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Post by coachd on Feb 20, 2013 10:02:34 GMT -5
Glockner has us a 10 seed and had this to say in his Bubble Watch: The Explorers keep quietly moving toward an at-large spot, notching another two-win week. They have three very winnable games in between roadies at Temple and Saint Louis. The opportunity is there not only to dance, but to win the regular-season crown. The other contenders have very tough run-ins. We have a much higher standard. Individual banners are reserved for teams that win the championship or are runner-up in either NIT or NCAA. Regular season championships/conference championships all share a banner.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 23, 2013 10:37:14 GMT -5
Saint Louis beating Butler really screws us last night. Looks like we are barely above the "last 4 in" right now
This really sucks because we had a top 25 win with Butler and they are now out of the Top 25 with that loss, they need to win a number of games now which makes it harder for us to get the 1st round bye as well.
The light is getting dimmer after being so bright on Monday. Unfortunately we may have to win out to get in the dance and that's pretty much impossible
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Post by mikesmd77 on Feb 23, 2013 11:02:08 GMT -5
I don't think Butler will drop out of the top 25, and St. Louis may very well be moving into the top 25. I know there's a lot of pessimism regarding the SLU game, but if they're ranked it presents a chance to stamp our ticket with that road win. We can beat SLU just like we can beat anyone in the A10... These teams all play each other coming up and will beat each other up while we just need to handle our business vs teams we should beat and have a chance to stamp it with SLU. Take a deep breath.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 23, 2013 11:14:14 GMT -5
I watched the Butler - St. Louis game and I was very impressed with St. Louis. They are a very physical and very physically big team. Jordair Jett is a tank and we will be hard pressed to keep him from penetrating. Mitchell's a player as well. Their bigs will cause problems for our bigs. This will be a tough, tough game to win at St. Louis.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 23, 2013 11:26:25 GMT -5
Lunardi's latest update has La Salle #11 seed playing #6 UNLV at WELLS FARGO CENTER. Holy crap. Imagine if that really happened? Syracuse is #2 seed.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 23, 2013 12:41:41 GMT -5
Saint Louis beating Butler really screws us last night. Looks like we are barely above the "last 4 in" right now This really sucks because we had a top 25 win with Butler and they are now out of the Top 25 with that loss, they need to win a number of games now which makes it harder for us to get the 1st round bye as well. The light is getting dimmer after being so bright on Monday. Unfortunately we may have to win out to get in the dance and that's pretty much impossible Complete over reaction.. 1) They do not count Top 25 record, they count top 50 record 2) St Louis is moving into top 25 now and Butler isn't leaving 3) I would argue this is better, while this pretty much reduces our chances of a conference championship to 1%, it puts us in a better place to get a bye and higher seed like a #2 seed. As we have the tie breaker with either Butler or VCU. We do our job and go 3-1 and will likely be the #2 seed with a better good quarterfinal matchup.
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 23, 2013 12:55:34 GMT -5
And a win at St. Louis now is GIGANTIC.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 23, 2013 15:08:42 GMT -5
Winning out more or less guarantees a bid for us-losing at SLU doesn't mean we don't go- for right now they just need to win at URI
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 23, 2013 15:19:14 GMT -5
Thinking more about it, I think we have to win at SLU- no matter what happens VCU, SLU and BUT are locks at this point. We are battling Xavier and Temple for the 4th A10 bid and lost to both of them. Temple owns a win over SLU and Xavier is about to beat VCU - sure we beat VCU also but the Xavier win over us hurts out case.
If we don't win at SLU 2 tourney wins may be required. I don't think the A10 is getting 5 bids, unless the SEC only gets 2
Hate to say it, but I think we are cooked
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 23, 2013 15:27:51 GMT -5
Thinking more about it, I think we have to win at SLU- no matter what happens VCU, SLU and BUT are locks at this point. We are battling Xavier and Temple for the 4th A10 bid and lost to both of them. Temple owns a win over SLU and Xavier is about to beat VCU - sure we beat VCU also but the Xavier win over us hurts out case. If we don't win at SLU 2 tourney wins may be required. I don't think the A10 is getting 5 bids, unless the SEC only gets 2 Hate to say it, but I think we are cooked I don't buy that. The SEC will probably get about three bids, any more would be terrible on the part of the committee. But the Missouri Valley should be down to two bids. Xavier still has way too much work to do and too many tough games. No A-10 team with 12 losses will ever get an at-large bid and they've got ten already, with games against SLU, Butler and Memphis still coming up. Plus they haven't put away VCU by any stretch yet. I think the A-10 can get five teams, but we'd better not let anyone who's out take the automatic bid, because we're fighting with Temple and Charlotte for bids 4-5.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 23, 2013 15:28:49 GMT -5
Thinking more about it, I think we have to win at SLU- no matter what happens VCU, SLU and BUT are locks at this point. We are battling Xavier and Temple for the 4th A10 bid and lost to both of them. Temple owns a win over SLU and Xavier is about to beat VCU - sure we beat VCU also but the Xavier win over us hurts out case. If we don't win at SLU 2 tourney wins may be required. I don't think the A10 is getting 5 bids, unless the SEC only gets 2 Hate to say it, but I think we are cooked Huh? Can I have what he is having? When has conference affiliation been limited to whether a team gets into the tourney or not? Each team has their own individual cases... I believe the A-10 will get 5 that is because 5 teams warrant admission right now.. Unless some of the bubble teams start to win high quality games, we control our fate. Fortunately, a lot of those teams are losing every couple games.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 23, 2013 15:31:05 GMT -5
Conference affiliation isn't the deciding factor, by the way. I was thinking of specific teams but it breaks down in my head by conference. So when I said "2 for the MVC," I meant that Indiana State is out.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 23, 2013 15:44:42 GMT -5
I guess my point is, it's probably more important that Temple and Xavier lose behind us because they have more opportunities for big wins down the stretch than we do.
I was over reacting to VCU struggling at Xavier- I'm good at over reacting when I really care
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Post by explorerman on Feb 23, 2013 16:10:02 GMT -5
I guess my point is, it's probably more important that Temple and Xavier lose behind us because they have more opportunities for big wins down the stretch than we do. I was over reacting to VCU struggling at Xavier- I'm good at over reacting when I really care Yeah I was going to say... Hopefully G is watching and learning... Learning what a full court trap can do... Man for man.. Our guards overall are better than VCU's guards and anticipate just as good.. Highlighted by the fact that Duren and Galloway are on the conference leaders list in steals... Could you imagine how many turnovers and points, we would generate if pressed with our stable of athletic guards.... Sadly he doesn't...
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Post by explorerman on Feb 23, 2013 16:30:22 GMT -5
VCU won... amazing come back..
"Havoc" press and some urgency are a good recipe for a comeback...
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 23, 2013 16:33:44 GMT -5
My over reaction to anything with La Salle hoops is legendary, just ask my wife.
Fortunately, as I've gotten older I've been better at seeing the bigger picture. Being so, so close to finally feeling like I'm being rewarded for years of support of awful teams, however, makes every little thing feel so magnified that I've reverted to some poor habits the last few days.
A win tomorrow should put me back on track
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Post by explorerguy on Feb 23, 2013 17:19:16 GMT -5
It didn't work against us genius!
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 23, 2013 17:27:12 GMT -5
Speaking of URI, any watch parties or the like anyone know about?
I'm probably headed to the Ugly Moose. I saw us beat VCU there so it feels like good vibes.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 24, 2013 0:34:46 GMT -5
It didn't work against us genius! What toolkit?
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 24, 2013 1:06:54 GMT -5
Seriously- I'm sorry.
I get really overworked about la salle hoops. I said elsewhere that my wife and I had serious discussions bout our marriage a number of years ago about 1- the number of games I went to, 2- my attitude after we would lose, which at the time, losses were WAY more often than they are now.
I don't mean to sound like a martyr, but for a long time I think I was the only poster and fan from the era of 1996 to 2004 and to support a team through its darkest times and Iean as someone who NEVER saw success and was on board with the idea that La Salle athletics was and could be great- when it seems like that's in jeopardy I get crazy. And then I make stupid statements.
This run means more to me than I think anyone can appreciate.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 24, 2013 1:07:45 GMT -5
Oh, and I am HAMMERED drunk right now
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Post by lasallescreamer on Feb 24, 2013 2:37:18 GMT -5
I do understand luhoopsfan. I love the school and the team and have been cheering for 37 years. My wife thinks I am nuts. I sing the Fight Song at least 3 times /day. 2 years ago, I had back surgery; coming out of it, I apparently insisted that surgeon and nurses join me FIGHT SONG.They were going to take me to psy untit until Marie assured them that it was normal for me. I understand!
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Post by explorer128 on Feb 24, 2013 8:33:21 GMT -5
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Post by lasallerules1978 on Feb 24, 2013 9:53:15 GMT -5
Why because a select group of media members put us behind temple and nova? Not sure what that has to do with the committee. By the way if nova keeps doing their thing and we don't beat St. Louis or have a bad loss they will deserve to pass us.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 24, 2013 10:02:10 GMT -5
The committee values road wins even more than the RPI - we have a lot of road wins and a chance for another one today. SLU could potentially have locked up first place by the time we play them, trouble with that game is that it will be their senior day, which is almost impossible to win. However, right now that becomes a NCAA clincher if we win... Shoot, URI won there!
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 24, 2013 10:09:35 GMT -5
The reason Nova has been doing their thing is simple, THE BIG EAST is SO overrated it is a joke. MarQ. looked pathetic last night. As far as Temple goes they are up and down but when all is said and done they are ONE and DONE just like always. Still would rather go to NIT and win two or three games than be One and Done like the Owls.
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Post by ltrain38 on Feb 24, 2013 10:41:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I've watched a number of Marquette games this year. I remember seeing them play Seton Hall a few weeks ago and all I could think is, "This team wouldn't get near the top of the A10." The Big East hasn't done very well against the A10 this year, but they schedule so many cupcakes early that they build up big win totals and inflate the conference RPI.
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Post by big5explorer on Feb 24, 2013 17:20:18 GMT -5
The reason Nova has been doing their thing is simple, THE BIG EAST is SO overrated it is a joke. MarQ. looked pathetic last night. As far as Temple goes they are up and down but when all is said and done they are ONE and DONE just like always. Still would rather go to NIT and win two or three games than be One and Done like the Owls. Quick, without googling it, who won the NIT last year? This team needs an NCAA tourney bid more than almost any team in the country. It's been too long. I'd rather pull off a major upset in round one of the NCAA and be water cooler talk the next morning, than win the NIT - where no one really watches the final game but the two schools involved and rabid hoops fans.
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Post by lwc4591 on Feb 24, 2013 17:48:48 GMT -5
Well if we just win our next two games odds favor us getting a bye in first round of A10 T even if we lose to St. L. Looks like St. Louis , VCU, La Salle and Temple finish top four although Butler will have a say they have a difficult road ahead. We looked bad today but maybe the team just needs a rest.
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Post by vasalos on Feb 24, 2013 18:05:17 GMT -5
Lets win the next two then prepare the Gola arena for the espn cameras on selection sunday. I hope Espn contacta La Salle to do the live bid announcement with our players. Magic # is 2.
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