility (minus the baggage) out of high school, I just think it's going to be very tough (almost impossible) until we become a team that's in post season play multiple consecutive years with one of those years being in the NCAA. When I say that, I'm referencing the NCAAs this year and then post season play again next year. The program also needs to start knocking off BCS programs ON TV. However, I think the more likely way of getting a player like that would be via transfer. We both want to see the program get back to being a top tier program in the conference and back in post season play much more regularly. Great point. The transfer athlete has leveled the playing field in college basketball. We need more transfers like Galloway and Garland in the future to keep up with the better programs. |
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 9, 2013 9:38:27 GMT -5
Speaking of transfers, I forget his name..... but remember we almost got that guy (a big) as a transfer who sounded like a pretty decent get.... but then he got caught diddling his GF in the park.
I wonder how he is doing?
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 9, 2013 9:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 9, 2013 9:49:51 GMT -5
thanks MIK, geez, these look like nice stats |
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