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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 20:55:15 GMT -5
I do not understand how in his press conference, G kept saying it came down to one play in the manhattan, VCU and todays St Louis game. I didnt see the manhattan game but it was MULTiPLE Plays of the same play vs vcu and SLU The opposing teams guard driving down the lane every single time! Lewis should have been in there. He is our best on the ball defender! It would have also been nice if someone laid a hard foul on Jett to send a message. Not a technical but just enough of a hard foul to have him second guess driving down the lane every time
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Feb 8, 2014 21:01:26 GMT -5
YEP. And we had no on in foul trouble.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 8, 2014 21:28:10 GMT -5
I do not understand how in his press conference, G kept saying it came down to one play in the manhattan, VCU and todays St Louis game. I didnt see the manhattan game but it was MULTiPLE Plays of the same play vs vcu and SLU The opposing teams guard driving down the lane every single time! Lewis should have been in there. He is our best on the ball defender! It would have also been nice if someone laid a hard foul on Jett to send a message. Not a technical but just enough of a hard foul to have him second guess driving down the lane every time For reference: |
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Feb 8, 2014 21:47:35 GMT -5
Thanks much, Joe.
(although I disagree with G's remarks about denying guys shots. You don't have to aggressively deny Sam or DJ because they won't take 'em anyway).
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 8, 2014 21:49:51 GMT -5
I asked the question about the other guys. It wasn't so much about why they aren't getting shots, but more about why they aren't taking shots.
I mentioned it in my gamer. Five guys (Mills, Garland, Peterson, Brown, and Lewis) finished with 13 points in 93 minutes.
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Post by lasallerules1978 on Feb 8, 2014 22:04:47 GMT -5
I like when Brown pulls up for three. He is going to hit one eventually.
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 8, 2014 22:58:40 GMT -5
I like when Brown pulls up for three. He is going to hit one eventually. Rohan has brought much more than I expected this season but he's quickly entering the "Mike St. John zone" where everytime he raises his arms to put up the 3 the collective fan base groan occurs before he even releases. |
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Post by jellybean on Feb 9, 2014 10:24:18 GMT -5
When you see Rohan and Steve talking 15 footers you know you have an offensive system problem. Thank God Jerrell realizes his limitations. Can you imagine what Aaric Murray would be doing in this offense? Wait a minute...been there and done that.
Still can't get the "one play" comment out of my mind. Wondering if it was the high screen for Jett? That was one play they ran to the left about ten times it seems. Maybe it was the pick and roll they ran another ten times? Maybe it was the matchup with Rohan where they lobbed the ball over him. SLU saw that matchup and couldn't wait to take advantage of that twice. Both in a sequence where G didn't call time out.
Finally, wish G didn't wave the players to the locker room instead of them doing their customary thanking the students for their support. I thought he sent a poor message. Looking at G after the game, it might have done him a lot of good to take a few moments by himself before addressing the team. I personally thought the student section was strong and into the game. Great job students.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 13:01:28 GMT -5
The one play is with regard to the scoreboard. There being several disappointing plays merely adds to the frustration.
On the positive note, Tyreek's halftime buzzer beater was a great out of bounds play, and we did better with 3.8 seconds than we usually do in the final set of a half when we have the ball for 35 seconds and have to eat clock just to keep the other team from scoring. It is a shame we could not replicate this move in the final 3 seconds of the game when we really needed to score.
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Post by gymrat67 on Feb 9, 2014 13:12:11 GMT -5
I do not understand how in his press conference, G kept saying it came down to one play in the manhattan, VCU and todays St Louis game. I didnt see the manhattan game but it was MULTiPLE Plays of the same play vs vcu and SLU The opposing teams guard driving down the lane every single time! Lewis should have been in there. He is our best on the ball defender! It would have also been nice if someone laid a hard foul on Jett to send a message. Not a technical but just enough of a hard foul to have him second guess driving down the lane every time Pick One : " ( George Beamon, Juvonte Reddic / Treveon Graham, Chaz Williams, Jordair Jett ) 's strength, mental toughness and physicallity are at the highest level in college basketball. " |
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Post by fvp47 on Feb 9, 2014 13:46:40 GMT -5
I do not understand the posters on this issue who do not seem to understand the point about "one play". Of course there were multiple play; unforced turnovers, missed free throw at the front end of a one and one, missed offensive rebound, etc. The point is that any one play play goes in the direction in any of these three games and we are 15-8 not 12-11.
One key play is when Sam called a time out, when the possession arrow was in the favor of LaSalle. This was the last time our which would have given us the opportunity to set a play with 3.8 seconds left. In his defense he was trying to maintain possession at a critical point in time and there was no way to know there would be a jump ball call.
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Post by golasalle on Feb 9, 2014 13:51:58 GMT -5
I do not understand the posters on this issue who do not seem to understand the point about "one play". Of course there were multiple play; unforced turnovers, missed free throw at the front end of a one and one, missed offensive rebound, etc. The point is that any one play play goes in the direction in any of these three games and we are 15-8 not 12-11. One key play is when Sam called a time out, when the possession arrow was in the favor of LaSalle. This was the last time our which would have given us the opportunity to set a play with 3.8 seconds left. In his defense he was trying to maintain possession at a critical point in time and there was no way to know there would be a jump ball call. Bingo! Many are being way too literal about the "one play" being the last play of the game. His point is that in close games like he listed, a single play can be the difference between winning or losing. As fvp points out, that "one play" could be any number of tossup plays that didn't go our way. Last year, many of those tossups did go our way. |
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Post by talkinbball on Feb 9, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -5
It's not one play but making it seem that way takes G off the hook for such things as his illogical or untimely momentum stopping substitutions, such as having Brown and Lewis on the floor at the same time so it's 5 on 3 on the offensive end and Wright (yesterday in particular) or someone else making back to back solid plays and immediately being taken out of the game. The surest way to get substituted for on this team is to make two good plays in a row. With the lack of production that can be expected from the bench, and the resulting lack of overall offensive flow, it makes no sense to continue to make the number of substitutions that are constantly being made. I think more of the close losses this year are the result of some questionable coaching than "one play".
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Post by jellybean on Feb 9, 2014 14:41:33 GMT -5
The one play is with regard to the scoreboard. There being several disappointing plays merely adds to the frustration. On the positive note, Tyreek's halftime buzzer beater was a great out of bounds play, and we did better with 3.8 seconds than we usually do in the final set of a half when we have the ball for 35 seconds and have to eat clock just to keep the other team from scoring. It is a shame we could not replicate this move in the final 3 seconds of the game when we really needed to score. Hykos, I understand the comment about the scoreboard. |
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Feb 9, 2014 15:14:39 GMT -5
At the risk of substituting myself for the originator of this thread, I think we've all misconstrued La Salle2001's point.
i thought his point was that it was not one single play, but a REPEATED play - Jordaire Jett driving to his left to the hoop over and over and over was not stopped. That no changes were made to address it.
Meaning that how can we expect to win when we allow Jett to successfully repeat the same drive to the hoop right up to the winning basket.
If I've misinterpreted, I apologize for speaking for the original poster.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 9, 2014 15:22:55 GMT -5
Like or not, Giannini in-game coaching ability has been exposed again this year where maybe he was getting lucky and winning games due to Galloway and a much improved offense.
Too many bad decisions in the game last night that frankly I was too sad to even bother to post.
I will post in the "defending Garland post" which sadly is greatly misguided. Garland is at fault for bad basketball decisions, basic basketball decisions. Giannini is at fault for allowing Garland to repeatedly make those mistakes and putting him in a position to not be successful.
As a coach that I respected greatly as a youth as told me: I will never yell at you for your execution of a play. Execution ultimately comes down to ability, which takes time to improve. But I will yell at you because of your thought process, decision making and mental mistakes. Those are easily correctable, immediate and have nothing to do with ability. If I have told you why you are supposed to make a different decision and you repeat the bad decision time and time again, then you are choosing not to listen. Not choosing to listen is not acceptable at any level.
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Post by heftyexpl on Feb 9, 2014 15:28:47 GMT -5
"That's on all of us" - G
About a minute and a half in. Also included in the goexplorers video.
Probably the first time G has openly taken responsibility for a loss. Usually always put the blame on the players and never mentions how the coaching failed. Or what he could have done better.
Just thought it was interesting. Think he really cares about these players and obviously is sharing in their pain.
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