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Post by explorer88 on Jun 30, 2014 11:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by calsufan on Jun 30, 2014 11:55:39 GMT -5
The announcement said he signed a financial aid agreement. Is that another way to say scholarship these days? Is he definitely out next year or will he be eligible to play? The announcement made no mention of that.
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Post by ck on Jun 30, 2014 12:01:22 GMT -5
My impression is he can play this year. Could the "financial aid agreement" be a
way of his getting aid other than scholarship? Perhaps as a foreign national?
if so, seems almost like a dodge around scholarship limits. I'm just speculating.
He does seem to have some talent, and as a 19 or 20 year old when he starts
playing could be of immediate help, which would certainly be needed 2015-2016.
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Post by calidelphia on Jun 30, 2014 13:11:21 GMT -5
Very exciting. He seems like a bright kid.
G mentions this addition as critical to the future of the program with Steve and Jerrel leaving. Interesting to note since Washington and Jermaine Davis will both have another year under their belt before taking over. Is he inferring that they aren't ready?
I would like to see a red shirt If G sees him as part of the future front court to give us an extra year with the new guards. Give him a year to get used to the states and learn the system, which may be completely different than even we are used to at this point.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 30, 2014 13:26:15 GMT -5
I noticed that, but i think what he's saying is that we're losing two very big contributors in the frontcourt and in order to keep the program heading in the right direction we need to see the frontcourt continue to be a valuable piece of the team. no one player can replace both of them and I think all he's saying is that it's going to take a lot to replace that duo and this kid is a nice piece of that equation, but i don't read it as a knock on Washington or Davis.
It would be fantastic if this kid could come in and play 10-12 mins a night this season. No way he's going to be intimidated by the NCAA game after playing on the International circuit for so long.
Price, Roberts, Stukes, Wright, Sakhniuk (who needs a nickname ASAP) would be a pretty sweet combo I think
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Post by blueandgold on Jun 30, 2014 14:12:08 GMT -5
I noticed that, but i think what he's saying is that we're losing two very big contributors in the frontcourt and in order to keep the program heading in the right direction we need to see the frontcourt continue to be a valuable piece of the team. no one player can replace both of them and I think all he's saying is that it's going to take a lot to replace that duo and this kid is a nice piece of that equation, but i don't read it as a knock on Washington or Davis. It would be fantastic if this kid could come in and play 10-12 mins a night this season. No way he's going to be intimidated by the NCAA game after playing on the International circuit for so long. Price, Roberts, Stukes, Wright, Sakhniuk (who needs a nickname ASAP) would be a pretty sweet combo I think "The Y-Factor"? |
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Post by ck on Jun 30, 2014 14:24:14 GMT -5
Well definitely not "Sucky".
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Post by 23won on Jul 1, 2014 8:50:09 GMT -5
I would play this guy immediately and if he proves his worth (as he sounds capable of), I would ramp up the minutes as the season progresses.
We lacked a player this size last year and teams killed us. Our current lineup still has a gap here. He should be able to defend the perimeter, rebound inside (at 225 pounds) and step out to shoot and stretch defenses. That would really open things up for us.
I am not troubled by burning a year of eligibilty. If he can be a big plus to Wright and Zack and that gets us into the NCAA or an extra win, the return (from a financial and visibility standpoint) will be huge. Plus he has at least two years eligibility after that.
I also think the Euro pipeline should be tapped and expanded. St Mary's has had huge success tapping Australia. Europe is a short flight for many kids to Philly. GW has elevated its program with key imports. We should continue to counter with top talent abroad when the best HS kids in your local market keep picking Syracuse, Big East, Big 10 and ACC teams over La Salle.
IMO, the extra draw for these kids for going to a La Salle are (1) getting pre-NBA exposure in the great A10, (2) English immersion and the cultural benefits of being in a top US city (as compared to Ames, Iowa, Syracuse, NY or Madison, WI) and (3) the incredible depth of a student academic assistance program at La Salle that is superior to the BCS mills that still fail to educate/graduate with the numbers that LaSalle succeeds at. You'd think we'd be able to sell the Y factor success in the Ukraine, attract off the La Salle/Ramon brand in France, and with G's name alone get some kids out of Italy. Come on G, I know you can sell it!
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Post by lasallescreamer on Jul 1, 2014 8:52:16 GMT -5
23won is spot on. His advice should be followed.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 1, 2014 9:40:53 GMT -5
Madison WI is an unexpectedly pretty wonderful city.
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Post by 23won on Jul 1, 2014 10:24:20 GMT -5
Of course. But being on a lake has its drawbacks versus what a cultural/major US city can offer standpoint. Gotta sell with your plusses D, and not diverge to what you don't have. Plus Europeans are used to fine cheese, not the middle of the road cheesehead cheese. :-) Philly has Di Bruno Bros, Claudios, 9th Street Market. WI has cheeseheads and brats. No comparison!
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 1, 2014 10:34:34 GMT -5
I hear ya 23won!
If he can play and is a valuable player off the bench than he should play. It sounds as though he is a strong player that fills a needed void but I am not sure if he is qualified. I also think the same goes for Shuler. I don't want anybody to sit if they can be an asset especially after last year. Having Amar last year probably would have been beneficial to this team seeing how much we struggled with our guard play. However, I still don't know how good Amar actually is.
Also in terms of nicknames. I would go with "nuke" if thats at all how you pronounce the end of his last name Sakhniuk
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jul 29, 2014 7:31:45 GMT -5
I would play this guy immediately and if he proves his worth (as he sounds capable of), I would ramp up the minutes as the season progresses. We lacked a player this size last year and teams killed us. Our current lineup still has a gap here. He should be able to defend the perimeter, rebound inside (at 225 pounds) and step out to shoot and stretch defenses. That would really open things up for us. I am not troubled by burning a year of eligibilty. If he can be a big plus to Wright and Zack and that gets us into the NCAA or an extra win, the return (from a financial and visibility standpoint) will be huge. Plus he has at least two years eligibility after that. I also think the Euro pipeline should be tapped and expanded. St Mary's has had huge success tapping Australia. Europe is a short flight for many kids to Philly. GW has elevated its program with key imports. We should continue to counter with top talent abroad when the best HS kids in your local market keep picking Syracuse, Big East, Big 10 and ACC teams over La Salle. IMO, the extra draw for these kids for going to a La Salle are (1) getting pre-NBA exposure in the great A10, (2) English immersion and the cultural benefits of being in a top US city (as compared to Ames, Iowa, Syracuse, NY or Madison, WI) and (3) the incredible depth of a student academic assistance program at La Salle that is superior to the BCS mills that still fail to educate/graduate with the numbers that LaSalle succeeds at. You'd think we'd be able to sell the Y factor success in the Ukraine, attract off the La Salle/Ramon brand in France, and with G's name alone get some kids out of Italy. Come on G, I know you can sell it! Anxiously awaiting to hear of the status of Yevgen. Agree this years team could benefit significantly from his stepping in right away. Sounds like he brings some nice ingredients the team lacks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 10:13:35 GMT -5
Back in June when Yevgen first committed, I posted this on another thread: He's a 2014 recruit but will most likely not play this season. I was told the NCAA will probably make him sit out this year since he played in a semi-pro Czech Republic league this past season and may only get 3 years of eligibility. I was also told his game is similar to Halil Kanecevic's. Another poster informed me last week that he recently spoke with someone close to the program who said that what I was told in June will most likely still be the case. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 29, 2014 11:17:27 GMT -5
Back in June when Yevgen first committed, I posted this on another thread: He's a 2014 recruit but will most likely not play this season. I was told the NCAA will probably make him sit out this year since he played in a semi-pro Czech Republic league this past season and may only get 3 years of eligibility. I was also told his game is similar to Halil Kanecevic's. Another poster informed me last week that he recently spoke with someone close to the program who said that what I was told in June will most likely still be the case. Alex Len of Maryland who now plays for the Suns now committed in August of 2011 and played the upcoming season. He from the same U18 Ukraine team. It seems Len didn't play for the Ukraine team the same year as his commitment which might be perhaps he was eligible immediately. weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/recruiting/2011/08/terps_olexiy_len.html |
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Post by MisterD on Jul 29, 2014 12:11:08 GMT -5
Also, Maryland was ACC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:11:13 GMT -5
Back in June when Yevgen first committed, I posted this on another thread: Another poster informed me last week that he recently spoke with someone close to the program who said that what I was told in June will most likely still be the case. Alex Len of Maryland who now plays for the Suns now committed in August of 2011 and played the upcoming season. He from the same U18 Ukraine team. It seems Len didn't play for the Ukraine team the same year as his commitment which might be perhaps he was eligible immediately. weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/recruiting/2011/08/terps_olexiy_len.htmlPlaying for a national team has no impact on eligibility and amateur status. The issue is that in addition to playing for various Urkraine national teams, Yevgen also played in a Czech Republic league against professional players. A number of Euro import players have had to sit out all or parts of seasons because of this. www.athleticscholarships.net/amateurforeign.htm |
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Post by jellybean on Jul 29, 2014 13:41:09 GMT -5
He will not play this season from what I was told.
Also personally I don't like the nickname "nuke".
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Post by a10champion15 on Aug 23, 2014 10:43:08 GMT -5
I noticed that la salle instagramed a picture of both him and Shuler.
I am curious to hear what exactly he is according to either being eligible, redshirting or a non qualifier. Not sure what exactly the rule is.
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Post by hideaway on Sept 21, 2014 5:50:20 GMT -5
He is eligible. He lost a year of eligibility from the NCAA. He could play this year (for example if one of the big men got hurt, etc). Otherwise the plan is not to have him burn a year of eligibility. He can use the year to adapt to school, the country, and of course improve. THis way he can step right in after the senior bigs graduate.
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Post by explorerman on Sept 21, 2014 17:11:06 GMT -5
Ok to bring this to bed.. This thread is feisty... Hideaway is correct...
Yevgen is eligible to play this year... The plan was to redshirt.. Howeverrr... He is playing so well that he is making this decision very very difficult...
Sound familiar?
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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 21, 2014 18:01:05 GMT -5
Ok to bring this to bed.. This thread is feisty... Hideaway is correct... Yevgen is eligible to play this year... The plan was to redshirt.. Howeverrr... He is playing so well that he is making this decision very very difficult... Sound familiar? It didn't matter who was right or who was wrong. After last season I tend to think redshirting Shuler and Sahkniuk is not in the best interest of the team. Having the best roster available is not only how I feel but I would bet how everyone feels on this board. My optimism for this team is really beginning to grow more and more. Josh tweeted about Tony Washington. One of the first things I heard about him recently "La Salle R-Fr. Tony Washington having a good practice. 6-10 big man had a greyshirt last year. Put on some muscle, that much is clear." |
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Post by MisterD on Sept 21, 2014 18:24:36 GMT -5
Yup. With some serious graduation losses coming I want everyone in for the season, even if you burn a player year or two with non-peak usage.
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Post by lasallescreamer on Sept 21, 2014 22:31:00 GMT -5
I understand that Coach is very intelligent and that he has the best interest of program at heart. However, sometime, truly bright people tend to overthink(happens to me sometimes!)This is so simple.The current players deserve best chance of winning this year. The fans deserve the chance to support the best possible team that we can put on floor. If we win-maybe win big, we have a better chance of recruiting better players. We have seen that. If we win, we get more media attention. We have a better chance of winning with Yevgen. Thus, Yevgen should not redshirt.Its not complicated.
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Post by coqui900 on Sept 21, 2014 23:17:40 GMT -5
Another thing to consider: Yevgen already has ties to a pro team. A need for his old team (or another pro club for his skill level) could get an opening and make an offer. That happens pretty regularly with Euro recruits.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Sept 22, 2014 8:37:36 GMT -5
Tomorrow is no guarantee for anyone. Give the program the best possible chance to win today and deal with the future later.
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Post by explorerman on Sept 22, 2014 12:59:52 GMT -5
This year's team is better than last year's team.. Keep in mind that the "scout" team would consistently beat the first team in practice.. This isn't private knowledge as this has been mentioned here numerous times.
The upgrade in talent is absolutely noticeable even to the amateur eye. I am not saying that this will result in wins but logically I would like to think it does set us up well.
I am with a lot of posters on here if the "probable red shirts" are suprising with rapid development then you owe to everyone to play them.
It is no secret my biggest fear and I believe weak link will be the PG spot specifically the offensive arsenal out of that spot. You saw what happens in a spread offense if a player can't shoot, the defenses really do not need extend coverage which affects everyone else. If Stukes did not improve his shot significantly then we have a Garland/Lewis type guard that can impair an offensive geared around penetration and shot making with the occasional post to keep teams honest..
I know Shuler has an above average shot if left open, I have seen it first hand.. If Stukes and Lewis are making a mess of it and it costs us 4-8 points per game and Shuler is in street clothes you are going to have a lot of angry fans looking right at G..
We all know how much 4-8 pts per game can do to a team's record..
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Post by scarletexplorer on Sept 22, 2014 13:08:15 GMT -5
I'd prefer the all hands on deck approach.
Two or three (or more) extra wins that come with a deep, talented squad will make much more of a difference on the recruiting trail, especially if those wins translate into a postseason game. I'd rather be showing recruits that the team is becoming a legit postseason contender year in and year out, not that the team is a postseason contender once every two or three years because they're waiting on redshirts.
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Post by MisterD on Sept 22, 2014 13:20:34 GMT -5
So for the second time ever (first being "I'm glad we made the tournament"), everyone here is on the same page. This can't possibly work out.
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Post by coqui900 on Sept 22, 2014 14:00:48 GMT -5
So, if we don't redshirt anyone, our roster would be:
Zack
Wright
DJ
Washington
Yevgen
Rohan
Jermaine
Stukes
Johnnie
Cleon
Price
Khalid
That's 12 players to put into a 40-minute game. Jermaine probably only sort of counts on that, and we have no idea what Tony Washington might turn out to be, but that's still a lot of minutes to figure out.
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